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People don't entirely suck...
« on: November 19, 2008, 07:42:40 PM »
I had a favorite coffee mug that I used for years.  It had a wraparound print of van Gogh's Starry Starry Night on it.  About five years ago the dishwasher ate it and I have been trying to replace it ever since.

They don't make them any more so I kept going back to Gloria Jeans Coffee where I got it and trying to get a new one because they would get shipments of stuff in occasionally with old stuff from warehouses and whatnot mixed in. Several managers checked into it and told me that they just couldn't order one from their suppliers due to the way their inventory comes in.

So about 6-7 months ago I figured what the hell and asked the day manager at the mall the same old question and she told me the same answer but also took my card and told me she would call around to other stores and see if she could dig one up.

I have not been back to the store since then and since I never heard from her I figured it was a wash or that she blew me off.

We go in there tonight after grabbing some dinner and she looks at me as I walk in and says "You were looking for a Starry Night mug weren't you?"  She saw a row of them in an import store downtown earlier this week and wrote down the address for me and apologized for not calling.(I think she lost my card) :eek:

I mean seriously... A little more than half a year and she had been keeping an eye out for a total stranger and she came through for me.

I am going to call the owner of the place tomorrow and say embarrassingly nice things about her.  I'm also going to go downtown and buy one and maybe two or three of the mugs in case of future accidents.

Has anyone ever had a total stranger trash your faith that humanity generally sucks by doing something similar to this? :)




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Re: People don't entirely suck...
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2008, 07:45:24 PM »
You have a card?  :-)
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Re: People don't entirely suck...
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2008, 07:46:34 PM »
Your story made me smile. 

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Re: People don't entirely suck...
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2008, 07:50:16 PM »
You have a card?  :-)

I do.  I have two different ones in fact.

One has my name, address, phone info and email and the other one is a formal business card with my position titles and chapter contact info for the ARC disaster recovery work that I do.

I network a lot at conventions and training classes and I got sick of handing people torn off sheets from a pocket notebook.





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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2008, 08:01:25 PM »
Okay, that's too cool. :-)

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Re: People don't entirely suck...
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2008, 06:41:09 AM »
I got sick of handing people torn off sheets from a pocket notebook.



I still had to tear off scraps of paper bags, old newspapers, etc......because usually, all "my" business cards had names, telephone #'s and info written on the back that I needed to keep.
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Re: People don't entirely suck...
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2008, 06:51:53 AM »
Actually, I've always preferred the torn-off-a-sheet-of-paper sort of business card, from other people.

I have no idea why, but those scraps of paper are always easier to find when one needs something, than the regular usual standard ho-hum everyday business cards.
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Re: People don't entirely suck...
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2008, 06:58:48 AM »
This made me smile too...as I cling to my big snowflake cup full of freshly brewed DD coffee :evillaugh:


FWIW, when I worked retail, I genuinely was interested in helping someone if I said I would. I bet what happened is she had no luck and maybe ditched your card and then as she was shopping herself, this jarred her memory. She was bright enough to know you'd be back in at some point. I would definitely point this out to someone in her company higher then her since I would qualify this as way beyond the call of duty and just being genuinely considerate and thinking of someone else. God I love shit like this...like Miracle on 34th street for reals.  :bow:

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Re: People don't entirely suck...
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2008, 07:03:02 AM »
This made me smile too...as I cling to my big snowflake cup full of freshly brewed DD coffee :evillaugh:


FWIW, when I worked retail, I genuinely was interested in helping someone if I said I would. I bet what happened is she had no luck and maybe ditched your card and then as she was shopping herself, this jarred her memory. She was bright enough to know you'd be back in at some point. I would definitely point this out to someone in her company higher then her since I would qualify this as way beyond the call of duty and just being genuinely considerate and thinking of someone else. God I love shit like this...like Miracle on 34th street for reals.  :bow:
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Re: People don't entirely suck...
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2008, 07:26:12 AM »
This made me smile too...as I cling to my big snowflake cup full of freshly brewed DD coffee :evillaugh:


FWIW, when I worked retail, I genuinely was interested in helping someone if I said I would. I bet what happened is she had no luck and maybe ditched your card and then as she was shopping herself, this jarred her memory. She was bright enough to know you'd be back in at some point. I would definitely point this out to someone in her company higher then her since I would qualify this as way beyond the call of duty and just being genuinely considerate and thinking of someone else. God I love shit like this...like Miracle on 34th street for reals.  :bow:

I'd like to add that asdf2231 probably has, or least had that day, a smile and a good attitude.

I was in business for 30 years. I never went in the the places I bought stuff from with a frown or a bad attitude....even when they had made a mistake. I'd laugh, joke, talk hunting, fishing, whatever their interest were with them. The counter people, the mechanics at the heavy equipment dealship I did most of my business with would bend over backwards to help me. They'd intercede on my behalf with the higher ups to get me a deal on equipment, service and stuff because I never bitched or raised hell, even when things went wrong. I bought a lot of engine and transmission parts at a "DETROIT", "ALLISON" distribution center. They were supposed to charge me the top retail price but instead would load me up with whatever I needed and then call all over town to see who would sell it to me the cheapest. They weren't supposed to do that but they did without me even asking. I'll have to admit that one other did help a lot though. I never needed financing by the companies I did business with and I paid my bills on time, every month, which was rare in my line of work.

Most people try to get in good with the higher ups in a business. I found it better, at least for me, to work from the bottom up.
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"America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within."  Stalin

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Re: People don't entirely suck...
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2008, 07:35:27 AM »
I'd like to add that asdf2231 probably has, or least had that day, a smile and a good attitude.

I was in business for 30 years. I never went in the the places I bought stuff from with a frown or a bad attitude....even when they had made a mistake. I'd laugh, joke, talk hunting, fishing, whatever their interest were with them. The counter people, the mechanics at the heavy equipment dealship I did most of my business with would bend over backwards to help me. They'd intercede on my behalf with the higher ups to get me a deal on equipment, service and stuff because I never bitched or raised hell, even when things went wrong. I bought a lot of engine and transmission parts at a "DETROIT", "ALLISON" distribution center. They were supposed to charge me the top retail price but instead would load me up with whatever I needed and then call all over town to see who would sell it to me the cheapest. They weren't supposed to do that but they did without me even asking. I'll have to admit that one other did help a lot though. I never needed financing by the companies I did business with and I paid my bills on time, every month, which was rare in my line of work.

Most people try to get in good with the higher ups in a business. I found it better, at least for me, to work from the bottom up.
Agreed...a good attitude on both sides really goes a long way. :cheersmate: As someone who has been there, I actually looked forward to the customers who came in friendly most morning, even if they had something challenging to ask me to do. those personal relationships that develop really go a long way.

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Re: People don't entirely suck...
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2008, 07:43:18 AM »
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Has anyone ever had a total stranger trash your faith that humanity generally sucks by doing something similar to this? Smiley

Yea more than one. After my little guy passed away I was looking for a little token that I could give his 1st grade classmates, something they could keep with his picture to remember him.   He was obsessed with lions.   I found this..
Lion

I bought 30 of them.  My sister called them, because she also wanted to buy some.  She told them Andy's story.  

The little lion was being discontinued.  They sent me their entire remaining inventory, around 50 lions, free of charge.

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Re: People don't entirely suck...
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Re: People don't entirely suck...
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2008, 07:48:30 AM »
Yea more than one. After my little guy passed away I was looking for a little token that I could give his 1st grade classmates, something they could keep with his picture to remember him.   He was obsessed with lions.   I found this..
Lion

I bought 30 of them.  My sister called them, because she also wanted to buy some.  She told them Andy's story.  

The little lion was being discontinued.  They sent me their entire remaining inventory, around 50 lions, free of charge.

Ahh, terry... :bawl: just really sweet of them!

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Re: People don't entirely suck...
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2008, 07:58:26 AM »
Ahh, terry... :bawl: just really sweet of them!
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Re: People don't entirely suck...
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2008, 09:09:14 AM »
Agreed...a good attitude on both sides really goes a long way. :cheersmate: As someone who has been there, I actually looked forward to the customers who came in friendly most morning, even if they had something challenging to ask me to do. those personal relationships that develop really go a long way.

Let me tell a little one here. It's cold out and I ain't going out for awhile.

I had several pieces of equipment that had 2 transmissions each in them. I usually kept a spare rebuilt transmission in the warehouse at the dealership so a piece wouldn't be down more that a day or two for want of a transmission.

We went for a couple of years without one going out on us. But one day one did and so I called the shop foreman and said I needed it installed. Next morning someone in the front office called and said I didn't have a spare there and would I like to purchase a rebuilt one. I explained that yes I had one there, just ask any of the mechanics. Front office calls back and states again, "No, You don't." (We're talking many thousands of dollars here for a rebuilt transmission.) I let it slide a few days until I was in their place of business. I get the shop foreman to go in the front office with me and explain that I did indeed keep one in the warehouse and that "I" hadn't gotten it. Front office says they'll check on it. This went on back and forth for over 2 months while that machine just sat.

I called one day and asked what they had found out about my transmission. I get blah-blah-blah and "You didn't have one with us " again. I asked to speak with the branch manager and they tell me he's in Tennessee and won't be back for a few days.

Later that same day I'm in their place. The parts man on the counter quietly tells me, "You need to see the boys (mechanics) in the back." I tell him I don't have time today, maybe nexct time. "No. You need to see'em today." he says as he leaned his head toward the shop. Customers weren't allowed in the shop but I always went in there anyway so I went that day. (change the names) Max says when I walk in, "They found your transmission yet?" I tell him, no and he says, "See Butch." I rambled on back until I find Butch. Butch takes me on back to the engine deparment. We huddle in a corner and Butch takes out his business card and writes a telephone number on it. Butch tells me, "This is "THE MAN". This is the head of the whole company(company covers several sates and the telephone# is in Pennsylvania)." Butch goes on to say, "This is the # for his phone. No one answers this phone but him. Now, if a woman answers, that's his personal secretary and he's busy. Don't tell anyone where you got this number."

I came home and put on a pot of coffee. I called the # and got a woman, "Hello. You have reached the office of Mr. "TOP DOG" and he is in a meeting at the moment and cannot take your call. I am Miss. Ms. ??????, his personal secretary.May I be of some help to you." I told her I had a little problem with one of their branches and I needed to discuss it with Mr. "TOP DOG"." She asks me, "What is the nature of your problem? Maybe I can be of some service to you." I give her a very brief and I d mean brief account of what's been going on. She asked for my name, co. name, telephone number and then tells me, "If this matter isn't resolved to your satisfaction shortly, call me back."

I waited for the last of the coffee to drip in the pot, fix me a cup to go, and started out the door when the phone rang. It was the branch manager who was going to be away for a few days. He was on a plane over Tennessee. He wanted to know where my machine was and could the mechanics install the transmission that night. I told him tommorrow morning would be fine with me. He went on and on about doing it "tonight", he wanted me to be happy. This was the same dude that couldn't do anything before but now he couldn't do enough.

I hung up the phone and it almost immediately rang again. It was Mr. "TOP DOG's" secretary wanting to know if my problem had been resolved to my satisfaction. I told her "Yes Ma'am and I want to know one more thing? Do you have one of those little signs on the wall that says, "DO YOU WANT TO TALK TO THE MAN IN CHARGE OR TO THE WOMAN THAT KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON." She laughed at me and said they didn't allow that kind of trash on their office walls. I told her, "Well, if they ever do, just let me know and I'll get one for you because you sure took care of my little problem." She laughed at me again and said that it was her job, "...to take care of the little problems before they got to Mr. "TOP DOG"".

Found out later why there was a problem. One of the dudes in the front office of the branch had noticed this transmission (with my name on it, dammit) accumalating dust in the warehouse. Looked it up in the 'their' inventory and it wasn't listed (because it didn't belong to them, dammit). He had sold it after hours for cash. The yardman that loaded it out had told one of the mechanics that he had loaded it out per mr. "ASSHOLES" orders. When the mechanics expressed their opinion of the mistreatment I was getting, they were instructed to keep their mouths shut or "ELSE".

The next time I was in the front office (which didn't happen often) there were several new faces in there...... :-)

Modified to add a little moral to the story.

Now, if I had been a sourpuss all those years I did business with them, the hired help would not have gone out on a limb, risking their jobs, for me. I would never have gotten that "number" and I would have just been out several thousans of dollars with no recourse.  
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"America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within."  Stalin

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Re: People don't entirely suck...
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2008, 09:46:41 AM »
I'd like to add that asdf2231 probably has, or least had that day, a smile and a good attitude.

I was in business for 30 years. I never went in the the places I bought stuff from with a frown or a bad attitude....even when they had made a mistake. I'd laugh, joke, talk hunting, fishing, whatever their interest were with them. The counter people, the mechanics at the heavy equipment dealship I did most of my business with would bend over backwards to help me. They'd intercede on my behalf with the higher ups to get me a deal on equipment, service and stuff because I never bitched or raised hell, even when things went wrong. I bought a lot of engine and transmission parts at a "DETROIT", "ALLISON" distribution center. They were supposed to charge me the top retail price but instead would load me up with whatever I needed and then call all over town to see who would sell it to me the cheapest. They weren't supposed to do that but they did without me even asking. I'll have to admit that one other did help a lot though. I never needed financing by the companies I did business with and I paid my bills on time, every month, which was rare in my line of work.

Most people try to get in good with the higher ups in a business. I found it better, at least for me, to work from the bottom up.

I couldn't agree more.  I always talk to people doing even the most menial kind of work as equals, and in as friendly a way as the situation allows (if they're rushed, I'm not going to waste their time with chit-chat, but if they want to talk I'm right in there).  I have always found that even if it doesn't make a material difference in the terms (and it often has) we still both feel a hell of a lot better afterwards for it, which is a reward in itself.
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