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BushCo is trying to pull a fast one
« on: August 31, 2008, 09:09:43 AM »
Obviously Palin's accursed child of incest is just a distraction:

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kpete  (1000+ posts)       Sat Aug-30-08 10:11 AM
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BushCo is trying to pull a fast one while no one is looking. 
 Advertisements [?]Edited on Sat Aug-30-08 10:28 AM by kpete
Bush Seeks to Affirm a Continuing War on Terror
By ERIC LICHTBLAU
Published: August 29, 2008

WASHINGTON — Tucked deep into a recent proposal from the Bush administration is a provision that has received almost no public attention, yet in many ways captures one of President Bush’s defining legacies: an affirmation that the United States is still at war with Al Qaeda.

Seven years after the Sept. 11 attacks, Mr. Bush’s advisers assert that many Americans may have forgotten that. So they want Congress to say so and “acknowledge again and explicitly that this nation remains engaged in an armed conflict with Al Qaeda, the Taliban, and associated organizations, who have already proclaimed themselves at war with us and who are dedicated to the slaughter of Americans.”

The language, part of a proposal for hearing legal appeals from detainees at the United States naval base at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, goes beyond political symbolism. Echoing a measure that Congress passed just days after the Sept. 11 attacks, it carries significant legal and public policy implications for Mr. Bush, and potentially his successor, to claim the imprimatur of Congress to use the tools of war, including detention, interrogation and surveillance, against the enemy, legal and political analysts say.

Some lawmakers are concerned that the administration’s effort to declare anew a war footing is an 11th-hour maneuver to re-establish its broad interpretation of the president’s wartime powers, even in the face of challenges from the Supreme Court and Congress.

more at:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/30/washington/30terror.h...
Yes, heaven forbid we reaffirm the language and actions of the Sept 18, 2001 resolution by congress. I'm sure there must be some sort of statute of limitations of something.

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CaliforniaPeggy  (1000+ posts)       Sat Aug-30-08 10:17 AM
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1. K&R 
 Thank you for this exposure...

Good God, will they stop at nothing?
Stop at what? Bringing to heel the people that murdered 3,000 Americans?

Oh, wait. I'm sorry I forgot it was an inside job to steal all the oil wealth from Iraq...which ironically you paint-chip-eating morons were just complaining about because the Iraqis have a $75 billion budget surplus this year.

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asjr (1000+ posts)      Sat Aug-30-08 10:29 AM
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4. Nothing! Just look at the distractions
 they have put out for us. A tin soldier running for president and his beauty queen VP candidate. And Cheney Dick in his secret bunker mapping out more crap to throw at us. This administration will never become irrelevant as long as they are still in office. There is still mischief afoot.
Tin soldier? The man that mutually inspired and encouraged his fellow prisoners?

And who did you vote for? Mr. Two-Band-Aids-and-an-Oops-and-I'm-Outta-Here?

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NCevilDUer (1000+ posts)      Sat Aug-30-08 09:33 PM
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19. I've been saying that since, well, since half the people here started
 dismissing Bush as being a lame duck as much as a year ago.

This crowd will be a danger even long after January 20 - which is why we CANNOT let them off the hook for their crimes.

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Jesuswasntafascist  (1000+ posts)       Sat Aug-30-08 10:24 AM
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2. K&R You can't turn your back for a second with these thugs. n/t

Jesus wasn't a fascist.

It's true.

He also wasn't a paranoid commie fag either.

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The Backlash Cometh  (1000+ posts)     Sat Aug-30-08 10:26 AM
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3. Not while kpete's on watch.
Here, watch this.

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northsongs (2 posts)      Sat Aug-30-08 10:30 AM
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5. Justification for the upcoming debacle over Iran?
 You gotta watch these people all the time. I'm suspicious that they'll use this to later claim that their 'war on terror' was re-affirmed by law, and then use it to justify an attack/blockade of Iran.

Wouldn't put it past them....

northsongs
It already is law. It's called the AUMF September 18, 2001.

And this might come as a surprise to you but Iran is a corrupt, despotic terrorist state that has American blood on its hands.

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CaliforniaPeggy  (1000+ posts)       Sat Aug-30-08 10:34 AM
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6. Welcome to DU! 
 Enjoy yourself in our crazy, addictive little village!
Meth would be a less damaging addiction and would allow for greater lucidity.

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dajoki  (1000+ posts)       Sat Aug-30-08 10:51 AM
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7. Welcome to DU northsongs...
 and you are so right about us having to keep an eye on them, now more than ever as their time is running out. Try Googling "Directive 51" and you will see what they can do in their waning months.

Presidential Directive 51 is an Executive Order signed by Bush that can give him "dictatorial powers" in the event of a natural or man made disaster that affects the USA. It will also allow him to CALL OFF THE ELECTION!! And the disaster can be anything from a nuclear attack to another Katrina to a blackout in any city to a California forest fire. 
Not to be confused with Area 51.

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AzDar  (1000+ posts)      Sat Aug-30-08 06:13 PM
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9. Can't we just tie them up in a corner until Jan. 20, 2009?
I'll give you a dollar if you try.

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barbtries  (1000+ posts)       Sat Aug-30-08 07:13 PM
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11. is this a measure that's up for congressional consideration?
 in which case i say fight it.
Yes, you repugnant little brown stain on the pink thong of life, it's called the legislative process and it is laid out quite well in the Constitution a thing the Chimpler is far better versed at that you idiots.

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annabanana  (1000+ posts)       Sat Aug-30-08 07:17 PM
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12. Sadly, we have to watch them with very little help from corpomedia.
 And no dots will be connected unless we do it ourselves.
Please, stick to your dot-to-dots and coloring books.

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libodem  (1000+ posts)       Sat Aug-30-08 08:02 PM
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15. Covering their assess
 so they will supposedly have an excuse for all the war crimes they have committed in the name of Exxon/Mobil.
The Sept 18th AUMF. The AUMF vs Iraq. UN Resolution 1441.

Does any of this ring a bell, Tinkerbell?

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rainy  (1000+ posts)      Sat Aug-30-08 09:33 PM
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20. This is so they can go into Iran. The original resolution gives them the power
 to attack any country that may be interfering with their efforts in Iraq. Robert Byrd kept saying this over and over again in his most eloquent speeches.
Which speeches? The ones on the senate floor or the ones at the KKK rallies?

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fascisthunter  (1000+ posts)      Sat Aug-30-08 10:01 PM
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21. The Abuse of Power by Bush and The Republican Party is Criminal
 and those directly involved with their criminality, should all be held accountable in the coming years. There is plenty of dirt to destroy the GOP for years...
Only the GOP voted? Not Hillary...or Edwards...or Kerry...or Biden...???

Who knew?

Hey, check out his SN. He's a fascist, and he hunts.

Oh I give up, here's the @#$%ing link if you want to read it yourself: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3884162
According to the Bible, "know" means "yes."

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Re: BushCo is trying to pull a fast one
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2008, 10:07:40 AM »
We only been at war for 7 years in a war that's 1400 years old and already they want to give up................MOVE TO FRANCE DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!
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Re: BushCo is trying to pull a fast one
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2008, 03:25:40 PM »
H5 Snugs.

I guess Skinner is too busy changing diapers to spray the Thorazine. He'd better buy the extra-strength solution soon though.
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