The estate tax does NOT hurt the person who succeeded and invested

[Texacon]

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Mon Dec 4, 2017, 03:27 PM
zaj (1,362 posts)

The estate tax does NOT hurt the person who succeeded and invested


It's not a tax on that person. They. Are. Dead!

It's a tax on the heirs who did NOT earn it by taking the risks or making sound investments.

It's NOT a tax on the dead person. But on the living person who just gained an unearned windfall of good fortune.

Don't ever let that false narrative go unchallenged.

Oh how I would love for someone to tell me that.

Hey, zaj, wanna come ask that question over here?  I'll bet if you asked my kids that question they would tell you they sacrificed for my success.  There were a lot of times I didn't take my son fishing or hunting.  There were a lot of times I didn't get to do things with my daughter either.  You know why?  Because I was working 70 hours a week and didn't have time for it.

Also, on another note, if you still think they didn't earn it because they didn't risk anything or make sound investments for my success ... can you enlighten me on what the government risked or invested in my venture so that I would feel good about giving it to the government?  TIA.

I hate that line of thinking.  If it is something I have earned then I damn sure should be able to do with it as I please.  I worked hard for what I have and there's nothing I despise more than someone telling me I don't deserve to be able to do with it as I want.  It's one of the main reasons I hate social security.  That is MY money and I should be able to do with it as I please. 

KC

[BadCat]

C'mon Tex, you know that "they" did not inherit anything from their parents.  Look how they were raised.  Even IF they were raised correctly, look how they treat people who don't agree 100% with their liberal-fascist ideas, their parents have disowned them.

And OF COURSE, none of them is worth two pig farts in monetary value as they approach death, so they won't be leaving anything to their offspring (assuming they hooked up with the REAL opposite sex and didn't kill the children in the womb).

It's a topic which they just do not comprehend.

[DLR Pyro]

It's not a tax on that person. They. Are. Dead!

It's a tax on the heirs who did NOT earn it by taking the risks or making sound investments.

reeks of the obama "You didn't build that" mentality.

So this DUmmy feels that the government and those on the dole are more entitled to the wealth a family member has amassed rather that the people designated in the will of the deceased bread winner....  typical gimmme, gimmme, gimmme thinking of the left

[Texacon]

C'mon Tex, you know that "they" did not inherit anything from their parents.  Look how they were raised.  Even IF they were raised correctly, look how they treat people who don't agree 100% with their liberal-fascist ideas, their parents have disowned them.

And OF COURSE, none of them is worth two pig farts in monetary value as they approach death, so they won't be leaving anything to their offspring (assuming they hooked up with the REAL opposite sex and didn't kill the children in the womb).

It's a topic which they just do not comprehend.

Hammer meet nail.  Spot on BC.

They're just so envious of what others have and have earned.  I don't get it.  I see a successful person and I like it!  I'm glad they're successful.  I don't get to do what I do without others being successful, and you know what?  Those I meet who are truly successful are more than happy to share how they did it!  You can learn a lot by listening to those who have succeeded.

KC

[Texacon]

reeks of the obama "You didn't build that" mentality.

So this DUmmy feels that the government and those on the dole are more entitled to the wealth a family member has amassed rather that the people designated in the will of the deceased bread winner....  typical gimmme, gimmme, gimmme thinking of the left

EXACTLY!  And the government tends to be more in the way of your successful business than anybody.  Dammit, if they would just leave people alone we could be so much better.

Baker doesn't want to make you a cake?  Go to another damn baker!  Why do you need to sue them into non-existence?

KC

[thundley4]

It's NOT a tax on the dead person. But on the living person who just gained an unearned windfall of good fortune.

Tell that to the thousands of farmers whose children have stayed nearby helping their parents run the farms and then have to sell to the big corporate farmers when their parents die.

[diesel driver]

Tell that to the thousands of farmers whose children have stayed nearby helping their parents run the farms and then have to sell to the big corporate farmers when their parents die.

As someone born and raised on a farm, H5!!

Today, what was once our family farm is an industrial park...

For that very same reason...

[Old n Grumpy]

The song would be a lot different if they were the benificiaries.

Besides the money has already been taxed, and just because the person didn"t " earn" it makes no difference. When you are on the dole you aren't earning anything either.

[USA4ME]

Once again, the primitives miss out on the main point. It’s the American way for parents to work hard and accumulate savings to pass on to their children so they can hopefully have it better than the parents did. Take that away and you rip at one of the underlying foundations of what makes America great.

Then again, tearing the country apart and “leveling the playing field” is more important to libs than families and maintaining liberty, justice, and freedom. So come to think of it, their viewpoint on inheritance is right in line with being the losers in life they consistently show themselves to be.

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[67 Rover]

C'mon Tex, you know that "they" did not inherit anything from their parents.  Look how they were raised.  Even IF they were raised correctly, look how they treat people who don't agree 100% with their liberal-fascist ideas, their parents have disowned them.

And OF COURSE, none of them is worth two pig farts in monetary value as they approach death, so they won't be leaving anything to their offspring (assuming they hooked up with the REAL opposite sex and didn't kill the children in the womb).

It's a topic which they just do not comprehend.

I think you are forgetting that most will have a killer collection of bongs to pass on to the heirs including the coveted not so limited edition dildo shaped ones. 

[J P Sousa]

It just comes down to the Stalinist way of thinking, government (democrats) own you and your possessions to be distributed to the leaching masses.

[USA4ME]

I noticed none of them condemned life insurance which is a major way the rich use to keep their wealth from being taxed as part of the inheritance/estate. Maybe I shouldn't say anything or give them any ideas. Won't be long until they'll want to tax life insurance pay-outs.

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[Delmar]

I noticed none of them condemned life insurance which is a major way the rich use to keep their wealth from being taxed as part of the inheritance/estate. Maybe I shouldn't say anything or give them any ideas. Won't be long until they'll want to tax life insurance pay-outs.

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My memory is kind of fuzzy on this but wasn't there a primitive exposed a few months back whose father was crippled in some kind of industrial accident, the father had sued or was somehow awarded some kind of settlement that paid out on like a monthly basis?  Later the father died and the primitive child tried to sue to keep the money coming to her.  Does this ring a bell?   

[SVPete]

It just comes down to the Stalinist way of thinking, government (democrats) own you and your possessions to be distributed to the leaching masses.

Yep the wages I earn aren't mine until the government takes what it wants first. And what I bought and maintained with those wages are not mine to distribute how I choose, because I didn't really own it. Government just let me use it, and can take what they want off the top when I die.

[DumbAss Tanker]

It's a great way to destroy a family business, from farms to manufacturing enterprises to sales networks, and kick a lot of employees out of their jobs when the business has to be liquidated just to pay the estate taxes, that's for damn sure.

[freedumb2003b]

It's a great way to destroy a family business, from farms to manufacturing enterprises to sales networks, and kick a lot of employees out of their jobs when the business has to be liquidated just to pay the estate taxes, that's for damn sure.

The only things liberals hate more than Republicans is their own kids.  The liberal credo: "I got mine (well the government gave me mine) -- you are on YOUR OWN, SONNY!!!"
 

[Texacon]

My memory is kind of fuzzy on this but wasn't there a primitive exposed a few months back whose father was crippled in some kind of industrial accident, the father had sued or was somehow awarded some kind of settlement that paid out on like a monthly basis?  Later the father died and the primitive child tried to sue to keep the money coming to her.  Does this ring a bell?

That sounds vaguely familiar.  If someone can search over there and find it that would be great.

KC

[DumbAss Tanker]

That sounds vaguely familiar.  If someone can search over there and find it that would be great.

KC

I believe that was the Bug Lady.

[landofconfusion80]

I believe that was the Bug Lady.

there was that child predator up in Michigan I think that was trying to collect on it's dad's benefits too if I'm recalling that correctly.

[DumbAss Tanker]

I don't remember that one, but considering what a mass assemblage of lifetime losers hang their hats at DU, it wouldn't be surprising if several of them fit that description.

[USA4ME]

I believe that was the Bug Lady.

Yep, it was the bug lady. We got it documented in the Sandhills section.

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[Wineslob]

Yet again, those that benefit from out-right theft are the ones that applaud. 

[Texacon]

there was that child predator up in Michigan I think that was trying to collect on it's dad's benefits too if I'm recalling that correctly.

Yeah, that was colescountydem, or some such stuff.  He thought he should get his dad's benefits because he stayed and 'helped' the old man out.  Probably because it was too lazy to get a job and daddy was taking care of his sorry ass.

KC

[SVPete]

I believe that was the Bug Lady.

Yep, it's Buggee. Her father was injured on the job at a Russiaan-owned steel plant. After he died sshe sued to conti ue to collect his disability settlement. She lost. I think her faather's injury and the loss of her frivolous lawsuit are a big part of why she hates Russia and hopped onto the Russian Collusion narrative. with all six feet.

[Skul]

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.... hopped onto the Russian Collusion narrative with all six feet.

Yes