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primitives being anti-electricity
« on: July 22, 2009, 05:24:25 PM »
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Oh my.

I'm sort of vague on the appliance, though.

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Lefta Dissenter  (1000+ posts)      Tue Jul-21-09 07:34 PM
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Sacrilege in the C&B forum...

but, of course, forgiveness is good for the soul...

I have a Viking range - 36" dual fuel freestanding (with single oven, four burners, and grill) about 6 years old. I really don't cook and bake very often, partially because of some health issues. I grew up with (...gasp...) an electric range, and that's all I ever used until 3 years ago, when I bought this house.

I just find that when I clean my kitchen, I sort of miss having my old glasstop stove that cleaned up to a sparkle with a wipe and a swab.  People tell me that I'm nuts, which I may well be, but I'm thinking of trying to sell my range on craigslist, or try to trade it in, and get a new electric range to replace it. I have no idea what this would sell for, and I don't know what it would cost to get a decent replacement.

Any clue as to how I should try to price this range? More importantly, any suggestions for a 36" wide electric range that would be a nice replacement? I don't want to put a cheapy thing in this lovely kitchen, and when I do cook or bake, I would like my range to actually work well. But I also don't have extra money to put into this, so I'm hoping to sell the Viking for as much as I would need to spend for a new electric.

Any ideas?  Does everyone hate me now, because I actually want to give up my gas range?

franksolich would give up the natural gas stove here in a second, in exchange for an electric stove.

Electricity doesn't blow up.

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Tangerine LaBamba  (1000+ posts)      Tue Jul-21-09 08:41 PM
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1. ::: gasp ::::

::::: choke, wheeze, hack, gulp, choke, choke, choke ::::

No.

With my dying breath - don't feel bad, I wasn't in such great shape anyway - I implore you to hold on to that range. If necessary, I'll send you cash every month so as to have someone come in to clean it.

You don't want to do this. You're having what we in the South call "a spell." It's the summer, it's warm, strange bugs abound, and you're feeling a bit out of sorts.

Don't do it.

Come here and drive people such as I nuts with your plans. That's got to be good, if only for entertainment value.

But, really, that Viking is something that should be left in a will to a loved one, not put on craigslist.

PLEASE DON'T DO IT!

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hippywife  (1000+ posts)        Tue Jul-21-09 10:14 PM
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2. If you don't cook all that much and especially don't bake much, I don't see why you shouldn't have what you're most comfortable using. But if I had a Viking in this situation, I sure would learn to adapt to it.

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Warpy  (1000+ posts)        Tue Jul-21-09 11:32 PM
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4. No kidding, plus that Viking range will add to the value of the house

Kitchens sell houses and replacing that gorgeous thing with a crummy electric stove (even if it's easy to clean) will lower the value of the house.

I agree, if you don't cook that often, get an electric skillet.

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The empressof all   (1000+ posts)        Tue Jul-21-09 10:48 PM
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3. If you don't cook much get an electric skillet and keep the stove

I actually have a glass top and enjoy how easy it is to clean....But for that few times a year I do cook a real meal I'd be in heaven with any gas stove. If you're just heating and eating like I do I more often than not use my electric pressure cooker or Wolf Gang Puck Grill rather than the stove anyway.

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Tesha  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jul-22-09 03:48 AM
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5. Have you considerd...
 
Viking makes covers for both the grill and the burners, stainless steel or chopping board style.

Or... you could have a cover made just for you...

This would made keeping the surface clean easier and give you that flat surface I think you're looking for, without having to go through the hassle of getting rid of a really big selling point for the house in the future. Use your electric fry pan, plug in tea kettle, and crock pot and you're all set!

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Phentex  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jul-22-09 11:39 AM
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6. I'd sell it and get what you need...life is for the living and a stove needs to be used. I'm guessing you can get good money for it and replace it with something you will love to use.

I would not hate you in the least!

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TreasonousBastard  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jul-22-09 01:40 PM
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7. Well, some guy is selling a 6 burner Viking 36 for...6 grand on the local Craigslist. It's a store selling a floor model, with warranty, and I'm not sure what their original retail was. A dual fuel 4 burner Viking 36 like you got is around 8 grand new.

Dunno if Craigslist is the best way to sell it, but if you're really not going to use it much, might as well let someone who appreciates it have it. Recent wanderings through local appliance stores looking for a new stove myself showed nice electrics for a couple of grand at most, so this should pay for your new stove and a set of good pots with a lot of change thrown in.

Do consider a cooktop and separate oven-- not having to bend down to get stuff out from under the stove is a small luxury not to be trifled with.

I dunno.  I'd toss out the gas stove and get an electric one.
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Re: primitives being anti-electricity
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2009, 05:32:18 PM »
When the landlord finds out they've sold the high dollar stove.....we'll get another evil rich/homeless tale.

Now, where can I buy a whale oil stove....or one that burns spotted owl feathers?
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Re: primitives being anti-electricity
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2009, 05:55:16 PM »
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I dunno.  I'd toss out the gas stove and get an electric one.

Coach, this is a Viking stove! To toss it in favor of electric would be tantamount to kicking
the lovely and elegant Clare Boothe Luce out of your bed and out into the snow, in favor
of the dirty, hairy, smelly DUmmy hippywife.

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Re: primitives being anti-electricity
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2009, 05:58:10 PM »
I'll pay the cost of converting my appliances to gas simply to have a gas stove again.  Electric sucks.  Even the porcelain top stoves suck.
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Re: primitives being anti-electricity
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2009, 06:00:19 PM »
Coach, this is a Viking stove! To toss it in favor of electric would be tantamount to kicking
the lovely and elegant Clare Boothe Luce out of your bed and out into the snow, in favor
of the dirty, hairy, smelly DUmmy hippywife.

I dunno if you were active here at the time, GOBUCKS, sir--there was a time when you had gone away for a while--but I long ago described my animosity towards natural-gas appliances.

Seared in the memory of my childhood, engraved in granite, is the time some farmer alongside the Platte River was messing with a natural-gas stove.

Parts of his body were found in three counties (admittedly, the farm was near a county line), and the biggest piece was a whole entire leg, dangling down a tree as if a stocking hung on the fireplace mantle at Christmas.

No, I didn't see it myself, being too young; it was however explained to me.

I never heard of an electric stove doing anything like that.
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Re: primitives being anti-electricity
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2009, 06:05:16 PM »
I never heard of an electric stove doing anything like that.

You'd be amazed the size of the arc an electric stove can draw when one of the elements shorts out.  I saw one blow a 50-amp fuse instantly as a result.  IIRC, the breaker was toast as well, as the main also had to trip to keep the breakerbox from turning a nice pretty crimson color.
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Re: primitives being anti-electricity
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2009, 06:07:43 PM »
Seared in the memory of my childhood, engraved in granite, is the time some farmer alongside the Platte River was messing with a natural-gas stove.

Parts of his body were found in three counties (admittedly, the farm was near a county line), and the biggest piece was a whole entire leg, dangling down a tree as if a stocking hung on the fireplace mantle at Christmas.

No, I didn't see it myself, being too young; it was however explained to me.

I never heard of an electric stove doing anything like that.

Oh, I've seen electricity do far greater damage  :o

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Re: primitives being anti-electricity
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2009, 06:11:23 PM »
As have I, but we were just talking household electrical.  220 volts?  Meh. 

500,000 volts?  Now we have some potential fun!!!!

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6ah1M1Wj9w[/youtube]

That was Eldorado Substation, on the Eldorado-Lugo line.  I was working for SCE when that happened.  Only about 25 amps going through the line when they operated that disconnect.
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Re: primitives being anti-electricity
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2009, 06:19:07 PM »
You'd be amazed the size of the arc an electric stove can draw when one of the elements shorts out.  I saw one blow a 50-amp fuse instantly as a result.  IIRC, the breaker was toast as well, as the main also had to trip to keep the breakerbox from turning a nice pretty crimson color.

Two of the elements on my electric stove blew in separate incidents. Both times time they blew a hole clear through the base of the pan I was using about 1/4" in diameter.

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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2009, 06:30:52 PM »
I'll pay the cost of converting my appliances to gas simply to have a gas stove again.  Electric sucks.  Even the porcelain top stoves suck.
Amen. And it is highly unlikely that coach's dismembered neighbor was working on a Viking.

You should also consider the cost savings, even though a Viking may run in the vicinity of $10K. A nice range has a clock.
A cooktop does not. You would therefore be obligated to buy your wife a wristwatch.

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« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2009, 06:57:16 PM »
Amen. And it is highly unlikely that coach's dismembered neighbor was working on a Viking.

You should also consider the cost savings, even though a Viking may run in the vicinity of $10K. A nice range has a clock.
A cooktop does not. You would therefore be obligated to buy your wife a wristwatch.

Haven't been reading the other threads, have ya, m'boy?  I'm in the middle of a divorce.  In fact, the lawyer cashed my retainer check today.

Besides, I was ten times the cook she was.  She could barely boil water.
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Re: primitives being anti-electricity
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2009, 09:31:25 PM »
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Oh my.

I'm sort of vague on the appliance, though.

Viking is upscale, like SubZero is to the fridge