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shockey80 (629 posts)We need laws that protect the american people from themselves.The american people have forgotten all the lessons learned after the Great Depression. The American people learned nothing after the 2008 collapse. We went right back to trickle down economics. Perhaps the worst version of trickle down since the 1920s. Whats completely crazy about trickle down economics is, it is impossible for it to work long term. It relies on paying for itself by strong economic growth. Sooner or later there is always a downturn and the debt goes through the roof. Also, because of deregulation corruption takes hold and this leads to economic destruction. It reminds me of subprime mortgages. You're OK for the first 5 years, after that you can't afford it and you go bankrupt. In the next presidential election I will be looking for a candidate who runs on fixing these issues first. New campaign finance laws. We have to get the big money out of our elections. The rich now control our country. The American people keep on voting for rich people ignoring the fact it is greed that is ruining their lives. Get rid of citizens united. One of the worst decisions ever by the supreme court. It is destroying our democracy. An individual tax on billionaires. One person should not be allowed to gather so much wealth that they become a threat to our democracy. Tax the ****ing shit out of them. Pass a law that requires all presidential candidates to show 10 years of tax returns. That will stop rich assholes like Trump from running for office. For some bizarre reason the American people like voting for rich people to solve their problems. New gerrymandering laws. Gerrymandering ****s up our democracy. It opens the door for extremists to get elected, especially in the house. In my opinion, The above issues must be taken care of first before we can move on and fix the many problems we have in our country.
MichMary (850 posts) 7. Actually,this isn't "Trickle Down Economics," at least not as we knew it in the '80's. At that time it was believed that putting more $$$ in the pockets of the richest would result in increased spending which would thereby increase $$$ going to the companies. This time around, most of the $$$ went directly to the companies in the form of tax cuts. The result has (so far) been raises and bonuses, and (in some cases) reduced prices to the consumer. It will be interesting to see how this difference turns out.
Ted Kennedy is the only person with an actual confirmed kill in the war on women.
An individual tax on billionaires. One person should not be allowed to gather so much wealth that they become a threat to our democracy. Tax the ****ing shit out of them.
shockey80 (629 posts)We need laws that protect the american people from themselves.
Inherent in Capitalism is that there will be winners and losers. Republicans tend to be those who want to be winners and libs are those who have accepted they are losers and want someone to give them what the winners have.
shockey80 (629 posts)We need laws that protect the american people from themselves. Who is this "we" you're referring to? You have a mouse in your pocket? By what right do you get to state that how I choose to live my life, assuming it doesn't injure others, is wrong? **** off.The american people have forgotten all the lessons learned after the Great Depression. The American people learned nothing after the 2008 collapse. We went right back to trickle down economics. Perhaps the worst version of trickle down since the 1920s. And who's been in charge of the educational system since the 60's? Who's been running the media? Who didn't teach the lessons?Whats completely crazy about trickle down economics is, it is impossible for it to work long term. It relies on paying for itself by strong economic growth. Sooner or later there is always a downturn and the debt goes through the roof. Also, because of deregulation corruption takes hold and this leads to economic destruction. It reminds me of subprime mortgages. You're OK for the first 5 years, after that you can't afford it and you go bankrupt. You misspelled Keynesian. Also, we want to cut spending too, so that WHEN the downturn comes, the deficit stays low. Further, your side knows ALL ABOUT CORRUPTION since all the nastiest examples are in Dem run areas (Chicago, Detroit, NYC, LA)In the next presidential election I will be looking for a candidate who runs on fixing these issues first. New campaign finance laws. We have to get the big money out of our elections. The rich now control our country. The American people keep on voting for rich people ignoring the fact it is greed that is ruining their lives. Two things: HRC spent more money in a presidential campaign than any candidate in history, win or lose. She spent twice as much as DJT. Second, DJT ran on this as a issue. He said he had been giving money to candidates and office-holders on both parties to maintain access.Get rid of citizens united. One of the worst decisions ever by the supreme court. It is destroying our democracy. Fine, but get rid of unions giving their political opinions too.An individual tax on billionaires. One person should not be allowed to gather so much wealth that they become a threat to our democracy. Tax the ****ing shit out of them. They pay taxes, dipshit. Look at the leaked return for just one year of DJT, he paid more in taxes than you will ever see in your life.Pass a law that requires all presidential candidates to show 10 years of tax returns. That will stop rich assholes like Trump from running for office. For some bizarre reason the American people like voting for rich people to solve their problems. Good luck amending the Constitution for that. Meanwhile, we could pass a law requiring all candidates show their birth certificates...New gerrymandering laws. Gerrymandering ****s up our democracy. It opens the door for extremists to get elected, especially in the house. Started by a Democrat, worst examples of it are to prop up idiots who win because of their skin color. I actually agree with this point.In my opinion, The above issues must be taken care of first before we can move on and fix the many problems we have in our country.
Response to shockey80 (Original post)Sun Jan 28, 2018, 11:51 AM CrispyQ (23,711 posts) 1. Convincing people to loathe paying taxes was a brilliant move by the GOP.Instead of making the issue what we spend our tax revenue on, the GOP framed all taxes as bad
I don't recall my asking that my hard earned money go to shrimp on a treadmill. Or buying off victims of sexual assault by congresscreatures, either.
You are forgetting about the ground breaking work on "Do woodpeckers get headaches" .
>We need laws that protect the american people from themselves.Of course, all you democrat idiots and illegal loving idiots need to go directly to jail. Do NOT pass Go, get thy postie directly there. We'll resume the beatings when you heal thyself.
You have a point. Someone would be hard pressed to find a more self-damaging or self-destructive crew than the modern Dem party, what with the drug use and mental illness.
When your enemy is making a mistake, let him.