http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6254138Oh my. Down memory lane we go.
denem (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-08-09 02:24 PM
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A quote from a German friend I will never forget, on Nazism.
(1986 - in Germany, as best I can remember)
'OH how we laughed at the Nazis. Very funny - Ha Ha Ha. But the minute your back, they come bubbling out of the drains like cockroaches, scuttling along the streets, in our buildings, waiving feelers to all.'
And how we've laughed at the birthers, the teabaggers, the Palins the Bachmanns. How could anyone be so stupid? Indeed, The brownshirts are with us, and it's not a laughing matter. Solidarity may be a over used word, but as ever, it's needed now.
Oh, I dunno.
franksolich is rather fond of the comment of the British statesman David Lloyd George, about the Irish, but it's more suitable for the primitives on Skins's island; the primitives have no sense of humor, which is why we laugh at them so much.
The Rita Hayworth primitive, who remembers the 1930s:
Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-08-09 02:34 PM
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1. I ain't laughing - there were some chuckles - really, "Teabagging"? - but, for the most part, these events, these people, scare me.
They're dangerous. Someone is going to get hurt, or killed, and that's what scares me - that it will just be the beginning.
Your friend knew, your friend was right, and thank you for this reminder.
The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-08-09 02:37 PM
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2. Divide and conqueor
That's what I've been saying. We need to start taking their attacks seriously. The first thing we do is to stop dismissing their skewed logic. In their attacks, there will be some truth to what they're saying, but the rest will be misinformation. We need to honestly review and dissect what they're saying, acknowledge whatever is truthful, and expose the rest as misinformation.
The racist babbling sister primitive, who thinks "darky" and "pickaninny" toys are "cute":
babylonsister (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-08-09 02:37 PM
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3. Not funny in the slightest.
http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2009/08/fascist-america-ar...
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What is fascism?
The word has been bandied about by so many people so wrongly for so long that, as Paxton points out, "Everybody is somebody else's fascist." Given that, I always like to start these conversations by revisiting Paxton's essential definition of the term:
"Fascism is a system of political authority and social order intended to reinforce the unity, energy, and purity of communities in which liberal democracy stands accused of producing division and decline."
Elsewhere, he refines this further as
"a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion."
Oh my. That's a dandy description of the primitives, and of Skins's island.
mkultra (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-08-09 02:40 PM
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4. Some of understand that its time to pull together
Petty bullshit arguing is for children.
Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-08-09 02:40 PM
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5. I've said it before, I'll say it again: Nazis, Fascists, Communists, Revolutions of all stripes...
...in the modern era, they've only succeeded because they had a large and dissatisfied youth contingent who were willing to do their grunt work and propaganda.
These groups do not have this. People under the age of 35 overwhelmingly find this stuff to be transparent, counterproductive, uninformed, etc.
The Middle Aged and Elderly are not going to bring around the Fourth Reich. What I AM worried about, however, is the same people snapping in isolation and going postal on innocent people...
tranche (173 posts) Sat Aug-08-09 03:52 PM
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13. Yes
This is the way I read the situation.
Libertas1776 (427 posts) Sat Aug-08-09 02:40 PM
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6. I am not usually the biggest fan of the 2nd amendment, but frankly, I don't want to live in a country where the only gun owners are people like the Palins and the Bachmanns and their brownshirt cohorts. These people truly do frighten me. Solidarity is a great and good thing for our side against these fascist nazi wannabes, but it is usually these fascists that are more likely to be armed.
Turbineguy (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-08-09 02:41 PM
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7. Hitler had plenty of help.
drmeow (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-08-09 02:58 PM
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10. I have never been laughing except at the name teabaggers. I've been scared of the right wing for at least 20 years. I'm not laughing, I'm enraged.
varelse (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-08-09 03:25 PM
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11. They're not funny and we have no excuse for pretending that they are just clowns. Anyone who has had even a high school history class should know better.
madamesilverspurs (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-08-09 03:45 PM
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12. A couple of years ago
I related a conversation I had with an elderly friend. When she was seventeen she and her family barely got out of Germany in time. She told me that watching George W. Bush was "like watching Hitler come up all over again." With tears in her eyes she followed that up with "Where can I go now to be safe?" Although she supported Obama and contributed to his campaign she became increasing reclusive until Obama was inaugurated. She had been genuinely terrified that something would be done to him before he could take office. She began to emerge for brief social forays after January 20th; by the time April 15th rolled around with the beginnings of the the very vocal 'tea parties' she had already decided that she was safest within her own four walls.
My friend is one of many who are thoroughly frightened by the rightwing gangs. And what concerns me is that those gangs are very, very proud of their ability to terrify the elderly. Thus they embolden the ignorant.
***ANNOUNCEMENT FROM franksolich***
You know, I'm getting pretty bored with all of these primitive bonfires advocating repress 'em, suppress 'em, kill 'em, those decent and civilized people choosing to exercise their rights under the 1st amendment. It's silly, it's nonsense, it's greatly boring.
And so from henceforth on, franksolich is going to bring over only bonfires from Skins's island that don't deal with the primitives being a bunch of fascists.
***END OF ANNOUNCEMENT FROM franksolich***
