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Offline thundley4

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Ford: Car owners are pirates if they distribute pictures of their own cars
« on: December 10, 2008, 06:09:10 PM »
No news story that I can find yet, but Boing-Boing is reliable and there are links to the origin.
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Re: Ford: Car owners are pirates if they distribute pictures of their own cars
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2008, 07:20:32 PM »
Interesting time for the Ford's law firm, if it is their law firm, to be making this particular stink.
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Re: Ford: Car owners are pirates if they distribute pictures of their own cars
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2008, 07:22:14 PM »
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UPDATE: The issue has been resolved. Ford Car Communication's Whitney Drake tells us "Mustang (and other car owners) can take pictures of their cars and make calendars and sell them to whomever they like. They can't however use Ford logos in the calendar." She further clarifies, "The club (Black Mustang Club) and cafe press (or another printer) now has permission to print the calendar. Apparently, CafePress misunderstood the intent of an earlier communication from Ford regarding the use of trademarks on other products they sold when it told Black Mustang Club it would not print its calendars.
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Re: Ford: Car owners are pirates if they distribute pictures of their own cars
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2008, 10:34:04 PM »
Seems to me that IF one purchased a Ford product and since Ford places their logo on said product, that would amount to purchasing said logo and the rights  to said logo.
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Re: Ford: Car owners are pirates if they distribute pictures of their own cars
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2008, 10:36:50 PM »
Quote from: Thor on December 10, 2008, 10:34:04 PM
Seems to me that IF one purchased a Ford product and since Ford places their logo on said product, that would amount to purchasing said logo and the rights  to said logo.

I doubt that was the problem, the calendar probably had the Ford logo somewhere else in the calendar and not on a vehicle.
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Re: Ford: Car owners are pirates if they distribute pictures of their own cars
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2008, 10:42:23 PM »
Quote from: Duke Nukum on December 10, 2008, 07:20:32 PM
Interesting time for the Ford's law firm, if it is their law firm, to be making this particular stink.
I think it is a "stupidity tax" for people who are not only stupid enough to buy fords, but even stupider enough to brag about it by posting photos of their dumbeosity on the interwebz.
 
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Re: Ford: Car owners are pirates if they distribute pictures of their own cars
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2008, 10:44:07 PM »
Quote from: Thor on December 10, 2008, 10:34:04 PM
Seems to me that IF one purchased a Ford product and since Ford places their logo on said product, that would amount to purchasing said logo and the rights  to said logo.

You may have something there Thor -- as long as the owner doesn't represent him/her self as an agent of Ford (and leveraging said logo), then "I own this and this is a picture of what I own" should be protected in dozens of legal ways, starting with that pesky 1st Amendment.
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Re: Ford: Car owners are pirates if they distribute pictures of their own cars
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2008, 10:53:01 PM »
I own two Fords at the moment, used to be three..... I like my trucks just FINE, TYVM
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Re: Ford: Car owners are pirates if they distribute pictures of their own cars
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2008, 11:17:03 PM »
Quote from: Thor on December 10, 2008, 10:53:01 PM
I own two Fords at the moment, used to be three..... I like my trucks just FINE, TYVM
Somehow I knew you would say that.
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Re: Ford: Car owners are pirates if they distribute pictures of their own cars
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2008, 04:28:41 AM »
So if I was in a Ford Fan club and we wanted to make a calendar, it would be better for us to replace the Ford Logos with Toyota logos?
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Re: Ford: Car owners are pirates if they distribute pictures of their own cars
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2008, 07:41:48 AM »
Quote from: Mr Mannn on December 11, 2008, 04:28:41 AM
So if I was in a Ford Fan club and we wanted to make a calendar, it would be better for us to replace the Ford Logos with Toyota logos?
If you made money on it, yes.  Even then you might get in trouble with Toyota.

Companies learned they have to defend their logos and trademarks, else they lose them to the trademark dilution.

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Re: Ford: Car owners are pirates if they distribute pictures of their own cars
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2008, 06:00:21 PM »
If I am correct, if you take a photo of the image, it yours, regardless of what or who it is. You own rights to that image. For example, BoingBoing and various other blogs got DMCA letters from Michael Crook for putting a screen cap of his image on their site. One problem, he does not own the image, despite the fact he is in it, FOX News and News Corp. owns them, not him.
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Re: Ford: Car owners are pirates if they distribute pictures of their own cars
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2008, 06:36:48 PM »
Quote from: Ptarmigan on December 11, 2008, 06:00:21 PM
If I am correct, if you take a photo of the image, it yours, regardless of what or who it is. You own rights to that image. For example, BoingBoing and various other blogs got DMCA letters from Michael Crook for putting a screen cap of his image on their site. One problem, he does not own the image, despite the fact he is in it, FOX News and News Corp. owns them, not him.


That's what I posted above that I would assume this wasn't about a Ford logo on a vehicle or in their pictures, but that they probably had the logo elsewhere in the calendar. 
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Re: Ford: Car owners are pirates if they distribute pictures of their own cars
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2008, 07:52:58 PM »
Quote from: Thor on December 10, 2008, 10:53:01 PM
I own two Fords at the moment, used to be three..... I like my trucks just FINE, TYVM

Somebody must like them . Ford been the number 1 selling pickup for about 20 yrs. Dodge gave them a run for the money back when they changed body styles to look like a mini mack truck. Gave them a run but didn't catch them.
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