One thing that really bugs about the Rittenhouse judge

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AngryOldDem (11,733 posts)
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One thing that really bugs about the Rittenhouse judge

IIRC, he won’t allow terms like “victim” to be used because it may “prejudice” a jury, but it’s OK to use perjorative terms like “rioters”, “looters,” and “vandals”?

Did I hear that right? This was in coverage early on in the trial, and I was WTF. It’s been eating at me ever since, especially seeing how this judge is such a clown.

TIA for any clarification.

 

Sympthsical (2,549 posts)

1. He doesn't allow it in all of his trials

So much was made of not using the word "victims," but he does it in most of his other trials, because he thinks it's prejudicial against a claim of self-defense. So it wasn't some Rittenhouse specific thing. Another win for the informative media there. It would've taken a quick glance to know it wasn't strange, but no one thought to look it up I guess.

He stated people could use the other words if that is what they were doing within the evidence presented.

I don't think the defense ever used those words about the victims. I think they may have used it against other people present. Not sure. But I think they left it alone when it came to the actual people shot. Maybe something about Rosenbaum in the closing? I mean, they did call him crazy. Can't quite remember.

dem4decades (8,011 posts)

2. How about he let's Rittenhouse blubber on the stand but not allow photos of him posing for

Photos of him with the proud boys wearing a Free As **** t shirt.

And what's with the judge having Rittenhouse pulled numbers for which jurors sit on the panel?

Was it his birthday or something?

AngryOldDem (11,733 posts)

6. That lottery thing was weird.

I think I heard it’s an antiquated practice. I guess it’s to prevent the defense from saying it was rigged? Dunno.

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3. The judge has a conservative bias.

This is what we're fighting against. This is what CRT is trying to bring attention to.

 

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Imagine accusing a judge of being biased for being fair.

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AngryOldDem (11,733 posts)
One thing that really bugs about the Rittenhouse judge

IIRC, he won’t allow terms like “victim” to be used because it may “prejudice” a jury, but it’s OK to use perjorative terms like “rioters”, “looters,” and “vandals”?

Calling the men shot by Rittenhouse "victims" assumes what the prosecution was obligated (and failed, ) prove, that they were victims of a crime. The rioters and looters and etc. were not on trial (an inversion/perversion of justice), and they clearly were what they were termed.

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I believe the defense was only allowed to call them "arsonists, etc." if they could produce evidence to that effect.

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IIRC, he won’t allow terms like “victim” to be used because it may “prejudice” a jury, but it’s OK to use perjorative terms like “rioters”, “looters,” and “vandals”?

rioters, looters, and vandals won't be called rioters, looters, and vandals if they don't riot, loot, and vandalize...