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Offline USA4ME

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Is anyone here still anti-war?
« on: November 06, 2008, 12:35:23 PM »
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Is anyone here still anti-war?

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4. Yes, and I won't hesitate to express my views.

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26. Yes.

And if our new president doesn't get us out of Iraq quickly, I will dissent.

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82. Nope! We're All Hateful Fascist Warmongers Now!!! Everybody Sing! Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran!

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Over 100 responses and they all claim to be against war.

I've gone on record here as saying that after Il Duce is sworn in, the GWOT and doing whatever is necessary in Iraq, Afghanistan, and wherever else things might happen will be A-OK with these kooks.  I stand by that.  Will they give some lip service to being opposed?  Some of them will.  Most of them will go out of their way to defend him.  And the most damning evidence of all will be the total lack of anti-war protests over the next 4 years, and good chance they'll consider those still opposed to Il Duce using the military (if he does) as being hate-mongers and, at minimum, misguided.

IOW, Il Duce drops a bomb on Iraq, they'll cheer, I don't care what they claim they would do.

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Re: Is anyone here still anti-war?
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2008, 01:49:35 PM »
Most of them are not really against war per se, they are against seeing any money that could have been used for handouts to them go elsewhere.
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Re: Is anyone here still anti-war?
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2008, 03:03:00 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on November 06, 2008, 01:49:35 PM
Most of them are not really against war per se, they are against seeing any money that could have been used for handouts to them go elsewhere.

Or, alternately, they're against war when the occupant of the White House has an (R) after their name.
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Re: Is anyone here still anti-war?
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2008, 04:06:04 PM »
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65. Oh **** yeah...I got shit thrown at me from cars in '92...

 ...was against Vietnam and got doused with firehoses in Los Angeles. Was against gulf war 1 (another filthy bush oil war), Bosnia and Gulf war 1 1/2 (Bill Clinton proving that liberals could cluster bomb cities and cheer body counts with the best of them), and of course the ongoing occupation.

And yes... that little bit of warmongering by Obama about going medieval on Afghanistan and Pakistan has me shaking my head as well. What blows me away is how many of our fellow dems are sharpening their axes, and getting their little war dance on as well, not seeing the bitter reality that the CHANGE obama promises, needs to start with getting rid of the god damned military industrial complex, or at least making it so that war is no longer the proftable business venture that it has been since the 50's.

But it's not. I have a horrible feeling that dems are going to get in lockstep, and cheer as we go into another un-winnable occupation in Afghanistan and Pakistan. I just have a sick feeling that we are going to see the same type of patriot baiting here that we have been accusing the repugs of, if we don't get in lockstep. I just have a knot in my stomach that dems here are going to trot out the same tired excuses that we accuse the repugs of using about not enlisting or serving. I just have a sick fu*king feeling, that the only reason that a lot of people here have been against the invasion and occupation of the middle east for the past 5 years, is that the wrong side of the aisle has been in charge of the war machine; not that they were really against it themselves.

So...I got my extra thick skin in the ready for the shit that is sure to come down here in about a year.

Occasionally one of them slips up and says outloud what the rest of them are only willing to say behind closed doors, that is, the truth concerning it all being about who's in office.

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Re: Is anyone here still anti-war?
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2008, 04:46:58 PM »
Better to have a republican war for oil than a democrat war for nothing.
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Re: Is anyone here still anti-war?
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2008, 04:57:28 PM »
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Better to have a republican war for oil than a democrat war for nothing.

It took two Delta operators winning the Medal to hammer that point home.  A whole bunch of Rangers and other Delta operators dying.  Good men, all of them, with far more balls than I've ever shown.

I remember watching a History Channel special on "The real story of Black Hawk Down."  I had had a few Coors in me, and near the end of the show, I remember breaking down and crying like a baby for MSG Shugart and SFC Gordon.  They knew they weren't going to live when they volunteered to cover the wounded pilot.  And they went in cheerfully, from what I heard.

It's a testament to this great land that we continue to produce men, and women, like that.
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Re: Is anyone here still anti-war?
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2008, 06:12:37 PM »
What is with all this bullshit about two separate wars?

I see one war on Islamic fundamentalism, and two campaigns to wipe those ****ers out.

Kind of like calling the European and Pacific fighting two separate WWIIs.
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Re: Is anyone here still anti-war?
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2008, 09:08:10 PM »
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What is with all this bullshit about two separate wars?

I see one war on Islamic fundamentalism, and two campaigns to wipe those ****ers out.

Kind of like calling the European and Pacific fighting two separate WWIIs.

Dumpmonkies don't know shit about the Military. But they would be the first to beg for us to defend them whem their lives are at stake while they piss their pants.
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Re: Is anyone here still anti-war?
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2008, 04:21:42 AM »
Quote from: Airwolf on November 06, 2008, 09:08:10 PM
Dumpmonkies don't know shit about the Military. But they would be the first to beg for us to defend them whem their lives are at stake while they piss their pants.

Also, they'd be the first to piss and moan that you couldn't, due to them cutting the Defense budget by 25%.
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Re: Is anyone here still anti-war?
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2008, 05:16:20 AM »
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But they would be the first to beg for us to defend them whem their lives are at stake while they piss their pants.

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Also, they'd be the first to piss and moan that you couldn't, due to them cutting the Defense budget by 25%.

Yes and yes.
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