primitives discuss seeing dead people

[franksolich]

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1285663

Oh my.

left-of-center2012 (12,340 posts)     Tue Jul 10, 2018, 09:37 AM

Near death, seeing dead people may be neither rare nor eerie

Beth Roncevich's father was in his last few days of life, lying in bed in his Indiana Township home with her and her mother somberly by his side.
Though his eyes were closed while terminally ill from lung disease on that day four years ago, laughter unexpectedly emerged from Albin Langus.
"I said 'Dad, what are you laughing at?' He said, 'Oh, we're all together.' "

The bewildered Roncevich and her mother wondered who and what he was seeing. He was even giggling.

"He said, 'Everybody's together and we're all just having a wonderful time. We're having so much fun' ... and those were the last words he spoke," she recounted last week between her visits to patients of UPMC Family Hospice and Palliative Care. "I said to my mom, 'What more could we ask for than that?' Wherever he was going, he was in a good place and happy."

Her father's sense of a final party with whoever it was — she's still not sure who — occurred shortly before Roncevich became a hospice nurse. In that field, she's become accustomed to hearing of such positive encounters from her patients — or from their relatives who describe what the patients told them.

"It's always a calming experience. I have never come across an experience that it was scary," said Roncevich, 48. "Another thing they experience is that, even in an unconscious state, their arms will lift up as though taking someone's else's hand, and their mouths will move as though speaking to someone."

Full story:
https://www.indianagazette.com/news/near-death-seeing-dead-people-may-be-neither-rare-nor/article_611eedbf-2ce6-5af7-bea9-a7887c478bf7.html

Eyeball_Kid (2,756 posts)      Tue Jul 10, 2018, 09:58 AM

1. Morphine.

left-of-center2012 (12,340 posts)      Tue Jul 10, 2018, 10:50 AM

2. I worked hospice

Some saw and heard "dead people".
 
None of my patients were on narcotics.

radical noodle (5,157 posts)      Wed Jul 11, 2018, 02:57 AM

3. My dad had visits from his long-dead brother

right before he died. No morphine.

Since going into hospice on Christmas Eve of last year, there's been three times I've communed with the dead.  But because it's all rather hazy, it could've been my imagination or a dream.  It was the same situation in all three instances:

So I died and walked over to keep my appointment with God, but my way was blocked by hordes and crowds and throngs of people, mostly males, sharing the same racial background as the MrsCorpio primitive.  Nobody blocked me or interfered with my proceeding among them, but nearly all of them were trying to touch me, jostle me, to get my attention.

They persistently asked me, "What's up with Lamond?  What's up with brother Lamond?

"How come brother Lamond talks about only black people being killed by white bullets, and never says anything about the lot more of us, tons more of us, who are killed by black bullets?

"What are we?  He never talks about us.  Are we chopped liver to him, or what?"

I then have to mournfully illuminate them I have no idea what's up with the MrsCorpio primitive, why he doesn't care about them. 

[Texacon]

I have no problem believing those crossing over start seeing through the veil before they get to Heaven.  DUmmies don't want to believe it because when they get there it's not going to be a good time.

KC

[FlaGator]

I believe that the gulf between this reality and the next is too huge for those on either side to transcend with the exception of heavenly beings who are empowered by God to cross over. This means I don't believe in ghosts. Now, with that said, I do believe that loved ones who have crossed over may be allowed to come back to this reality in order to assist the dying with the transition in order to provide comfort and to lessen the shock. It makes sense to me that people working and visiting in hospices may have the opportunity to view this encounters.

[BadCat]

Well frank, you and I have had the displeasure of knowing MrDorkio for some time.  Perhaps we should reflect on his life?

What happened to that lovely wife he once had?
Why did he wash out of the Air Force?
Did he really live in an appliance box for a time after the lovely wife had left him and he washed out of the Air Force?
Did he ever thank the DUmmies that donated money to him to get him out of the appliance box?

Somewhere in there is the reason he hates white people, and I have a suspicion as to what it was.

[Texacon]

Well frank, you and I have had the displeasure of knowing MrDorkio for some time.  Perhaps we should reflect on his life?

What happened to that lovely wife he once had?
Why did he wash out of the Air Force?
Did he really live in an appliance box for a time after the lovely wife had left him and he washed out of the Air Force?
Did he ever thank the DUmmies that donated money to him to get him out of the appliance box?

Somewhere in there is the reason he hates white people, and I have a suspicion as to what it was.

You think his wife was banging a white dude?

KC

[BadCat]

You think his wife was banging a white dude?

KC

YES!!

[Texacon]

YES!!

 


That sure would explain a lot!

KC

[franksolich]

.

I dunno. 

Since God and Reality are Infinite, and the capacity of man, no matter how smart, to see and understand is limited, finite, I assume such "visions" are a figment of the imagination, or dreamy wishful thinking.

As it has been the past year and a half, my attitude is simply to let God handle it; I'm just along for the ride.

[franksolich]

Well frank, you and I have had the displeasure of knowing MrDorkio for some time.  Perhaps we should reflect on his life?

As you know, sir, racism is a problem in contemporary society, and in order to deal with it successfully, one can't cherry-pick which parts of it one's going to deal with, and which parts one's going to ignore.  One has to deal with it in totality.

Lamond is a racist just as much as a 19th-century Ku Klux Klanner or a 20th century German Nazi was, and he needs to face that fact.  He's a hidebound racist, and he's doing himself more harm than good, by not acknowledging it.

[SVPete]

I'm surprised they would speak of Democrat voters so openly.  

[BadCat]

As you know, sir, racism is a problem in contemporary society, and in order to deal with it successfully, one can't cherry-pick which parts of it one's going to deal with, and which parts one's going to ignore.  One has to deal with it in totality.

Lamond is a racist just as much as a 19th-century Ku Klux Klanner or a 20th century German Nazi was, and he needs to face that fact.  He's a hidebound racist, and he's doing himself more harm than good, by not acknowledging it.

Oh I agree, just wondering why he's like that.
After all, when he was living in the box and begging cash from the DUmbasses, many of them did indeed contribute their meager funds to help the little racist out.

And since the DUmp is 99.9% WHITE PEOPLE, his ass got bailed out by WHITE PEOPLE. 

[franksolich]

Oh I agree, just wondering why he's like that.

After all, when he was living in the box and begging cash from the DUmbasses, many of them did indeed contribute their meager funds to help the little racist out.

And since the DUmp is 99.9% WHITE PEOPLE, his ass got bailed out by WHITE PEOPLE.

I'm assuming he spent twenty years in the service, Air Force, during which time his biggest duty was guarding the life and well-being of then-president Ronald Reagan.

Twenty years is a substantial investment in one's life; I wonder if leaving the  military causes any sort of melancholy or depression.  And it was about the time he left the service, that he started falling apart.

He's not a young man, Lamond, and he's not a picture of vigorous health.  He'd probably find life a lot easier if he just let go of his Hate.

[SVPete]

I'm assuming he spent twenty years in the service, Air Force, during which time his biggest duty was guarding the life and well-being of then-president Ronald Reagan.

Twenty years is a substantial investment in one's life; I wonder if leaving the  military causes any sort of melancholy or depression.  And it was about the time he left the service, that he started falling apart.

He's not a young man, Lamond, and he's not a picture of vigorous health.  He'd probably find life a lot easier if he just let go of his Hate.

I've never served, let alone made a career of it, but just being laid off from a job of 11 years was pretty gut-wrenching, so I imagine leaving the military after 20 years would be all the more so, even though it was probably voluntary.

[franksolich]

I've never served, let alone made a career of it, but just being laid off from a job of 11 years was pretty gut-wrenching, so I imagine leaving the military after 20 years would be all the more so, even though it was probably voluntary.

I think what he misses most of all are the chances to pick up blonde white chicks.

His uniform was probably a magnet for them; his ordinary clothes not so much.

[Texacon]

I think what he misses most of all are the chances to pick up blonde white chicks.

His uniform was probably a magnet for them; his ordinary clothes not so much.

Was he married to a white woman?

KC

[BadCat]

Was he married to a white woman?

KC

No, she was black, and not bad looking.  Major score for that loser.