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this could be the most ominous news for obama yet.  quinnipiac had mccain buried just a few short
weeks ago.  this is pretty stunning.  I suppose the whole thing could flip back around, but if I was on the obama
campaign, I wouldn't be happy right now.

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Swing State Poll: McCain Doing Better Than Expected

White House, but Republican John McCain has a narrow lead in the Sunshine State, the latest Quinnipiac University swing state poll, released Tuesday, shows.

By a 44-39 percent margin, Florida voters said they prefer a Democrat, but McCain leads 47-43 percent, a turnaround from the Obama lead, 46-44 percent, in the July 31 poll.

In Ohio, Obama leads McCain 44-43 percent but voters in that state say they prefer a Democrat, 44-35 percent, down from a 46-44 percent Obama lead in the last poll.

Pennsylvania voters gave Obama a 7-point lead, 49-42 percent over McCain, the same difference as last poll, but Pennsylvania voters are rooting for the generic Democratic ticket 50-32 percent.

No one has been elected president since 1960 without taking two of these three largest swing states in the Electoral College, the poll takers noted.

“Sen. Obama needs to close the sale with voters who want a Democrat, but because of Sen. McCain’s strength at this point, they don’t want this Democrat,” said Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.

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Re: Swing State Poll: McCain Doing Better Than Expected (Quinnipiac)
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2008, 12:00:50 PM »
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"they don’t want this Democrat..."


its just that simple.


My fellow Americans, there is nothing audacious about hope. Hope is what makes people buy lottery tickets instead of paying the bills. Hope is for the old gals feeding the slots in Atlantic City. It destroys the inner-city kid who quits school because he hopes he'll be a world-famous recording artist.

What's the difference between Sarah Palin and Barack Obama?

One is a well turned-out, good-looking, and let's be honest, pretty sexy piece of eye-candy.

The other kills her own food.

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Re: Swing State Poll: McCain Doing Better Than Expected (Quinnipiac)
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2008, 12:06:11 PM »
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"they don’t want this Democrat..."

its just that simple.


yeah, I pretty much spit my coffee across the room when I hit that quote. :-)

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Re: Swing State Poll: McCain Doing Better Than Expected (Quinnipiac)
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2008, 02:45:15 PM »
Twenty years ago, Mike Dukakis left HIS convention with a 17-point lead nationally and in each of these three swing states mentioned. He was up roughly 8 or 9 going in.

Yeah, voters might want a Democrat just because they're all sick of having a Republican president, but they have to draw a line in the sand somewhere, and Barack Hussein Obama and Joe Biden are far out there on the political spectrum. These polls are significant, they will be even more so with time - the DNC should be panicking at these numbers, there's nothing much BHO can do to reverse this - the teenagers are tearing his poster off their bedroom walls already.


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Re: Swing State Poll: McCain Doing Better Than Expected (Quinnipiac)
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2008, 02:56:11 PM »
Twenty years ago, Mike Dukakis left HIS convention with a 17-point lead nationally and in each of these three swing states mentioned. He was up roughly 8 or 9 going in.

Yeah, voters might want a Democrat just because they're all sick of having a Republican president, but they have to draw a line in the sand somewhere, and Barack Hussein Obama and Joe Biden are far out there on the political spectrum. These polls are significant, they will be even more so with time - the DNC should be panicking at these numbers, there's nothing much BHO can do to reverse this - the teenagers are tearing his poster off their bedroom walls already.



we talked about it a few months ago right here in this forum;  one of the problems with being a cultural phenomenon is that we get bored with them sooner or later.  and besides, there is always a bigger, better cultural phenomenon around the corner.

I don't actually think that is what is happening (yet, at least), and BHO is going to have $150 million bucks to literally buy the airwaves in as many swing states as he wants to dominate . . . mccain is still the definite underdog in this race.


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Re: Swing State Poll: McCain Doing Better Than Expected (Quinnipiac)
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2008, 02:57:55 PM »
..When Quinnipiac grudgingly reports that the conservative is ahead you can be sure that the conservative is ahead.

They are right about one thing. This race was the Democrats to lose. (honestly it was) and true to form they then shoot themselves in their collective asses.

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Re: Swing State Poll: McCain Doing Better Than Expected (Quinnipiac)
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2008, 03:09:28 PM »
I think Hillary Clinton could've beaten McCain narrowly.


we talked about it a few months ago right here in this forum;  one of the problems with being a cultural phenomenon is that we get bored with them sooner or later.  and besides, there is always a bigger, better cultural phenomenon around the corner.

I don't actually think that is what is happening (yet, at least), and BHO is going to have $150 million bucks to literally buy the airwaves in as many swing states as he wants to dominate . . . mccain is still the definite underdog in this race.

Barack Hussein Obama is already losing ground in the "youth" vote, I think he's been overexposed already. Soros does have deep pockets, but he has a track record of backing losers, as does Axelrod. They're really not that good at "sealing the deal' at all, and he outspent Clinton 5:1 in some states he lost badly. Liberals always think they can throw money at any problem, and it will magically work.

But I see what you're saying, and I want McCain to be perceived as the underdog, and I want him to perceive himself as that, that's when he's at his best. No overconfidence, he should always campaign as if he's behind.

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Re: Swing State Poll: McCain Doing Better Than Expected (Quinnipiac)
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2008, 03:15:24 PM »
we talked about it a few months ago right here in this forum;  one of the problems with being a cultural phenomenon is that we get bored with them sooner or later.  and besides, there is always a bigger, better cultural phenomenon around the corner.

I don't actually think that is what is happening (yet, at least), and BHO is going to have $150 million bucks to literally buy the airwaves in as many swing states as he wants to dominate . . . mccain is still the definite underdog in this race.

But how long is the race baiting going to work? At some point, he has to say something concrete. Clinton, when he won, had the benefit of Perot and the ability to speak off the cuff and "from the heart." This guy has one trick, and it's wearing thin already. He can't even really point to his "new direction/change" meme because he just picked a senator who has been in Washington longer than McCain. I'd have been much more worried if Obama picked Hillary.
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Re: Swing State Poll: McCain Doing Better Than Expected (Quinnipiac)
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2008, 03:20:00 PM »
we talked about it a few months ago right here in this forum;  one of the problems with being a cultural phenomenon is that we get bored with them sooner or later.  and besides, there is always a bigger, better cultural phenomenon around the corner.

I don't actually think that is what is happening (yet, at least), and BHO is going to have $150 million bucks to literally buy the airwaves in as many swing states as he wants to dominate . . . mccain is still the definite underdog in this race.

But how long is the race baiting going to work? At some point, he has to say something concrete. Clinton, when he won, had the benefit of Perot and the ability to speak off the cuff and "from the heart." This guy has one trick, and it's wearing thin already. He can't even really point to his "new direction/change" meme because he just picked a senator who has been in Washington longer than McCain. I'd have been much more worried if Obama picked Hillary.

yep.  picking biden just underscored his abject lack of foreign policy experience, AND it made it very difficult for him to slam mccain for for having been in washington for so many years.

in a lot of ways, it was just a questionable pick.