I finally decided to actually visit that thread. Wow.
LudwigPastorius (12,200 posts)
2. "...the military...can remove any executive, including the President, who would violate the Constitution."
Exactly what law says that the military can remove a president who violates the Constitution?
A fair question deserves a ridiculous answer...
Mr.WeRP (770 posts)
5. Read the article?
Here let me snip it for you:
The applicable authority is in Army Regulation 600-20, which addresses command function, and the command that focuses on causes for removal. Sufficient cause should be evident,
No, honey. Congress did not write regulations that allow the military to remove its commander in chief according to its own determinations.
LudwigPastorius (12,200 posts)
6. The Commander in Chief is not a member of the military and is not bound by military law.
Besides, Regulation 600-20, 2-18 "Relief for cause" concerns superior officers removing a subordinate. Trump, as CIC, is not subordinate to anyone in the chain of command.
Fair. So...
Mr.WeRP (770 posts)
12. Under Martial Law there is no Civilian commander
This playbook is written by a Military scholar and is a former Marine officer.
"Under Martial Law there is no Civilian commander"? In what universe. When does Trump suddenly become an officer?
The author is a raving looney. A couple of battalion commanders resign in California and that's all that's needed for the Provost Marshall in DC to affect the arrest of the president. They just drive up to the White House and it's done.
RJ-MacReady (366 posts)
7. I have said before
This is why blue states need to replace all national gaurd commanders who would obey trump, now.
Here's something you may not know: Governors are free to appoint their own officers, but unless they are federally recognized, they are not considered real officers. The federal government also pays for the overwhelming majority Guard expenses, especially equipment and salaries. It's all meant to streamline matters when NG troops are federalized, but it became ironclad since we spent 2 decades federalizing NG troops for the GWOT.
I don't like the federal dependency because I'm a small-R republican, but this is the contemporary operating environment and anything that fails to plan accordingly fails.
TommyT139 (1,235 posts)
30. No - just call up the guards first
This excellent article, although slightly optimistic, because it was written prior to inauguration) holds that governors should call up their guards before Trump does, because then he can't.
https://wagingnonviolence.org/2025/04/what-to-do-if-the-insurrection-act-is-invoked/
And pay them, how? What about the fact these Soldiers have jobs, business, and college classes? Don't forget the full-time Title 10 missions. Those are "pre-federalized."
After an attempt to talk sense:
Mr.WeRP (770 posts)
15. You are way off base bud.
The author is a known military scholar and former marine.
I also served my country in the Army. I’ll take the author’s authority on this matter over some dude on the Internet.
I retired from the Army. The author is a loon.
There's another point I wanted to make, but this guy brings it up:
Buckeyeblue (5,867 posts)
24. Our military isn't big enough to manage our population
If Trump declared martial law--and I don't think he will--I think it would cause a national revolt. I also think congress would impeach and convict him in the face of such a national revolt.
And yet, we're told by the left that the 2nd Amendment is obsolete.
WiVoter (1,251 posts)
31. April 20, Hitler's Birthday
Yeah, this ****er will try it.
OMGWTF (4,664 posts)
53. It's also Easter Sunday which is a BFD in the Xitian cult.
lark (24,882 posts)
35. Military will 100% back tsf's orders.
Everyone who wouldn't has already been fired and replaced with reich wing sycophants - WATCH.
moonshinegnomie (3,308 posts)
64. i went out a bought a firearm today
and a lot of ammo
And just like that, the 2nd Amendment worked.
Arazi (7,717 posts)
78. GOP is going to be surprised at how many Dems own firearms
We won't be surprised. We already know. It's called Chicago.
We aren't going to face your guns, we're going to cut off your pysch meds and transition hormones.
Historic NY (38,838 posts)
60. A peoples militia should be constituted
Those are bad until they aren't. Besides, you already have BLM and Antifa.
