How Trump will steal the election in a perfectly legal manner

[dutch508]

DetlefK (15,657 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214122739

How Trump will steal the election in a perfectly legal manner and why you can't do anything about it

TL;DR The US has an antiquated ****ed-up political system full of ridiculous legal and constitutional loopholes.

Step 1:
Put another republican judge on SCOTUS. The congressional Democrats have no procedural or legal tool with which to stop him. Because, while seating Gorsuch was blatantly unconstitutional, ramming through a replacement for Ginsburg is not.

Step 2:
This will fire up the democratic voter-base. The Republicans lose bigly at the polls.

Step 3:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Two_of_the_United_States_Constitution#Clause_2:_Method_of_choosing_electors

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

In the states that are ruled by a republican majority, and which are at the danger of electing Biden, the republican legislature will simply declare that THEY give all the electoral votes to Trump, popular vote be damned.

Step 4:
The Democrats raise a fuzz and the republican SCOTUS declares that all is fine and dandy. Trump wins.

What follows is 4 more years of Trumpian chaos, as he controls White House and SCOTUS while the Democrats control Congress.

 

superpatriotman (4,914 posts)

1. So now what?

Florida will give their votes to hair furor, but I will vote anyways. What to do?

FelineOverlord (125 posts)

3. How Trump will steal the election in a perfectly legal manner and why you can't do anything about

I will NEVER accept 4 more years of Trump.

NEVER.

They try that crap, it will get ugly.

We will NEVER just accept it.

Trump will lose in the end.

 

Fullduplexxx (3,356 posts)

4. Take enough of congress and trump will get nothing done

That being said why do people feel the need to post this doom and gloom crap . Is it just so if it happens they can point to it and see lookit i told you? And there nothing you can do about it so you might as well stay home.. i dont get it

Fiendish Thingy (4,686 posts)

8. You left out several important details

Including if GOP legislators attempt to send a slate of electors contrary to the popular vote, the state’s Democratic Governor/SOS (In the case of most rust belt states) can certify the official results and appoint electors according to the laws that existed on Election Day. If Dems Control both house and senate, then they can choose which slate to accept/reject.

Also, this would have to happen in multiple 2016 Trump states that flip to Biden.

To think this could happen in a vacuum, without protest from millions and negative coverage from the media, is delusional.

Star Member Thekaspervote (13,099 posts)

14. Electors are chosen by their perspective party's. Not by legislators

Where do you get this nonsense

Review the link in post 5

And please, could you at least state this is your opinion and not mix up partial facts with what you think will happen

Star Member vercetti2021 (3,669 posts)

17. Jesus Christ

Why every ****ing day is like another like one of these pops up

Star Member budkin (4,819 posts)

30. If he tried that shit the majority of the nation would riot

We would remove him ourselves.

Star Member treestar (77,024 posts)

32. The right has us running around with hair on fire about this, when we don't know all of state laws. What state would allow its popular vote to become completely irrelevant and let the legislature choose?

This is the media allowing Dotard to make issues where there are none. Dotard makes an outrageous assertion and people take it seriously and run around thinking about it.

Star Member Kaleva (25,553 posts)

34. Only the people who want to run around with their hair on fire are doing so.

The rest of us choose not to waste our time doing that.

 

[SVPete]

Ummmmm somebody does not understand that states' legislatures have already determined the basis for how Electors are chosen for their states. Legislatures do not (and cannot) choose who the Electors will be after Election Day.

What's going to happen, I think, is that once again Trump will win enough states' Electors and be elected President. It is very possible he might win the national-level popular vote as well. Needless to say, even if Trump got 2/3 of the popular vote and won all 50 states DU-folk would refuse to admit and accept it.

[Carl]

God,they are idiots.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

That's literally what the Left tried with their faithless electors scheme in 2016.

In the 2016 United States presidential election, ten members of the Electoral College voted or attempted to vote for a candidate different from whom they were pledged. These faithless electors were part of a movement dubbed the Hamilton Electors co-founded by Micheal Baca of Colorado and Bret Chiafalo of Washington. The movement attempted to find 37 Republican electors willing to vote for a different Republican in an effort to deny Donald Trump a majority in the Electoral College and force a contingent election in the House of Representatives. Three of these votes were invalidated under the faithless elector laws of their respective states, and the elector either subsequently voted for the pledged candidate or was replaced by someone who did.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_electors_in_the_2016_United_States_presidential_election

[DumbAss Tanker]

Working themselves into a lather over their own gross misunderstandings of civics.

As usual.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Working themselves into a lather over their own gross misunderstandings of civics.

As usual.

WAS IT OVER WHEN THE GERMANS BOMBED PEARL HARBOR?!?!?

[Crazy Horse]

WAS IT OVER WHEN THE GERMANS BOMBED PEARL HARBOR?!?!?

He’s on a roll