Chickens Coming Home To Roost In The Peoples' West Coast Republic

[GOBUCKS]

marmar  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jun-27-09 11:24 PM
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Gov. Gropenfuhrer: My Way or the Highway.....Do What I Say or I'll Terminate California 
from the LA Times:

Schwarzenegger's high-stakes strategy could close the budget abyss or cause the meltdown of state government.
The governor sees the crisis as a chance to 'reform the system' with proposals he has been unable to advance in the past.

Reporting from Sacramento -- Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, seeking to conquer what could be the last budget crisis of his tenure, is engaged in a high-stakes negotiating strategy with lawmakers that could force him to preside over a meltdown of state government.

As legislators have scrambled to stop the state from postponing payment of its bills and issuing IOUs starting next week, the governor has vowed to veto any measure that fails to close the state's entire $24-billion deficit.

In doing so, Schwarzenegger has sent the message that he would rather allow the state to begin shutting down than let lawmakers push its troubles off for months by closing only part of the shortfall. The latter prospect could swallow up the rest of his governorship.

"Whatever needs to be done," Schwarzenegger told reporters outside his Capitol office Friday when asked why he would be willing to delay payments to needy Californians. "I know that there is a history in this building of always being late with the budget, to drag it out and to kick that can down the alley. . . . I don't think we have this luxury this time."

The governor readily admits that he sees the crisis as a chance to make big changes to government -- to "reform the system," he said Friday -- with proposals he has struggled to advance in the past. ..............(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-arnold28-2009ju...

 
It is truly beautiful to see the misery socialism has spawned in the Peoples' Republic of California. I'm sure the decent and civilized residents of that benighted state, who are in the minority, will suffer from it far less than the Bay Area and Los Angeles County drones who brought it about.

kestrel91316  (1000+ posts)      
 Sun Jun-28-09 12:03 AM
5. The right hates CA and its residents almost as much as it hates
Al Qaeda. And no, I'm not joking. They have had us in their sights for quite a while.

I  believe DUmmy kestrelnumbers is starting to get it. Yes, DUmmy kestrelnumbers, we hate you and we revel in your misery.

KakistocracyHater  (847 posts)     Sat Jun-27-09 11:59 PM
4. typical Rightie
why not kill the interest on the state debt? Why not forego new school books for a few years? Why not pay ONLY wholesale prices for the state's business? Quite picking up the tab, which they MAY have already done, like in the UK apparently people didn't realize their taxes were paying the public servants' lunches, dinners, & some vacations. Stop ALL TOP LEVEL pay increases. & oh, yeah;!!!!CREATE JOBS IN CALIFORNIA!!!!

Cause you can't pay it off with the trahs talk you're giving, Arnie. Can these Republicans actually DO anything, or do they just CANNABALIZE others?

 
DUmmy KakistocracyHater just realized that taxpayers finance everything in the lives of the army of "public servants" the left has dictated for the P.R. of California.

[The Village Idiot]

Good idea. Stop paying for Nancy Pelosi's "private" tax-funded plane and millions in fuel costs every year.

[miskie]

I have the solution - Sell off the state of Jefferson. It will kill the budget issue, and make a bunch of people very happy - It would be nice to separate northern California from the moonbat and illegal infested south.  

[franksolich]

Good idea. Stop paying for Nancy Pelosi's "private" tax-funded plane and millions in fuel costs every year.

Oh, but by far, what's worse is this--did you know the taxpayers of California pay for luxury vehicles (the vehicle itself, insurance, gasoline, maintenance, whatever else) for each California state representative?  And that the represenatives are allowed to use them for personal business too, and don't have to account for that?

Geezuz.  Mere state representatives, not even state senators.

They're kind of on the bottom of the food-chain of elected officials, state representatives.  If I were a janitor in the state capitol in Sacremento, I guess I would expect a taxpayer-paid $60,000 motor vehicle too.

[NHSparky]

[quote author=GOBUCKS link=topic=30333.msg319366#msg319366 date=1246163162It is truly beautiful to see the misery socialism has spawned in the Peoples' Republic of California. I'm sure the decent and civilized residents of that benighted state, who are in the minority, will suffer from it far less than the Bay Area and Los Angeles County drones who brought it about. [/quote]

I wish that were true.  In many agricultural areas and more outlying areas (my aunt and uncle live in Santa Maria), the unemployment rate is substantially higher in many of those areas (think 30-40 percent in some towns.)

No, the only thing that socialism guarantees is spread equally is misery.

[MrsSmith]

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-arnold28-2009jun28,0,2038455.story

Back on the governor's demand list is a plan to cut the pensions received by state workers, which unions have stymied before but which he thinks may gain traction with a cash-strapped public. Schwarzenegger also views this as an ideal time to once again target growth and fraud in the state's multibillion-dollar in-home healthcare program, which employs 300,000 unionized workers.

His agenda includes anti-fraud efforts and tougher enrollment requirements for the state's food stamp programs, efforts that advocates for the poor say are designed to discourage people from participating. In his radio address, he said the state and counties could get by with a "fraction" of the 27,000 workers now handling eligibility for Medi-Cal and food stamps by using Web-based enrollment.

Schwarzenegger has revived plans to allow local school districts to contract out for services like school bus transportation and lawn maintenance, a proposal favored by the GOP but despised by school employee unions.

Sounds like common sense... 

[thundley4]

I don't understand what the problem is. Ahnuld is just doing what Ram Emanuel said to do.  "Never let a good crisis go to waste".   The Dimrats are screwing us all by taking advantage of the economic situation to fill their Wish List for the 50 plus years. Ahnuld is just doing the flip side of the same coin.

[The Village Idiot]

Oh, but by far, what's worse is this--did you know the taxpayers of California pay for luxury vehicles (the vehicle itself, insurance, gasoline, maintenance, whatever else) for each California state representative?  And that the represenatives are allowed to use them for personal business too, and don't have to account for that?

Geezuz.  Mere state representatives, not even state senators.

They're kind of on the bottom of the food-chain of elected officials, state representatives.  If I were a janitor in the state capitol in Sacremento, I guess I would expect a taxpayer-paid $60,000 motor vehicle too.

That is very wasteful

[Duchess]

akistocracyHater  (847 posts)     Sat Jun-27-09 11:59 PM
4. typical Rightie
why not kill the interest on the state debt? Why not forego new school books for a few years? Why not pay ONLY wholesale prices for the state's business? Quite picking up the tab, which they MAY have already done, like in the UK apparently people didn't realize their taxes were paying the public servants' lunches, dinners, & some vacations. Stop ALL TOP LEVEL pay increases. & oh, yeah;!!!!CREATE JOBS IN CALIFORNIA!!!!

Cause you can't pay it off with the trahs talk you're giving, Arnie. Can these Republicans actually DO anything, or do they just CANNABALIZE others?

Typical DUmmy economics, they're already taxing business and the wealthy out of California, so do more of the same. Yeah, because that'll create more jobs.

[Wineslob]

Back on the governor's demand list is a plan to cut the pensions received by state workers, which unions have stymied before but which he thinks may gain traction with a cash-strapped public. Schwarzenegger also views this as an ideal time to once again target growth and fraud in the state's multibillion-dollar in-home healthcare program, which employs 300,000 unionized workers.

His agenda includes anti-fraud efforts and tougher enrollment requirements for the state's food stamp programs, efforts that advocates for the poor say are designed to discourage people from participating. In his radio address, he said the state and counties could get by with a "fraction" of the 27,000 workers now handling eligibility for Medi-Cal and food stamps by using Web-based enrollment.

Schwarzenegger has revived plans to allow local school districts to contract out for services like school bus transportation and lawn maintenance, a proposal favored by the GOP but despised by school employee unions.

Sounds like common sense

Yes it does, but with the Dems in control, who, by the way, caused all this, it'll never happen.

As I've said before, unless we completely cut all the bennies for illegals, which I hope is gonna happen because they've "broken" the bank, we won't get out of this mess. I am, however, suspicious of the Dem's silence on these issues. My thinking is they wait for Arnold to do his "thing" so blame can be laid at the feet of the Re-pubs. Which, judging by the stupidity of the DUmps reaction, might work. 
They are planning for the next election, but this conservative, won't forget.

[Eupher]

GOBUCKS:

I  believe DUmmy kestrelnumbers is starting to get it. Yes, DUmmy kestrelnumbers, we hate you and we revel in your misery.

I know you're not speaking for me when you say that.

I don't hate anybody. I do hate the system that Califunny has adopted for itself, and I question the sanity of a great many of the population that infest the Bay area in particular, but I don't hate anybody.

These are seriously misguided people who have allowed a culture of entitlement to infest and erode the very fabric of the people. Their systems have allowed illegals entry into the state with impunity, have insisted on subsidizing those illegals to the point of lunacy, and have otherwise taxed themselves into oblivion.

Socialism does not work. We see that again, in living color, in the debacle that is California.

For an Austrian who surely has seen a little bit of communism, Ahnuld has been awfully slow to attack the problem. So he waits to the eleventh hour to "fix" things.

Great, Ahnuld. Just great.    

[GOBUCKS]

I know you're not speaking for me when you say that.

I don't hate anybody. I do hate the system that Califunny has adopted for itself, and I question the sanity of a great many of the population that infest the Bay area in particular, but I don't hate anybody.

For an Austrian who surely has seen a little bit of communism, Ahnuld has been awfully slow to attack the problem. So he waits to the eleventh hour to "fix" things.

Of course I'm speaking for myhself, and some degree of hyperbole is unavoidable when speaking of DUmmies. But, hyperbole aside, I believe that anyone who doesn't feel at least a little spark of hatred when considering these traitors has allowed way too much liberal "moderation" to infiltrate their psyche. Tough to avoid, when we're hammered with it day after day. I think that at some point it's useful to feel anger toward your enemy, hopefully a little more targeted and rational than the endless ignorant rage of the DUmmies.

As for Arnold, consider the lunatic electorate that put him in office. It's no longer the state that blessed us with Reagan.

[Eupher]

Of course I'm speaking for myhself, and some degree of hyperbole is unavoidable when speaking of DUmmies. But, hyperbole aside, I believe that anyone who doesn't feel at least a little spark of hatred when considering these traitors has allowed way too much liberal "moderation" to infiltrate their psyche. Tough to avoid, when we're hammered with it day after day. I think that at some point it's useful to feel anger toward your enemy, hopefully a little more targeted and rational than the endless ignorant rage of the DUmmies.

As for Arnold, consider the lunatic electorate that put him in office. It's no longer the state that blessed us with Reagan.

I understand your point, and don't disagree with the premise. I just have a problem with the word "hate." It's pretty powerful ju-ju.

[BlueStateSaint]

Ahnuld is a practicioner of Rahm Emanuel's line:  "Never let a crisis go to waste."

Think about it.  If he actually goes through with this stuff, conservatives (or what passes for a conservative in Kalifornication) will laud the guy to the high heavens.  Ahnuld gets re-elected based on this and the lower taxes that will result from this, and he becomes the "kingmaker" at the RNC in 2012.

No, he wouldn't be the president, but the power behind the throne.

[Eupher]

Ahnuld is a practicioner of Rahm Emanuel's line:  "Never let a crisis go to waste."

Think about it.  If he actually goes through with this stuff, conservatives (or what passes for a conservative in Kalifornication) will laud the guy to the high heavens.  Ahnuld gets re-elected based on this and the lower taxes that will result from this, and he becomes the "kingmaker" at the RNC in 2012.

No, he wouldn't be the president, but the power behind the throne.

Arnie's term-limited. He can't run in 2010. He's a lame duck trying to make a silk purse (something approximately normalcy) out of a sow's ear (the California economy).

[Gwitness]

Remind me again.....which party has control of the three left coast states?

[BlueStateSaint]

Arnie's term-limited. He can't run in 2010. He's a lame duck trying to make a silk purse (something approximately normalcy) out of a sow's ear (the California economy).

My bad on the term limits.  But, he'll still want to have a say in who gets the Republican nod in 2012.

[Eupher]

My bad on the term limits.  But, he'll still want to have a say in who gets the Republican nod in 2012.

I suppose so, but I fail to understand why. He's no more a Republican than George Soros - he's just a little less rabid about his liberalism.

[jukin]

When I graduated college and went to work making machines that make printed circuit boards, California was the single biggest regional manufacturer in the world. Along with that we had the largest industry providing machines to make the boards and a large consumable supplier network. Within ten years the legislature and environmentals brought our total production down by 1/2. in the next five years all but very specialized or quick turns were put out of business.  So, they killed the basic commodity, the industry that supplied leading edge machines, and the consumable producers. Then the left screams how there are no high paying manufacturing jobs.

Cause and effect and a leftist, never shall the two meet.

[Lacarnut]

I suppose so, but I fail to understand why. He's no more a Republican than George Soros - he's just a little less rabid about his liberalism.

That is the gospel truth. I hope he stays his dumb liberal ass away from the Repub convention. He would fit in on the other side.

[GOBUCKS]

I understand your point, and don't disagree with the premise. I just have a problem with the word "hate." It's pretty powerful ju-ju.

"Hate" is like "gay", another perfectly good word that the rabid left has tried to expropriate from its proper use. In the left lexicon, which is hammered at you day and night in every medium, "hate" is a criminal, hitlerite emotion that involves visiting violence, or even criticism, on some person or group favored by the left. In their world, such violence, or criticism, should be placed a separate category of crimes more heinous than any routine assault or slaughter. By doing that, they prevent you from expressing any strong disagreement with their stance. For example, during the last election, anyone strongly opposing the jug-eared Kenyan communist was guilty of "hate", since he is a mulatto, a group favored by the left. In fact, you were guilty of "hate" if you simply questioned his qualification to run for the office, since he's a Kenyan. I believe the fear of being labelled a "hater" caused a lot of otherwise decent and civilized people to vote for a terrible candidate they would otherwise have never considered.
Hate is a very strong emotion of disapproval. It is perfectly justified in many situations, and I would never apologize for feeling it.