Another lovely, gaseous gift from Mythsaje

[BannedFromDU]

Mythsaje  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)      Thu May-28-09 12:00 AM
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Screwed? Oh, let me count the ways.

They made you clean the ladies' room, too?
   
 
An economy in freefall.

I thought The Messiah said it was getting better.

No serious attempt to address the cause and an insanely obsessive interest in talking about the symptoms. Money is flowing from our government into our corporations in bailout maneuvers that will, at best, simply slow the fall. HB-1 visas are devastating our IT employment rates, jobs are being off-shored at unchanging rates, we're in TWO wars with another country waving its nukes at us and blowing us a raspberry in the process.

Um, Saje? Your party is in total control. And our government doesn't HAVE money. It flows from you and me, and our children, and grandchildren, and their children, too.  And The Messiah wants a budget that includes a deficit greater than the deficit from every budget before him COMBINED. Comments?


Our for-profit and quantity over quality health care system is bleeding the people dry, but now they're talking about not only mandating insurance (what happens to people who are already on the edge who just can't take that one little push? and taxing benefits as income).

What happened to your punctuation skills? And again, which party is talking about taxing benefits? Um, yeah - YOURS.


Let's also include the fact that a rather large proportion of the goods we receive from our "favored trading" partner (who happens to own roughly 40% of our debt) are either of very poor quality or actually toxic.

So don't consume them, dipshit. You're complicit, anyway - your employer sells a lot of that junk.


Higher education rates are skyrocketing, and anyone who could be considered "middle-class" (if they're lucky enough to get a job doing what they studied to do) start their working life under several tens of thousands worth of debt.

Gee, I wonder what the political bent of most college and universities is?


Now they're talking about a national consumption (VAT) tax to try to bring in more revenue.

"They" means "Democrats," Saje.


Our media, for the most part, couldn't do a real bit of investigative journalism if its existence depended on it. Their idea of "information gathering" is asking the loudest asshole around what HE thinks about anything in particular. And, for a "liberal media" it sure spends a lot of time repeating Republican memes.


Have they been calling you? You're the loudest asshole I've ever seen outside of Will Pitt. And no investigative journalism is being done because they're all too busy asking The Messiah what "enchants" him the most about being President.


Our environment is taking hit after hit, and rather than making any really bold moves toward green energy, they've fallen into a holding pattern.

Um, didn't you hear? We're supposed to paint everything white. That also came from a Democrat. Dude, pay attention to what your own people are saying.


You have to ask. "Oh, ****. What next?"

I know what's next: 300 or so flatulent words from you, every day off.


Our elected representatives, both legislative and Executive branch, having won their seats in a landslide victory based, very much part, on a mantra of Hope and Change, seem incapable of or unwilling to fight the battles that need to be fought to give us a fighting chance. I don't know. But, honestly, it's frustrating the shit out of me.

What did you expect, moron?



The Republicans are absolutely batshit insane. The banks and other industries come running to the government for bailouts, partially due the fact that the Republicans are so far in their pockets they're sucking lint and have been pushing the whole deregulation thing to the point this kind of financial tomfoolery was not only possible, but inevitable. But OUR leaders seem to have no interest in putting the brakes on with regards to this madness. How many things can we juggle at once without slipping and losing a leg as a result?

How'd you get from Republicans to banks? Care to check where a lot of those bank execs sent their campaign donations? Say, HOW much did Fannie and Freddie give The Messiah?


A leg upon the bleeding stump of which our government (with the brainless complicity of our media) will insist on slapping a happy-face spongebob band-aid before calling it good?

Well, it's a government of Democrat leadership.


We elect these people to office because, allegedly, they know what the **** they're doing? We come here and discuss these things because, for one, they matter, and for two, we're from much the same block of talent as the people we elect.


You ARE from the same block of talent: NONE.


Yes, problems rarely have simple solutions. And each item we're dealing with has its own level of complexity. But that doesn't excuse a lack of meaningful movement toward ACTUAL PROGRESSIVE GOALS. We're trying to tiptoe through a pack of vicious attack dogs by saying "nice doggy," just hoping we don't get bitten. Guess what--we're going to get bitten. There is NOTHING the Democrats can't do that won't raise the right's ire. So why are we tip-toeing again? Why are we going into the battle for this country waving a white flag? "We know we can't get anything we really want, so we're just going to ask for this little thing okay?"

Because you're all craven political faggots, afraid of your own shadows, calculating where no calculation is necessary, taking polls when you should trust your instincts. All you people care about is being in office. That's it. Period.

And then react with shock when we get bitten. News Flash: They're NOT going to cooperate with us. So why pretend they will? The very few moderate Republicans out there aren't the ball and chain that keeps us from overriding them--OUR OWN ****ing representatives are. The DLC, the Blue Dogs, the "third way" people who either don't understand the stakes, are too timid to do anything remotely progressive, or are down there sucking lint with the Republicans in the corporate pocket.

Everything is always someone else's fault, isn't it? How's it feel to learn that your own party lied its nuts off to you, Saje?

We're out here shouting "HEY! Listen to us!" And they're sitting up there saying "So, who wants pizza?"

No, Saje, they're saying, "**** you ALL. We got OURS. You get YOURS."


Corporations that profit off our labor in countless ways, who command literally hundreds of little aspects of our lives, from our jobs to the food we eat, spend billions--tens of billions--of dollars to promote their agendas within Congress. Our elected officials get money to campaign, to stay in office, and we bear the brunt of it when their loyalty to their donors takes precedence over the good of the American People.

Whatever, dude. You're losing it.


So, you say, "We hear you complaining, but what do you propose we do about it?"

Well, for starters, we can look at addressing REAL campaign reform on a state by state basis starting with those states that have ballot initiatives. We can tell the corporations and moneyed individuals "You can donate as much as you want to the political arena, but it goes into a general fund that all viable candidates" (anyone possessing, say, the support of a minimum of 02% of the population of any given political entity (city, county, state) gets an equivalent amount of that funding to finance a campaign0.

Wait a minute. We had to smell your farts for months after you guys won election after election, and now you want a do-over?

This would open up a lot of room for third parties too, the way I see it. It would make campaigning, initially, about going out and getting the support of real people, not artificial ones. It would initiate a true grass roots movement in politics.

No, it wouldn't, and you know it.


And I'm not sure I see why it couldn't work... Change the state laws to get money out of the mix, and build from there. It won't solve all our problems, but might bring some truly creative ideas to the fore.

And if we need anything right now, it's creativity. Or am I just fooling myself?

Man, this is pathetic, even for you. Saje, you're inert. Your life is meaningless. Give it up. Washington doesn't care about you, bro. That's just how it is.

Not too good, this one. He must have had to work late.

[The Village Idiot]

actually we have a quality over quantity healthcare system....

... Dems want us to wait 6 months for a specialist and rationed care... because they want more people who ain't paying in to be covered

[JohnnyReb]

All I want to know is.....will my gallon of free white roof coating come with my free pony? ....and it better be lead free.

[franksolich]

Not too good, this one. He must have had to work late.

I suspect those overextended credit cards and other money problems are getting to the legendary herb primitive.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Yeah, Mythsaje, nothing is gonna say "Economic recovery" like cap-and-trade.

 

You moron.

[BlueStateSaint]

Yeah, Mythsaje, nothing is gonna say "Economic recovery" like cap-and-trade.

 

You moron.

DAT, I seem to remember that the clinical definition of a "moron" means that said individual has the mental capacity of a child between 8 and 12 years old.  (For those who wonder, "imbecile" refers to those with a mental capacity of a 3 to 7 year old, and "idiot" refers to anyone with a mental capacity of less than that.)  But, comparing said primitive to said mentally "less" persons is that it gives the primitive in question too much credit.  I'd prefer to compare said primitives to things that are more their mental capacity . . .

. . . such as amoebae.

[DumbAss Tanker]

DAT, I seem to remember that the clinical definition of a "moron" means that said individual has the mental capacity of a child between 8 and 12 years old.  (For those who wonder, "imbecile" refers to those with a mental capacity of a 3 to 7 year old, and "idiot" refers to anyone with a mental capacity of less than that.)  But, comparing said primitive to said mentally "less" persons is that it gives the primitive in question too much credit.  I'd prefer to compare said primitives to things that are more their mental capacity . . .

. . . such as amoebae.

If we were going to go technical in describing them, there would have to be a whole new terminology invented for it, since their mental processes are to thought as antimatter is to atoms and molecules to which we are accustomed....it is not just a lack of positive thought or intelligence such as we might find in the brain-dead or business meetings of more than three people, but a mutually-annihilating opposite to it...antithought, if you will.

[franksolich]

"anti-thought;" I like that.

You are a genius of the first order, sir.

[tuolumnejim]

DAT, I seem to remember that the clinical definition of a "moron" means that said individual has the mental capacity of a child between 8 and 12 years old.  (For those who wonder, "imbecile" refers to those with a mental capacity of a 3 to 7 year old, and "idiot" refers to anyone with a mental capacity of less than that.)  But, comparing said primitive to said mentally "less" persons is that it gives the primitive in question too much credit.  I'd prefer to compare said primitives to things that are more their mental capacity . . .

. . . such as amoebae.

Oh come on, I would give them the intelligence rating of at least a retarded mosquito. 

[diesel driver]

Oh come on, I would give them the intelligence rating of at least a retarded mosquito. 

You are very generous....

[BlueStateSaint]

You are very generous....

Agreed.  Retarded mosquitoes all over the world, of every species, are now offended and wish all sorts of diseases borne by them on you, TJ.

Have to agree with the Coach on the genius of "anti-thought."  DAT, that's brilliant.  H5 duly given.

[franksolich]

Have to agree with the Coach on the genius of "anti-thought."  DAT, that's brilliant.

It's more than brilliant, it's superbrilliant.

I want to find a way to start using it, it's so good.

But when I start using it, I'll be sure to give Tanker credit for it.

[GOBUCKS]

I suspect those overextended credit cards and other money problems are getting to the legendary herb primitive.

Yeah, that, and all those wingnuts asking him for extra ketchup packets.

[franksolich]

Yeah, that, and all those wingnuts asking him for extra ketchup packets.

You know, I pretty much give up on the legendary herb primitive.

I'll keep him rated as a second-tier primitive for now, but might change my mind.

A second-tier primitive is a primitive with promise, with motivation for betterment.

The legendary herb primitive COULD be a good writer, an excellent writer, but he's got to shift from stupid political commentary and fantasy junk to human interest writing.

He could be really great, and even successful, at that.

But no, it's now painfully obvious the legendary herb primitive merely wants to be a much-younger male version of the American Nana primitive, the NanceGreggs idiot.

I have no idea why; it's sort of like franksolich trying to emulate the "skills" of Pedro Picasso.

But.....we all make our own destinies, choose our own paths.