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Do you think Biden will "Look forward, not backward"
« on: April 27, 2020, 02:50:14 PM »
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tecelote (4,302 posts)
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Question: Do you think Biden will "Look forward, not backward" when it comes to prosecuting Trump?
Or will justice prevail?

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Star Member TruckFump (2,720 posts)

1. I am so hoping he does NOT do a Gerald Ford.

The RWs that enabled tRump MUST see the consequences of their conduct. Anyone and everyone — such a Barr — who let this be done to us must pay the price along with tRump.

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Star Member thesquanderer (10,357 posts)

46. Actually, the "looking forward rather than back" statement is associated with Obama, not Ford,

vis-a-vis some of the activities of the Bush administration. And I really have a hard time reconciling that with another Obama statement, "we tortured some folks." Just... no.

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Star Member TruckFump (2,720 posts)

52. I know who said it. That's not the issue

IMO when Biden beats tRump this November, he has the ability to pardon tRump for federal crimes which are charged. I do not wish tRump to get a pass as Nixon did

 :???: which federal crimes were those, again?

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Star Member thesquanderer (10,357 posts)

56. Yes. And this MUST NOT happen anymore. For two big reasons...

One is that, as has often been said before, each time we excuse what happened in the past (Ford for Nixon, Bush for the Reagan administration, Obama for Bush's), we lay the groundwork for it happening again, since it demonstrates to future presidents that there are no consequences...

...but what is ESPECIALLY different this time, is that never before has it been so widely promoted (and by many, accepted) that a President is virtually immune from many kinds of investigations/punishments as long as s/he is in office. If you make him immune while IN office and also after he LEAVES office, then it means there can never be ANY way to address wrongs, s/he is forever untouchable.

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Star Member Hortensis (38,068 posts)

34. Yes. We will need to seek justice, but most of it may have to be through prosecution of people around him.

In a very real sense, putting the nation through the massive trauma of prosecuting and imprisoning an elderly, disordered ex- president still with a loyal following would be for Democrats to continue the trauma of his presidency, instead of turning ourselves to the future and using the devastation of this tragic period as a catalyst to create a new era of progress and wellbeing.

Any way, at best for him Trump's life as he knew it is over. There will be prosecutions of business crimes, very few "important" people will associate with him, his business holdings will be devastated, and with us in office he will no longer be bringing in income by laundering Russian and middle Asian mob money.

Republican criminals in congress and other governments getting away with their dreadful crimes and remaining in power is a far bigger problem. Congressional Republicans especially are not "just" guilty of massive corruption, routine breaking of laws, systematic election thefts, sedition and even treason (lay definition), they're now soaked in blood.

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Star Member brooklynite (60,183 posts)

3. Don't take this the wrong way, but: name a SPECIFIC Statute on which you could charge Trump?

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tecelote (4,302 posts)

5. Emoluments

No President in history has ever been so compromised.

We should make sure it doesn't happen again.

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12. How about Extorion?

18 U.S. Code § 872: “Extortion by officers or employees of the United States.

This one should be personal for our soon to be President Biden.

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rateyes (17,212 posts)

6. Obstruction of Justice.

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Tom Rinaldo (20,798 posts)

27. Unreported hush payments made for political purpose - violation of elections finance laws

Why should only Michael Cohen go to jail for following Trump's directives while he remains an "unindicted coconspirator" ?

There are even more serious charges of tax fraud etc still under investigation.

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tinrobot (7,469 posts)

37. Tax fraud would be an obvious choice.

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lagomorph777 (12,933 posts)

42. Homicide.

55,000 counts and counting, due to his brazenly intentional COVID actions.

Kidnapping and murder of children, due to his inhumane border policy.

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dansolo (5,077 posts)

4. He may not prosecute Trump directly

But I expect him to go after everyone around him. Why even go up against the argument of presidential "immunity"? I want to see Jared Kushner fry even more than Trump.

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Star Member Solomon (10,055 posts)

21. What ****ing presidential immunity?

What the **** is that!?

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Bernardo de La Paz (32,636 posts)

8. If tRump family gang is not punished hard, Greed Over People will try again. But


... In some ways electoral reform is even more important. Get rid of gerrymandering and voter suppression once and for all. Recountable paper ballots, perhaps produced by machine and scannable, but a physical ballot that the voter approves.

Ideally, get rid of the Electoral College. It is a useless relic. But that is a harder project.

So much to do if Biden gets the Senate as well as the House.

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tar Member Takket (11,528 posts)

38. I don't think it will matter

Drumpf is going to blanket pardon himself and his entire administration before leaving office. It will be up to the State of New York to prosecute him. That is why he moved his residence to a Florida so DeSantis can fight extradition to NY.

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Azathoth (3,797 posts)

63. Obama deluding himself into thinking he was being "post-partisan" gave us Trump. The message the GOP took from Obama's presidency was that there was absolutely nothing they could do that would have consequences for them beyond losing a single election cycle. They could literally run a mass torture program, and the penalty would be two years out of power whining on Fox.

If Biden hasn't learned that lesson by now, we're in trouble.

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Star Member JI7 (75,852 posts)

64. no, racist white people gave us Trump

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Star Member not_the_one (1,261 posts)

68. Late to the party, but if Biden DOESN'T hold the entire gang (plus enablers) accountable,

HE will have succeeded in doing what the turd couldn't.

DESTROY THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY!

If he does do the right thing, HE wouldn't be the one to prosecute anyone, it would be his attorney general. So he could get on with healing the country.

But NOT doing anything would cause a HUGE number of democrats to say "****. IT."

We have spent decades fighting them, only to roll over when it gets tough. "Spineless" and "democrats" have become synonymous. ENOUGH.

I have voted in every federal general election my entire life. I voted for ONE republican, Ford. I didn't trust a "christian" in the white house. Boy did I get THAT one wrong. I STILL don't trust THEM, but Jimmy Carter was probably the most honorable person to have ever held that office.

If nothing is done they will continue to piss all over the constitution, AND get away with it. Because they KNOW the democrats will, EVERYTIME, roll over.

I have had ENOUGH. I will NOT be a party to that. And there are a LOT more out there who feel the same way.

So we have two options...

Win and hold them accountable, taking down the outrage personified, sitting and shitting in the white house, and completely DESTROYING the republican party ALONG with the hate filled "so-called christians" they rode in on, for decades, if not forever, OR

Win and do nothing. For the good of the country.

You know damn well that IF there is no accountability, they will take Ahnold's warning to heart, and "THEY'LL BE BACK". The "so-called christians" will be absolutely DRUNK with power, and make SURE the republican party skews even FURTHER OFF THE CLIFF. Remember, THEY are hoping and praying to bring on "the end of times'. SERIOUSLY! They are that far gone.

I'm old. Obviously. The Boomers are still a force, and there are a LOT of us who are still true to our ideals, who didn't sell out. AND we are angry and we vote. But at some point we can accept what has been handed us and say "WHY BOTHER?"

For me, this election is the line in the sand. The party can "dance with the person who brung 'em," or I am gonna "sashay away". WE no longer have the time to wait.

I won't have to sit back and watch reality shows, I can just sit back and watch reality. And based on the previews, the next season is going to be a REAL nail biter. I have stocked up on popcorn. I will just sit back and watch the show.

I hope I will be watching the long running series on The True American Democracy, Of, By, and For The People. Or I may be watching The End Of The American Experiment.

November 3rd can't get here fast enough...

Democrats preparing to 'win' in November...
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Re: Do you think Biden will "Look forward, not backward"
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2020, 03:02:37 PM »
These ridiculously assertions and plans assume Creepy Joe is even the nominee. And actually win. So many what if crap.
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Re: Do you think Biden will "Look forward, not backward"
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2020, 03:12:34 PM »
Quote from: Ralph Wiggum on April 27, 2020, 03:02:37 PM
These ridiculously assertions and plans assume Creepy Joe is even the nominee. And actually win. So many what if crap.

I think Biden has 5 states in the bag with a few probables:

California
New York
Illinois
Oregon
Washington

MAYBE
Virginia
Nevada
Colorado

When <any> democrap loses to Trump, no matter how large the margin, the left will still cry Russia, cheating, stolen election. This is if voting happens by showing up to the polls.

Their tears on election night will be delicious IF the democraps don't push through vote by mail. If they do that, all bets are off.
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Re: Do you think Biden will "Look forward, not backward"
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2020, 03:52:02 PM »
There are a lot of mentally sick people with little to no connection with anything resembling reality.
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Re: Do you think Biden will "Look forward, not backward"
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2020, 04:15:47 PM »
Revenge on the Bad Orange Man needs to be a plank in the Dems' 2020 Platform!
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Re: Do you think Biden will "Look forward, not backward"
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2020, 04:36:00 PM »
Quote from: SVPete on April 27, 2020, 04:15:47 PM
Revenge on the Bad Orange Man needs to be a plank in the Dems' 2020 Platform!

The Demonrats are making another return to their claim of Trump being mentally unstable.

They are trying to use the fact that liberals wanted to drink bleach and blame it on Trump.

Mentally unstable? Have they listened to anything Joe Biden has said this year?  He's either insane or in the throws of dementia.
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Re: Do you think Biden will "Look forward, not backward"
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2020, 06:04:58 PM »
Does this DU-thread have a point? 

Biden's incoherent. 

What dem will be stupid enough to bring Federal charges against AG Barr?  In fact, go ahead.  Bring charges against Barr.  It'll finish the Democrat Party off in spectacular fashion beyond even now, where they're already untrustworthy to govern. 
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Re: Do you think Biden will "Look forward, not backward"
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2020, 06:15:59 PM »
Someone should tell #JoeMentia that he’s running for president. It would give him something to think about for the next 15 seconds.

And then they could tell him again.

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Re: Do you think Biden will "Look forward, not backward"
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2020, 06:20:16 PM »
" Aww come on man. if your are pedaling your canoe up ocean, how many fish bones in a buffalo?

None because ice cream doesn't have tendons."

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Re: Do you think Biden will "Look forward, not backward"
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2020, 06:21:51 PM »
Quote from: Patriot Guard Rider on April 27, 2020, 03:12:34 PM
I think Biden has 5 states in the bag with a few probables:

California
New York
Illinois
Oregon
Washington

MAYBE
Virginia
Nevada
Colorado

When <any> democrap loses to Trump, no matter how large the margin, the left will still cry Russia, cheating, stolen election. This is if voting happens by showing up to the polls.

Their tears on election night will be delicious IF the democraps don't push through vote by mail. If they do that, all bets are off.

Russia thing has gone nowhere. It is an exercise in futility.
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Re: Do you think Biden will "Look forward, not backward"
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2020, 06:31:32 PM »
Quote from: Ralph Wiggum on April 27, 2020, 03:02:37 PM
These ridiculously assertions and plans assume Creepy Joe is even the nominee. And actually win. So many what if crap.

Creepy Joe will be elected president on Earth 3 and Cankles will get reelected on Earth 2.  President Trump will get stuck with plain old Earth.
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Re: Do you think Biden will "Look forward, not backward"
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2020, 08:40:51 AM »
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42. Homicide.

55,000 counts and counting, due to his brazenly intentional COVID actions.

Kidnapping and murder of children, due to his inhumane border policy.
Using that standard, how many of those people were in stuck in nursing homes at the direction of their democrat governor's policies?
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Re: Do you think Biden will "Look forward, not backward"
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2020, 12:14:31 PM »
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Mentally unstable? Have they listened to anything Joe Biden has said this year?  He's either insane or in the throws of dementia.

The scary part is that Demonrats do not seem to care. Their TDS is that bad.
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