primitives discuss Sarah Palin's socio-economic status

[franksolich]

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Oh my.

The primitives are bitter.

TornadoTN  (1000+ posts)  Fri Oct-03-08 08:39 AM
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Sarah Palin is a middle class, average American?
   
I think out of all of the lines that she threw out last - with the exception of the expansion of the role of the Vice Presidency - the lines that were the most nonsensical and logic-defying are the repeated attempts to classify herself as "Middle Class", "Average", and "Hard-Working".

Now, don't get me wrong - she's no CEO of Exxon Mobil or a spouse of a beer heiress, but isn't it stretching the truth just a *wee* bit to call yourself "middle class" when your net worth is well over a cool million? Around my part of the country, granted the cost of living is relatively lower, but anyone making under $100,000 are considered middle class - and even some that make more than that are struggling with the current economy.

I acknowledge that her entire debate was a ready written script of talking points on 3x5 notecards - but when she came of those cards, its pretty obvious that the woman just threw shit out for the sake of throwing shit and seeing which ones would stick.

maseman  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Fri Oct-03-08 08:40 AM
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1. I read yesterday that she and Todd are worth over $1,000,000. That's middle class?

I dunno.  Isn't the cost of living in Alaska, and wages in Alaska, much higher than they are in the lower 48%?

Vinca  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Fri Oct-03-08 08:41 AM
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2. They also own a plane. Apparently that's a requirement to be on the Republican ticket.

TornadoTN  (1000+ posts)  Fri Oct-03-08 08:46 AM
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6. I don't know any middle-class Americans that own a plane
   
Maybe a radio controlled airplane, but that's it.

It's insulting to the people who are actually in the middle class to have Palin throw herself amongst them and pretend she's "one of them".

Ninga  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Fri Oct-03-08 08:42 AM
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3. She is a classless political hack, and simple. No depth. No original thought. No nothing.

spinbaby  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Fri Oct-03-08 08:45 AM
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4. It depends on how you define middle class
   
What many people miss is that class is about more than just money. Financially, they probably fit into the upper middle class--they're certainly not seriously wealthy--and they seem to have achieved it very recently. In matters of taste and education, they fall more into the very bottom of the middle class or even lower. This is a family that probably doesn't read but does enjoy a good monster truck rally.

Clovis Sangrail  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Fri Oct-03-08 08:45 AM
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5. I don't know what the Palin family income is but coming from Ca slightly over $1 million in assets doesn't mean much.

I'm used to seeing fixer-upper 3 bedroom houses cost $650k or more.

TornadoTN  (1000+ posts)  Fri Oct-03-08 08:48 AM
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7. You have a point - but where McCain needs votes, there is no way she could be considered Middle
   
Pennsylvania, Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina, Wisconsin, and others - the median family income is right around the national average. I know here in Tennessee anyone with her assets and income would be handily considered to be in the Upper class with no debate whatsoever.

Ho-hum.  The usual green-eyed monster.

[bijou]

Clovis Sangrail  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Fri Oct-03-08 08:45 AM
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5. I don't know what the Palin family income is but coming from Ca slightly over $1 million in assets doesn't mean much.

I'm used to seeing fixer-upper 3 bedroom houses cost $650k or more.

Lousy Freeper Troll   Of course he is right, where I live a one bedroom apartment would cost at least $400 k, that doesn't mean the owner is by any stretch of the imagination 'rich' in local terms. 

[franksolich]

Clovis Sangrail  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Fri Oct-03-08 08:45 AM
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5. I don't know what the Palin family income is but coming from Ca slightly over $1 million in assets doesn't mean much.

I'm used to seeing fixer-upper 3 bedroom houses cost $650k or more.

Lousy Freeper Troll   Of course he is right, where I live a one bedroom apartment would cost at least $400 k, that doesn't mean the owner is by any stretch of the imagination 'rich' in local terms. 

From old books (1970s and before) about Alaska, I'm under the impression that things cost about four times more up there, than they do down here.  When milk was $2 a gallon down here, for example, it was almost $10 a gallon up there.  And wages correspondingly the same.

This has been going on a long time; even depression-era (1930s) prices in Alaska seemed to be at levels not reached in the lower 48 until the late 1970s, the administration of the Incompetent One.

It could have something to do with the cost of transportation of goods, and it's been going on since, since, well, 1867 or thereabouts.

[USA4ME]

The whole concept is ridiculous and stupid, which is why it's attractive to the DUmmies because they are, too.

This is something I have no doubt to which everyone here can relate.  I know people who are multi-multi-millionaires who, if I didn't know differently, would think they were just common, everyday folks you'd meet while out working or shopping.  And I know people who are barely living hand to mouth who act like they've hit the lottery and behave like they're God's gift to the planet.

Only DUmmies would be stupid enough to try and relate "middle class, average American" to how much money they have.

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[JohnnyReb]

The whole concept is ridiculous and stupid, which is why it's attractive to the DUmmies because they are, too.

This is something I have no doubt to which everyone here can relate.  I know people who are multi-multi-millionaires who, if I didn't know differently, would think they were just common, everyday folks you'd meet while out working or shopping.  And I know people who are barely living hand to mouth who act like they've hit the lottery and behave like they're God's gift to the planet.

Only DUmmies would be stupid enough to try and relate "middle class, average American" to how much money they have.

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Absolutely.

[Chris]

From old books (1970s and before) about Alaska, I'm under the impression that things cost about four times more up there, than they do down here.  When milk was $2 a gallon down here, for example, it was almost $10 a gallon up there.  And wages correspondingly the same.

This has been going on a long time; even depression-era (1930s) prices in Alaska seemed to be at levels not reached in the lower 48 until the late 1970s, the administration of the Incompetent One.

It could have something to do with the cost of transportation of goods, and it's been going on since, since, well, 1867 or thereabouts.

Alaska is relatively expensive.  Everything that gets there either goes in by boat, plane, or has to pass through 1500-2000 miles of Canaduh.  Cost of living is probably the same as California or New York.  And owning a plane in Alaska isn't exactly rare.  I saw plenty of homes with dirt runways.

[DixieBelle]

They also have five kids and one with special needs.

As usual, the DUmmies show their stunning lack of knowledge on financial matters.

[Zeus]

I Betcha the price of a Bus ticket to Juneau Alaska is out of this world. 

[GOBUCKS]

Clovis Sangrail  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Fri Oct-03-08 08:45 AM
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5. I don't know what the Palin family income is but coming from Ca slightly over $1 million in assets doesn't mean much.

I'm used to seeing fixer-upper 3 bedroom houses cost $650k or more.

Lousy Freeper Troll   Of course he is right, where I live a one bedroom apartment would cost at least $400 k, that doesn't mean the owner is by any stretch of the imagination 'rich' in local terms. 

Those prices were created by the interest-only, pick-a-payment, no-income-verification bubble. Without these ACORN community-organizer mortgage programs, the actual market value of those properties may be half that, and could soon be less.