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DUmmies Discuss Hangovers
« on: August 04, 2009, 05:08:38 PM »
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hedgehog  (1000+ posts)      Tue Aug-04-09 05:20 PM
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Anybody want to discuss who comes between you and your doctor?
I've been experiencing increasing daytime fatigue and sleepiness for several years. I've been tested and treated for depression, hypothyroidism, anemia, etc. Two doctors have reviewed my medications to ensure that they aren't the cause. Finally the psychiatrist calls the GP and proposes I take medicine X. I take it, and everything is NORMAL. No sleepiness during the day, good sleep at night, no extra energy, just everything back to normal.

The only problem is that medicine X is abused by healthy people to stay awake for hours at a time. The pharmaceutical company can charge whatever it wants since this stuff is legal and easy to get on prescription. The insurance company wants me on nice cheap amphetamines. The doctors say no way. The insurance company says it will pay for medication X only if there is a documented diagnosis of hypersomnia. So, I get sent to a neurologist and he orders a sleep test.

Now the insurance company doesn't want to approve the sleep test.

Boy, am I glad I don't have any government bureaucrats coming between me and my doctors!

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Another DUmmy with a diagnosis of "hypersomnia"! I had never heard of this affliction, and now two DUmmies in one week claim to have it. One must always be cautious of newly discovered conditions. In the overwhelming majority of cases, they are attempts to scam insurance companies, or to excuse immoral or illegal behavior. In the case of "hypersomnia", the symptoms are suspiciously consistent with how one feels after a long evening and very early morning consuming vast quantities of alcoholic beverages. I very often suffered from "hypersomnia" as a college student, and can thus speak from a position of authority. My "hypersomnia" was normally confined to Saturdays and Sundays, especially those following fraternity parties. It's the only disease I've ever known that is partial to certain days of the week. It never once occurred to me to seek insurance payments, or drugs for a cure. My bad.

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timeforpeace (1000+ posts)      Tue Aug-04-09 05:26 PM
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1. No matter how much it costs, you need your sleep and if this is what it takes, so be it.
It will all be much smoother under single payer universal health care.

I really doubt that socialized medicine will be a cure for alcoholism.
It does not seem to have worked in Russia.

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ejpoeta  (1000+ posts)        Tue Aug-04-09 05:31 PM
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4. exactly!!! that's why i laugh at that bs about getting between you and your doctor.
the insurance companies get between you and your doctor and the pharma companies do too with all those commercials. i liked keith olbermann's comment about how thune must be pro choice then since he doesn't want any politicians or beaurocrats to get between you and your doctor. sounds about right. sorry you are getting the runaround from the insurance company.
Insurance companies should pay up, no questions asked, for whatever the DUmmy wants.
After all, under Obamacare, the taxpayers will do that.
 
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Hekate  (1000+ posts)        Tue Aug-04-09 05:35 PM
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6. Blue Cross paid for my sleep test and the ensuing CPAP supplies to treat severe apnea...
Life has improved for me.

Still, I have not forgiven them for putting a clerk between my son and further extended plastic surgery following an accident 15 years ago. My husband had to just about pry the phone from my convulsing hands as I tried to climb through it and strangle the non-medically trained low-level person in question. I was a bit overwrought, perhaps. Hubby had to be the intermediary after that. (Son got the rest of his surgeries.)

I hope you can get that sleep test done and paid for by the insurance company you've been shelling out to for all these years.

Wait a minute. DUmmy Hekate got what she wanted in both of the situations she described, but she's still bitching?
I guess she wants one of those civil service salaried doctors who hides in the restroom.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Hangovers
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2009, 05:17:25 PM »
Causes of Hypersomnia
There are several potential causes of hypersomnia, including:

The sleep disorders narcolepsy (daytime sleepiness) and sleep apnea (interruptions of breathing during sleep)
Not getting enough sleep at night (sleep deprivation) (stop staying up late and posting on DU)
Being overweight (this is a given for most DUmmies)
Drug or alcohol abuse(also a given for most DUmmies)
Prescription drugs, such as tranquilizers ( most likely abusing the ones already given)
Genetics (having a relative with hypersomnia)(mom and dad lying awake worried that their little snowflake is a gay commie doesn't count)
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Hangovers
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2009, 05:34:09 PM »
WTF? I have lately had to have my oxygen intake tested while sleeping.  Seems, do to my borderline emphysema, while sleeping I don't breath deep enough to replace the oxygen in my blood. The prescribed solution is an oxygen bottle and a mask. Not once has anyone suggested meth as a solution! Then again, I don't look for a reason to take pharmaceuticals to cure me.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Hangovers
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2009, 09:15:37 PM »
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It will all be much smoother under single payer universal health care.

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Re: DUmmies Discuss Hangovers
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2009, 09:37:23 PM »
Quote from: Bondai on August 04, 2009, 09:15:37 PM
:rotf: etc etc..

Indeed it will - DUmmies, listen.

If it turns out your condition is your own damned fault, Obamacare will treat you like an active alcoholic who needs a liver transplant. You will be pushed to the end of the line, right next to grandma and granddad who are too old to treat for anything beyond pain management.

Many of you are - by your own admission

Drug abusers (both illegal and pharmaceutical).
Alcohol abusers.
Smokers.
Overweight.

And anything else Team Obama decides is bad.

Your service will be after those who live healthy lifestyles and are young. -- Those with the most to gain, and are most likely to lead a full and productive life. All of you sad-sack-nothing-cures-me-but-pot types are S . O . L .

This is what single-payer universal health care will bring.

It will also bring irony --The ones most likely to benefit from single-payer (benefit is a relative term, in this case it means 'better off than you.' ) are rethugglikkan knuckledraggers because many of us have not allowed ourselves to degrade to your sorryass incurable condition(s).

Have a nice day, primitives.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Hangovers
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2009, 11:58:08 PM »
Hypersomnia: The latest disease that will get you on SS Disability payments.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Hangovers
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2009, 06:32:11 AM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on August 04, 2009, 11:58:08 PM
Hypersomnia: The latest disease that will get you on SS Disability payments.

It wouldn't surprise me.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Hangovers
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2009, 09:02:59 AM »
I would love to see somebody call in sick because of hypersomnia  :lmao:

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Re: DUmmies Discuss Hangovers
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2009, 10:28:00 AM »
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If it turns out your condition is your own damned fault, Obamacare will treat you like an active alcoholic who needs a liver transplant. You will be pushed to the end of the line, right next to grandma and granddad who are too old to treat for anything beyond pain management.

I'm not so sure on that.  I still think if you are an ardent democrat or obumbler supporter (even if you a leech to society) you will get the treatment needed. That is their value to society.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Hangovers
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2009, 10:38:43 AM »
Quote from: jukin on August 05, 2009, 10:28:00 AM
I'm not so sure on that.  I still think if you are an ardent democrat or obumbler supporter (even if you a leech to society) you will get the treatment needed. That is their value to society.

All one has to do to realize that is take a look how the "stimulus" payoffs were handed out!
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