Obama Wins Neb., Wash. State Caucuses

[Wretched Excess]

Obama Wins Neb., Wash. State

    WASHINGTON (AP) - Sen. Barack Obama won caucuses in Nebraska and Washington state and battled Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton in the Louisiana primary Saturday night in a bid to chip away at her slender delegate lead in their historic race for the Democratic presidential nomination.

Obama was winning nearly 70 percent support in Nebraska, compared with 31 percent for Clinton, in caucuses with 24 delegates at stake.

He also had 67 percent support in Washington state caucuses, compared with 32 percent for Clinton with returns tallied from about one-half of the state's precincts. There were 78 delegates at stake, the largest single prize of the night.

The Democratic race moved into a new, post-Super Tuesday phase as Sen. John McCain flunked his first ballot test since becoming the Republican nominee-in-waiting. He lost Kansas caucuses to Mike Huckabee, gaining less than 24 percent of the vote.

Huckabee, the former Arkansas governor, got nearly 60 percent of the vote a few hours after telling conservatives in Washington, "I majored in miracles, and I still believe in them." He won all 36 delegates at stake.

For all his brave talk, Huckabee was hopelessly behind in the delegate race. McCain had 719, compared with 234 for Huckabee and 14 for Texas Rep. Ron Paul. It takes 1,191 to win the nomination at the national convention.

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if I was a democrat, I think I would be a bit worried that my potential nominee was getting fat on caucus states that (other than Wash in this particular example) the dems have no chance of carrying in novemeber.

I suppose this is called "expanding the party".  and how is it that he totally cleans up in caucuses, but the primary states are always fairly close?  do The BarackStar! supporters carry baseball bats?

[Wretched Excess]

according to exit polls in the LA primary, The Barackstar! is winning 9 in 10 african americans, and losing 7 in 10 white males.  I can't find an exit poll number for clintons vote share from white women.

[franksolich]

What I find interesting in the current Democrat civil war is that Messalina Agrippina seems to do well in the party-machine-controlled areas (with the exception of Chicago and Illinois, but that exception's easily understood), while the Obamination seems to do best in those places where elections tend to be honest.

This is no credit to the Obamination; it simply means that outside of Chicago and Illinois, he hasn't yet developed the "clout" with people who create "votes" out of thin air.

And, as you said, the Obamination seems to win in many places where he doesn't have a ghost's chance of winning in November, which is significant.

By the way, some columnist in the newspapers today--I forget who, other than that she's a woman, of the left-wing variety--made some interesting observations about the relations between the Kennedys and Messalina Agrippina.

Remember that Vast Teddy and Caroline Kennedy (and Maria Schwartznegger) came out heavily and enthusiastically for the Obamination.....but then Messalina Agrippina buried the Obamination in, of all places, Massachusetts.

Remember too that the Bostonian Billionaire and the current misgovernor of Massachusetts had come out for the Obamination; a whole lot of good that did.

By the way, I wasn't aware that despite Vast Teddy, Caroline Kennedy, and Maria Schwartznegger, the children of Robert Kennedy are all on Messalina Agrippina's chariot.

I'm having a great time, watching this.    

[Wretched Excess]

What I find interesting in the current Democrat civil war is that Messalina Agrippina seems to do well in the party-machine-controlled areas (with the exception of Chicago and Illinois, but that exception's easily understood), while the Obamination seems to do best in those places where elections tend to be honest.

This is no credit to the Obamination; it simply means that outside of Chicago and Illinois, he hasn't yet developed the "clout" with people who create "votes" out of thin air.

And, as you said, the Obamination seems to win in many places where he doesn't have a ghost's chance of winning in November, which is significant.

By the way, some columnist in the newspapers today--I forget who, other than that she's a woman, of the left-wing variety--made some interesting observations about the relations between the Kennedys and Messalina Agrippina.

Remember that Vast Teddy and Caroline Kennedy (and Maria Schwartznegger) came out heavily and enthusiastically for the Obamination.....but then Messalina Agrippina buried the Obamination in, of all places, Massachusetts.

Remember too that the Bostonian Billionaire and the current misgovernor of Massachusetts had come out for the Obamination; a whole lot of good that did.

By the way, I wasn't aware that despite Vast Teddy, Caroline Kennedy, and Maria Schwartznegger, the children of Robert Kennedy are all on Messalina Agrippina's chariot.

I'm having a great time, watching this.   

I have never attended a caucus, but from everything I have read, it seems like a spectacularly silly way of picking a candidate.  lots of screaming and shouting & etc.

but I don't see a dime's worth of difference between them, policy wise.

I have become a keen observer of The BarackStar! over the past few weeks and months, and the next time I hear him say something substantive will be the first.

 

[Wretched Excess]

another utterly vapid acceptance speech by The BarackStar! on foxnews, of anyone is interested.

he still gets cheers when he trots out that line against the war.  I assume he is going to shut the hell
up about that in the general.

[Chris_]

another utterly vapid acceptance speech by The BarackStar! on foxnews, of anyone is interested.

he still gets cheers when he trots out that line against the war.  I assume he is going to shut the hell
up about that in the general.

I think more people were watching the Daytona race.  I know I was. 

[Wretched Excess]

"I believe that if you work in this country, you should not be poor".

and the crowd goes wild.

and what, exactly, does he plan on doing about it?

[Wretched Excess]

another utterly vapid acceptance speech by The BarackStar! on foxnews, of anyone is interested.

he still gets cheers when he trots out that line against the war.  I assume he is going to shut the hell
up about that in the general.

I think more people were watching the Daytona race.  I know I was. 

I have been going out of my way to avoid anything sports related since green bay lost in the playoffs.  I
usually keep this up until spring training.

[Chris_]

I've heard that line before. 

What a completely useless campaign platform.

[Chris_]

I have been going out of my way to avoid anything sports related since green bay lost in the playoffs.  I
usually keep this up until spring training.

There wasn't anything else on. 

[Wretched Excess]

I've heard that line before. 

What a completely useless campaign platform.

all poetry, nothing specific.  in fact, his whole political career could be best described as "nothing specific".

hell, I am beginning to get the same feeling about him winning the white house as I did when the dems were about to win congress;  "this should be fun to watch.  they won't get a damn thing done, because they have no idea want they want to do".

[vftb]

Did anybody other than me notice that when he rattled off the list of service young folks could do to pay back for college that military service was not mentioned.  This guy is a total ****ing clown and it scares the shit out of me that we have enough sheeple in this country to probably elect him 

[Wretched Excess]

Did anybody other than me notice that when he rattled off the list of service young folks could do to pay back for college that military service was not mentioned.  This guy is a total ****ing clown and it scares the shit out of me that we have enough sheeple in this country to probably elect him 

heh.  yep.  now he is favor of "hope".

now there is a solid political platform.

[NHSparky]

"I believe that if you work in this country, you should not be poor".

and the crowd goes wild.

and what, exactly, does he plan on doing about it?

Uh, guys at Burger King now make $40 an hour?

[Wretched Excess]

"I believe that if you work in this country, you should not be poor".

and the crowd goes wild.

and what, exactly, does he plan on doing about it?

Uh, guys at Burger King now make $40 an hour?

$30 whoppers ought to piss a few million people off.

[NHSparky]

"I believe that if you work in this country, you should not be poor".

and the crowd goes wild.

and what, exactly, does he plan on doing about it?

Uh, guys at Burger King now make $40 an hour?

$30 whoppers ought to piss a few million people off.

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVm84MD4vU4&feature=related[/youtube]

[Wretched Excess]

"I believe that if you work in this country, you should not be poor".

and the crowd goes wild.

and what, exactly, does he plan on doing about it?

Uh, guys at Burger King now make $40 an hour?

$30 whoppers ought to piss a few million people off.

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVm84MD4vU4&feature=related[/youtube]

[Lauri]

What I find interesting in the current Democrat civil war is that Messalina Agrippina seems to do well in the party-machine-controlled areas (with the exception of Chicago and Illinois, but that exception's easily understood), while the Obamination seems to do best in those places where elections tend to be honest.

This is no credit to the Obamination; it simply means that outside of Chicago and Illinois, he hasn't yet developed the "clout" with people who create "votes" out of thin air.

And, as you said, the Obamination seems to win in many places where he doesn't have a ghost's chance of winning in November, which is significant.

By the way, some columnist in the newspapers today--I forget who, other than that she's a woman, of the left-wing variety--made some interesting observations about the relations between the Kennedys and Messalina Agrippina.

Remember that Vast Teddy and Caroline Kennedy (and Maria Schwartznegger) came out heavily and enthusiastically for the Obamination.....but then Messalina Agrippina buried the Obamination in, of all places, Massachusetts.

Remember too that the Bostonian Billionaire and the current misgovernor of Massachusetts had come out for the Obamination; a whole lot of good that did.

By the way, I wasn't aware that despite Vast Teddy, Caroline Kennedy, and Maria Schwartznegger, the children of Robert Kennedy are all on Messalina Agrippina's chariot.

I'm having a great time, watching this.   

I have never attended a caucus, but from everything I have read, it seems like a spectacularly silly way of picking a candidate.  lots of screaming and shouting & etc.

but I don't see a dime's worth of difference between them, policy wise.

I have become a keen observer of The BarackStar! over the past few weeks and months, and the next time I hear him say something substantive will be the first.

 

we had our Wa. state caucus today... and then the primary on the 19th. i dont get the point of that.

[Wretched Excess]

What I find interesting in the current Democrat civil war is that Messalina Agrippina seems to do well in the party-machine-controlled areas (with the exception of Chicago and Illinois, but that exception's easily understood), while the Obamination seems to do best in those places where elections tend to be honest.

This is no credit to the Obamination; it simply means that outside of Chicago and Illinois, he hasn't yet developed the "clout" with people who create "votes" out of thin air.

And, as you said, the Obamination seems to win in many places where he doesn't have a ghost's chance of winning in November, which is significant.

By the way, some columnist in the newspapers today--I forget who, other than that she's a woman, of the left-wing variety--made some interesting observations about the relations between the Kennedys and Messalina Agrippina.

Remember that Vast Teddy and Caroline Kennedy (and Maria Schwartznegger) came out heavily and enthusiastically for the Obamination.....but then Messalina Agrippina buried the Obamination in, of all places, Massachusetts.

Remember too that the Bostonian Billionaire and the current misgovernor of Massachusetts had come out for the Obamination; a whole lot of good that did.

By the way, I wasn't aware that despite Vast Teddy, Caroline Kennedy, and Maria Schwartznegger, the children of Robert Kennedy are all on Messalina Agrippina's chariot.

I'm having a great time, watching this.   

I have never attended a caucus, but from everything I have read, it seems like a spectacularly silly way of picking a candidate.  lots of screaming and shouting & etc.

but I don't see a dime's worth of difference between them, policy wise.

I have become a keen observer of The BarackStar! over the past few weeks and months, and the next time I hear him say something substantive will be the first.

 

we had our Wa. state caucus today... and then the primary on the 19th. i dont get the point of that.

wait, you guys have a caucus AND a primary?

that makes no sense at all.

[Lauri]

yup. i think its a state thing. but with the Dems in control here the past quarter century, who the hell knows who thought it up..

they wanted us to stop using so much gas, so we did. their revenues fell now they are taxing us on the carbon footprint our cars 'put out' ... 

i've decided asking why they do what they do is just pointless .. they are just idiots. that's all it is.

[Wretched Excess]

yup. i think its a state thing. but with the Dems in control here the past quarter century, who the hell knows who thought it up..

they wanted us to stop using so much gas, so we did. their revenues fell now they are taxing us on the carbon footprint our cars 'put out' ... 

i've decided asking why they do what they do is just pointless .. they are just idiots. that's all it is.

move to the south.  we is much smarter down here.

[Lauri]

yup. i think its a state thing. but with the Dems in control here the past quarter century, who the hell knows who thought it up..

they wanted us to stop using so much gas, so we did. their revenues fell now they are taxing us on the carbon footprint our cars 'put out' ... 

i've decided asking why they do what they do is just pointless .. they are just idiots. that's all it is.

move to the south.  we is much smarter down here.

i love the south, but i think i need to stick around here and just be an agitator for a while longer. when conservatives flee an area, the idiots move in and there is no one to stop the stupid.

we have to at least try to hold some ground. granted, it does some impossible at times..

[Airwolf]

yup. i think its a state thing. but with the Dems in control here the past quarter century, who the hell knows who thought it up..

they wanted us to stop using so much gas, so we did. their revenues fell now they are taxing us on the carbon footprint our cars 'put out' ... 

i've decided asking why they do what they do is just pointless .. they are just idiots. that's all it is.

move to the south.  we is much smarter down here.

i love the south, but i think i need to stick around here and just be an agitator for a while longer. when conservatives flee an area, the idiots move in and there is no one to stop the stupid.

we have to at least try to hold some ground. granted, it does some impossible at times..

Prime example. All of us leaving CU and look what happened. So now we are all here and the Ground is being held here.

[franksolich]

we had our Wa. state caucus today... and then the primary on the 19th. i dont get the point of that.

We have that too, and don't be surprised if the results of the Democrat presidential primary in Nebraska the second week of May vary greatly from the caucus results.

It's all very silly; in fact, caucuses are downright stupid, really stupid.

During the 1920s, Wisconsin and Nebraska devised partisan primaries, to take the power away from the bosses, and to let the general public decide things.

About 40 years later, beginning with Iowa, the bosses wanted that power back, and formed the caucus system to replace the primary system.  The bosses by then being the professional "political activists," people who get paid very well for their "volunteer" "political activity."

Caucuses are power-grabs by the bosses.

The biggest defect in caucuses is that they reflect the opinions of political activists, which many times, if not most of the time, differ greatly from general public opinion (which is what I mean by suggesting Messalina Agrippina will carry the Nebraska Democrats in the primary, even though the Obamanation won the caucuses here)--and since the general public tends to vote in November, participating only a little bit or not at all in "caucuses," caucuses are a great way to select a.....loser.

Think George McGovern.....enormously popular among the bosses, er, political "activists," and how that worked out for the Democrats in 1972, for example, when the general public had its say.

Power to the people.  Let the people decide.

[Lauri]

thats interesting frank..

per usual, i'm learning a lot this presidential election cycle