« on: April 23, 2022, 07:25:22 AM »
Star Member elleng (114,666 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216613325
*WTF is it with MSNBC 'talking heads' almost promising that Dems lose the House midterm?
Star Member Stinky The Clown (64,399 posts)
1. Are you talking to Sparkly in real time????
Watching Ayman sitting in for Chris Hayes.
Star Member elleng (114,666 posts)
2. symone and some guy.
Haven't spoken with Sparkly!
Septua (962 posts)
4. Is it not a reasonable prediction?
Star Member Demsrule86 (58,460 posts)
8. No...we are not losing right now. And MSNBC wants a self-fulfilling predicition which is why
I no longer watch. We need to get out all of our voters and we win. This election is the most important election in my life really.
qazplm135 (6,996 posts)
30. I mean of course we are losing "right now"
every poll makes it pretty clear we aren't winning "right now."
Now, what happens in the months to come, I can't predict the future.
The loss of Roe could inspire a lot of our voters to turn out. (certainly possible)
Inflation could quickly go back down. (fairly unlikely)
Some other black swan event could happen. (who knows?)
But both historically and based on the current environment, yeah, we are losing.
Pretending we aren't isn't going to lead to a reversal of that situation.
Hard work, identifying what our problems are and trying to fix them can.
Star Member vanlassie (4,288 posts)
10. Specifically why do you think so?
Did someone on tv tell you so?
Star Member Maraya1969 (19,376 posts)
15. It's only a reasonable prediction is every buys into it. Which is what I think they want.
If we Get out the Vote we should win.
Star Member Hoyt (53,732 posts)
5. Yeah, let's just pretend we are going to keep House and increase Senate lead by 10 seats.
That'll get out the vote.
Star Member CrackityJones75 (1,871 posts)
40. Well....if they want to continue to operate as a free media they may want to start cheerleading. That is if reporting truth and facts are at all important to them.
holy shit...
moondust (18,154 posts)
7. Stupid media.
"Historically the party in power loses seats in the midterms" is what I still hear all the time even though that dates back to the olden days when the GQP was still a somewhat legitimate political party with a platform and everything and not just a power-grabbing cult.
Star Member onenote (36,960 posts)
36. When do you think the repubs first stopped being a legit political party with a platform and not a power grabbing cult? When were these "olden" days to which you refer?
Because in 2020, despite losing the White House, the repubs picked up 14 House seats. And while just as then, I have no doubt Trump couldn't get elected, the electorate seems perfectly willing to distinguish between him and their local house member's candidacy and its silly to pretend that the predictions being made now are baseless.
Star Member DarthDem (4,990 posts)
18. They're Wrong
Star Member Laura PourMeADrink (38,073 posts)
24. Hmmm. It's super easy to be discouraged right now
About it all
Star Member elleng (114,666 posts)
28. Not for me, I don't see it.
U.S. economy doing very well, U.S. and allies stronger than ever (NATO, U.N.,) covid treatments successful, among a few.
Star Member onenote (36,960 posts)
37. Most voters don't think the economy is doing "very well."
Statistics only get one so far. Voter perception is what matters.
Consumer confidence is lower now than it was at the end of 2021. Gas prices are a huge issue. Inflation is a huge issue. And while the stock market isn't a good indicator of the economy (although folks like to cite it when its going up), the reality is that over the past few months, it has dropped over 1600 points from its peak in early January (and has been down as much as 4000 points). That gets reflected in 401K statements.
Yes there is a lot of good economic news, and several million people have jobs and/or higher wages than they did before. But all those people -- and many more -- are finding that their cost of living is also significantly higher. That leads people to have a favorable few of the economy.
Star Member Laura PourMeADrink (38,073 posts)
46. Agree 100%. And we have ZERO game and ZERO PR. Need new
Leaders !!!!!
ForgedCrank (612 posts)
31. I was reading the same BS on washington post today or yesterday. I can't for the life of me figure out why these outlets are turning on us like this. It's a critical time and we don't need resistance like this.
Star Member brooklynite (77,857 posts)
33. These outlets aren't against us...and they're not for us
They're reporting political news, which seriously does show a likelihood of losing the House (and possibly the Senate) in November, absent some significant change in political dynamics.
Star Member IrishAfricanAmerican (2,804 posts)
41. This is what the MSM is pushing everywhere.
MSM is the GOP lapdogs.
Orrex (61,019 posts)
43. NPR has been doing it for months
I know that one or more of NPR’s tireless defenders will swoop in to tell me that I didn’t hear what I heard, but I first noticed it in the early months of 2022.
They’d use phrases like “With Democrats all but certain to lose their congressional majority” or “The GOP is poised to retake the House and possibly the Senate,” and on and on.
These statements appear on multiple NPR programs, not just the flagship news hours. And never once have I heard a commentator rebut or rein in the speaker’s prophecy of Democratic Doom.
Instead, they say things like “where did Democrats go wrong?” or “Why do Democrats have such difficulty holding onto power?”
I don’t have a particular citation, but if you tune into NPR at random on any given day, there’s a fair chance that you’ll hear similar comments for yourself.
Coventina (23,729 posts)
47. You beat me to it!
I despise NPR, but husband is a huge fan and has it playing the background constantly.
They are constantly talking about the huge losses Dems are going to have.
Cuthbert Allgood (3,869 posts)
44. Statistics and history are CLEARLY on the side of this prediction.
Are we pretending it isn't?
Midwestern Democrat (647 posts)
45. It appears so. This isn't my first election - I sensed with pretty good certainty by late April in
past elections which party was going to win the House. By late April of the following years: 1994 - was dead certain we were in deep trouble; 2006 - was confident the House was ours barring a major foul-up; 2008 - was confident that we were going to expand our majorities; 2010 - was dead certain we were in deep trouble; 2014 - knew it was going to suck; 2018 - was confident the House was ours barring a major foul-up. This year I basically feel like I did in 2014 - it's not going to be a full-out disaster like 1994 or 2010, but it's probably going to suck.
LeftInTX (18,365 posts)
48. We even had a Democrat resign from Congress
We're having a special election in a few weeks to replace him with a Republican
He was gonna wait until November, but decided to let his seat go the GOP
Filemon Vela up and quit
We had a local Dem switch parties to the GOP
We had a state senator throw in the towel after her primary
Now the senate seat will be an automatic GOP pick up...
Campaigns aren't very perky at the moment.
I wish I could be optimistic, but we barely won the house and now Filemon decided to give it away!
Star Member krawhitham (4,472 posts)
49. Because that is what polling says will happen, do you want them to lie like foxnews?
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