When Japan attacked on December 7, 1941, almost 2400 Americans died.
When Al Qaeda attacked on September 11, 2001, some 3000 Americans died.
At the chaos at the Capitol on January 6, 2021, two rioters (using the term VERY loosely) died, and zero Congress Critters or Capitol Police officers died.
If
DU-member kimbutgar really imagines that 1/6 was anything even slightly analogous to 9/11 or December 7th, her ignorance and hateful partisan blindness are willfully incurable.
Mrs. SVPete and I vacationed on Oahu last spring, a belated 40th anniversary trip. We didn't do many touristy things, but we did spend much of a day at PH. The time on the USS Arizona Memorial is way too brief, for much reflection, but the number of people wanting to see it dictate the timing. There is much to see on the museum-memorial complex and across the water at the USS Missouri.
The museum is interesting, of course. On display near the museum are a circle of memorial plaques for each submarine lost during the Pacific War. One monument, one ship and (almost always) one, entire, crew.
Also near the museum is the Balao class boat USS Bowfin. We had toured USS Pampanito (same class) several years ago, and are not as flexible as were were then. Near the Bowfin is a Regulus missile, not WW2 vintage, obviously, but still early post-war and for a time deployed on some USN submarines.
Across the water on Ford Island, are the Air Museum, which our group did not tour. Seeing the old, restored, control tower and a C-47 as we passed by was cool, though. The civilian plane from which the C-47 was developed, the DC-3, is still in use in parts of the world. The USS Missouri ... Japan's surrender was signed aboard her, and she is a
massive symbol of the US' victory (Would that USS Enterprise, CV-6, had been preserved!). I wonder what
DU-member kimbutgar's thoughts are about that celebration of US victory.
Near the the Missouri and the parking lot for her is a less well known memorial. We did not know of it, but our tour bus driver urged us to visit it. Just outside the gate is a set of stele, one for each man lost, with the names of the 429 men who died aboard USS Oklahoma. They are arranged alphabetically, not by rank (likewise the list of those who died on the Arizona Memorial), each having suffered the same sacrifice. Very sobering.
https://pearlharbor.org/memorials/uss-oklahoma-memorial/Both the Arizona and the Oklahoma Memorials are designed in a way that emphasizes the fact that the greatest loss on December 7, 1941 was the ~2400 personnel (plus a few civilian citizens) who were killed. The Oklahoma and Arizona were 2 of the 4 oldest US battleships in the Pacific, and the old battleships mostly supported island invasions, being much too slow to steam with the carriers. They would have been useful, but the hundreds of experienced crew lost were replaced with pain and hard work.
My apologies for my verbosity.
