Help me out here: mask effectiveness against Covid

[Texacon]

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liberal N proud (58,839 posts)


Help me out here: mask effectiveness against Covid

Before you alert because I am peddling right wing talking points, please read!

I need help countering a right wing talking point.

I had three people I work with, all who never wear a mask try and tell me a new report claims masks are not affective. Yes, they are all trump followers.

My response was what right wing site is touting this. No response. I only found one on a quick google search and it definitely right wing.

So, how many here have had right wingers shouting this?

I am only going to stop wearing a mask when Dr Fauci says I can.
They admitted that flue season was far less severe than normal, but still they believe what they want regardless of facts.

Rant off

Anyone want to volunteer to share the 'right wing' website I posted here earlier today about mask wearing?  This person is asking for help and if I had an account I would help them, but I don't.

KC

[Texacon]

liberal_mama (395 posts)

3. Is this that "study" that was allegedly done by Stanford scientists?

It's been debunked. It's not peer-reviewed, it's just a hypothesis written by someone who has a very distant association with Stanford.

And there you have it.  One of their favorite go to answers.  Nothing to back up the claim, just the claim itself.

KC

[Mary Ann]

I saw a FB poll or something today, asking if you would eat at a restaurant that didn't require masks. Right down the line, my friends who are Ds said, "No way!!" (And some commented on the ignorance of those who would.) The Rs all said, "Yes." How did mask requirements get to be a political issue?

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

How about:

Mandatory mask states had no appreciable reduction in cases.

No mask states had no appreciable increase.

[Texacon]

I saw a FB poll or something today, asking if you would eat at a restaurant that didn't require masks. Right down the line, my friends who are Ds said, "No way!!" (And some commented on the ignorance of those who would.) The Rs all said, "Yes." How did mask requirements get to be a political issue?

New Democrat narrative “were the party of science!”

I don’t think it’s working out well for them though.

KC

[ADsOutburst]

I am only going to stop wearing a mask when Dr Fauci says I can.

I know it's DU,  but still I can't believe anyone would admit this. It's basically an admission of worshipping authority.

[DLR Pyro]

I am only going to stop wearing a mask when Dr Fauci says I can

Well bless your heart.

[DUmpDiver]

I am only going to stop wearing a mask when Dr Fauci says I can

The irony of this is that Fauci only got his celebrity status because President Trump put him on ChiVi task force.  Now the DUmmies worship him.

[SVPete]

lNp should double-mask with N95s. (S)He looks good in blue.

[Mary Ann]

How about:

Mandatory mask states had no appreciable reduction in cases.

No mask states had no appreciable increase.

I live in Michigan, and if Witchmer had her way, we'd be wearing 2 or 3 full-body masks. Our cases have exploded.

[SVPete]

I live in Michigan, and if Witchmer had her way, we'd be wearing 2 or 3 full-body masks. Our cases have exploded.

I wish I had the chops to show the two graphs in this post, but compare insanely-open (in DUmmies' opinion) Texas' daily new cases graph on this page, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/texas/ to locked-down-tight Michigan's daily new cases graph on this page, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/michigan/ ! While MI has one significant airport, Detroit, TX has Houston and DFW, major airports, so if air travelers are the cause of MI's massive surge, TX should be having a massive surge. I don't know the reasons TX is doing so well while MI is so       , but clearly Whitlessmer's shut-it-all-down strategy has failed Michiganders, horribly.

[USA4ME]

How does it help when the virus itself is smaller than the weave of the fibers that form the mask? It can go right though the mask. This has never been a secret.

There's been too many things we were told by "scientists" that turned out to be false for them to be given the benefit of the doubt. Everything from how millions in America would die anyway (which they now deny they said), to how long the virus could live on surfaces and the chance of getting it that way being great, to others. Hey liberals, have you not figured out that every time one of these supposed dangers gets disproven or walked back that the case is made to not listen to these so called "experts" in the first place?

The only reason I wore and still wear a mask is to keep some looney lefty (pardon the redundancy) from going nutso and trying to kill me. You libs are kooks!!

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[Mary Ann]

I wish I had the chops to show the two graphs in this post, but compare insanely-open (in DUmmies' opinion) Texas' daily new cases graph on this page, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/texas/ to locked-down-tight Michigan's daily new cases graph on this page, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/michigan/ ! While MI has one significant airport, Detroit, TX has Houston and DFW, major airports, so if air travelers are the cause of MI's massive surge, TX should be having a massive surge. I don't know the reasons TX is doing so well while MI is so       , but clearly Whitlessmer's shut-it-all-down strategy has failed Michiganders, horribly.

Her latest excuse is that the "snowbirds" are bringing it back from Florida. Oh, and all those Trumpsters who won't get the vaccine. The GOP-controlled legislature which stripped her of her emergency powers. Springbreakers. Etc.

Meanwhile, she is discouraging us from travel while she and others in her administration have traveled out of state to do the things--vacation, see family, etc.--that the rest of us aren't supposed to do.

[Wineslob]

Umm, DUmmies, your eyes are exposed..........

[SVPete]

I'm not a mask-denier. In varying degrees they are effective against the water vapor droplets carrying viruses. However, home-made cloth masks, neck gaiters, and bandanas are almost worthless, even against water vapor droplets.

Three in my family have immunity from Covid due to having recovered; two, and soon three, also have immunity from being vaccinated. Despite our immunity, we are urged by the Feds and required by the State of California to wear masks. I have a HUGE question whose answer I suspect I already know:

Where is the data that demonstrates that any kind of mask reduces Covid risk better that recovery immunity or vaccination immunity?!

[I_B_Perky]

How does it help when the virus itself is smaller than the weave of the fibers that form the mask? It can go right though the mask. This has never been a secret.

There's been too many things we were told by "scientists" that turned out to be false for them to be given the benefit of the doubt. Everything from how millions in America would die anyway (which they now deny they said), to how long the virus could live on surfaces and the chance of getting it that way being great, to others. Hey liberals, have you not figured out that every time one of these supposed dangers gets disproven or walked back that the case is made to not listen to these so called "experts" in the first place?

The only reason I wore and still wear a mask is to keep some looney lefty (pardon the redundancy) from going nutso and trying to kill me. You libs are kooks!!

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What USA4Me said.  I'm fully vaccinated now so why the hell should I have to wear a mask?

I'm not a mask-denier. In varying degrees they are effective against the water vapor droplets carrying viruses. However, home-made cloth masks, neck gaiters, and bandanas are almost worthless, even against water vapor droplets.

Three in my family have immunity from Covid due to having recovered; two, and soon three, also have immunity from being vaccinated. Despite our immunity, we are urged by the Feds and required by the State of California to wear masks. I have a HUGE question whose answer I suspect I already know:

Where is the data that demonstrates that any kind of mask reduces Covid risk better that recovery immunity or vaccination immunity?!

See above

[Karin]

TheFarseer (8,718 posts)

7. No just think about it

You can smell a fart through a mask so that’s proof it doesn’t work. Qanon logic

Actually, it's a fair point.  They just said LOL though. 

That DUmmie waiting for Fraudci to give her the permission to remove the mask will be buried in one.  That would be hilarious.

[Karin]

Here's another mask thread:

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 07:10 PM
Jetheels (385 posts)


How I wear a mask at the dentist

Early on in the pandemic I had a terrible toothache. I had no choice to not go. I just wanted to share how I wear a mask at the dentist office in case some of you are afraid to go to the dentist. It sounds absurd, maybe looks absurd, but works for me and I feel safe going to the dentist this way.

Basically when the hygienist is ready to begin, I raise my mask (kn95) upwards, so the lower part of the mask is covering over the nose, and the upper part is covering the eyes. It feels like it’s still a good seal too. My mouth is exposed and open so the hygienist can do the cleaning, and I breathe in and out through nose only. Then when they are finished I lower the mask back down.

If you have been avoiding the dentist because of covid, and this doesn’t sound too absurd and want to give it a try, you can test it out at home. The added benefit is the eyes are covered from the bright dentist chair light. I asked my hygienist if anyone else does this but the answer was no. Just me. But they are totally on board with it and it doesn’t interfere with the cleaning. I doubt that I would go to the dentist had I not come up with this strategy. It’s so easy and simple. I don’t care what it must look like either. It’s keeping me safe. And them too.

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[DLR Pyro]

If you have been avoiding the dentist because of covid, and this doesn’t sound too absurd and want to give it a try

oh that ship sailed along time ago....

[SVPete]

Ay my dentist's office, you get your temp taken using an IR thermometer. Then you use hand sanitizer. In the exam room you remove your mask, do an antiseptic rinse, and sit down. The hygienist and dentist wear masks and gloves. Other than there not being uncomfortable chairs in the waiting room not dramatically different from pre-Covid. Either LPC Noob Jetheels is making @#$% up or has a paranoid dentist.

[Texacon]

Ay my dentist's office, you get your temp taken using an IR thermometer. Then you use hand sanitizer. In the exam room you remove your mask, do an antiseptic rinse, and sit down. The hygienist and dentist wear masks and gloves. Other than there not being uncomfortable chairs in the waiting room not dramatically different from pre-Covid. Either LPC Noob Jetheels is making @#$% up or has a paranoid dentist.

Naw, it looks like this was the DUmmies decision because the dentist said no one else does it. They were just accommodating a customer while trying not to laugh.

This is 100% true. I absolutely can believe this happened. These people are freaks.

KC

[SVPete]

... I raise my mask (kn95) upwards, ...

A very large number of KN95 (the Chinese equivalent of N95) masks imported into the US are fake or defective. Would responding to DU-Moron Jetheels with a news report about this be dropping a turd in his/her ?