I Know When The Russia/Ukraine War Will End

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gab13by13

I Know When The Russia/Ukraine War Will End

When Russians start withdrawing money from banks. It's coming next year, at least by fall.

Ukraine will never surrender.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220893967

I have no freaking clue how this idiot came up with this

[SVPete]

Russia keeps money in banks? And can still access it? That asked, what does that have to do with Putin giving up his fantasy of rebuilding the Soviet/Czarist empire?

[ADsOutburst]

So with DU's track record on predictions, we can expect the war will actually end... when?

[SVPete]

When bunnies and ptarmigans have offspring together?

[DUmpDiver]

thesquanderer (12,897 posts)
14. That may depend on whether they are fighting a NATO-with-U.S. or a NATO-without-U.S.
Reply to Irish_Dem (Reply #5)
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 09:54 AM
I don't have any confidence that Trump would commit to supporting NATO in such a circumstance.

And Putin could conceivably see the next few years as his best opportunity to challenge NATO, because if a Dem becomes president in 2029, NATO will probably return to being the kind of deterrent it was in the past.

NATO was such a deterrent with Dem president Biden that it is when Putin chose to invade Ukraine in the first place.

[DefiantSix]

So with DU's track record on predictions, we can expect the war will actually end... when?

Like the old school yard rhyme used to go...

"Half past the DUmp monkey's ass
A quarter up his balls...
[snip]

[ADsOutburst]

because if a Dem becomes president in 2029, NATO will probably return to being the kind of deterrent it was in the past.

This is one of those statements that is so at odds with reality that one wonders if it isn’t a joke.

How about NATO starts spending the money they’re supposed to be spending on their militaries? That might make them a deterrent.

[Ralph Wiggum]

NATO was such a deterrent with Dem president Biden that it is when Putin chose to invade Ukraine in the first place.

"It was only a minor incursion".

[67 Rover]

thesquanderer (12,897 posts)
14. That may depend on whether they are fighting a NATO-with-U.S. or a NATO-without-U.S.
Reply to Irish_Dem (Reply #5)
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 09:54 AM
I don't have any confidence that Trump would commit to supporting NATO in such a circumstance.

And Putin could conceivably see the next few years as his best opportunity to challenge NATO, because if a Dem becomes president in 2029, NATO will probably return to being the kind of deterrent it was in the past.

NATO is the U.S.

All of the other countries combined could not field more than a few dozen working tanks. 

[SVPete]

In the real world, the US has continued to provide support - equipment and munitions, and intelligence - in 2025. What Trump has accomplished is making an effort to end the war and "persuade" EuroLanders to increase their support for Ukraine.

This real world is, to DU-folk, Reich-Wing, for obstinately refusing to conform what DU-folk wish were true.

[Ptarmigan]

When bunnies and ptarmigans have offspring together?

That will never happen!

[Crazy Horse]

NATO is the U.S.

All of the other countries combined could not field more than a few dozen working tanks. 

You forget that one NATO country, little European Texas Poland.

[DefiantSix]

You forget that one NATO country, little European Texas Poland.

After what they suffered at the hands of Russians and Germans in the mid-1900s, I'd expect them to be working on home grown tactical nukes before they'd allow Putin to do it again...

[SVPete]

Just off the top of my head:

Poland has provided MiG-29s, and has recently agreed not "trade" more MiG-29s for Ukrainian drone technology and to be a partner in future development. The MiG-29 is a Soviet era plane, but Ukraine has used it well and it requires no retraining.

As for planes that have required retraining, the Netherlands supplied F-16As (probably much upgraded during Dutch service) and France has supplied Mirages (Mirage 2000s?).

Germany has provided Leopard 1 and Leopard 2 tanks, Marder IFVs, and Gepard armored radar-directed AA vehicles.

Germany and France have both provided self-propelled artillery.

The UK has provided Challenger 2 tanks and Storm Shadow cruise missiles.

Again, that's just off the top of my head. The US has been far from alone in assisting Ukraine.