No way. No FREAKING WAY!!! Not Al, Al wouldn't do this. Not ever.

[Texacon]

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029902996

I don't give a damn if 100 women come forward, they're all liars.  ALL OF THEM!!!  Al is pure as the driven snow.  Look at the picture, he's not touching her boob!  I refuse to read the article where it clearly states she was uncomfortable because he wasn't moving his hand off of her boob so she turned to the side and took a really awkward photo.

 

These people are an absolute blast to watch them doing internet Twister! 

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 08:30 AM
Star Member a kennedy (14,083 posts)

OK, now I'm just mad as hell........an Army vet comes forward saying Al Franken cupped her breast.


An Army veteran says Sen. Al Franken groped her in December 2003, telling CNN that while she was deployed in Kuwait, the Minnesota Democrat cupped her breast during a photo op.

Stephanie Kemplin, 41, of Maineville, Ohio, is the fifth woman in two weeks to accuse Franken of inappropriate touching, and the second person to allege that such behavior took place while Franken was on a USO tour. Three of the five women have been identified by name.
Kemplin said while she was stationed in the Middle East during the Iraq War, she met Franken -- at the time, a comedian and writer -- as he was visiting American troops with the USO. A longtime fan of "Saturday Night Live," Kemplin got in line to take a photo with Franken.
"When he put his arm around me, he groped my right breast. He kept his hand all the way over on my breast," Kemplin said in an interview. "I've never had a man put their arm around me and then cup my breast. So he was holding my breast on the side."


http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/30/politics/al-franken-groping-allegation/index.html
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From the article;

"I remember clenching up and how you just feel yourself flushed," she said. "And I remember thinking -- is he going to move his hand? Was it an accident? Was he going to move his hand? He never moved his hand."
She added: "It was long enough that he should have known if it was an accident. I'm very confident saying that."
Kemplin estimated that the touching lasted anywhere from five to 10 seconds. She said she eventually turned her body to shift Franken's hand off her breast before the picture was taken.

There, even MM can read it now.

spotthebird (45 posts)
64. Does that picture show him cupping her breast?

This is nuts.

Is there any contemporaneous reporting? Does this witness have an obvious ulterior motive as the other named accusers do?

Adrahil (10,890 posts)
65. Did you see the pic DSB? No boob grabbing. NT

LisaL (29,978 posts)
33. This particular photo doesn't show any wrongdoing.

His hand is on her back and nowhere near her breast.

spotthebird (45 posts)
66. None of the photos confirm a thing,

some show Franken and the accuser might have been in the same frame, but that's it.

LisaL (29,978 posts)
20. How would he even be able to get to her breast, based on the photo?

Would he have go under her arm or over her arm? Certainly she looks totally fine and smiling in the photo, without a hint that anything is off.

 

ON and ON it goes.  It's either not in the picture, or it's because she's a Trump supporter. 

KC

[Texacon]

Oh, and DUmmies, it's good to know we now must have photographic proof of any sexual improprieties.  I'll remember that.

Hey, can any of y'all shoot me the pictures of Trump sexually assaulting or abusing anyone, or Moore?  Just interested to see if you have something in your files I don't have in mine.  If you can't produce a picture of it happening, guess what ... it didn't happen.  Your rules, not mine.

KC

[Texacon]

Here's an interesting one.  One that read the same part I posted, but this DUmmie stops short of posting the whole thing.  Wonder why?  Let's take a look!

Nanjeanne (2,294 posts)
82. I understand the fear and intimidation victims of sexual harrassment feel and how, especially when

working with or for men, a sense of being powerless can freeze a woman from confronting the abuser. But this Franken stuff has me completely confused. If, what this woman says is true - and he kept his hand all the way over her breast -- why the hell did she not immediately say "Al take your freaking hand off my breast right now"? Or more politely, "Hey Al, I think you missed my shoulder" - or even moved away from him and not take the photo?

She didn't work for him. She was in a public place with people milling around. There was a photographer pointing a camera right at her when his hand was on her breast. Why freeze up and submit to inappropriate groping? I know I can't speak for all women - or how women "should" behave when faced with this - but jeez -- this woman was not in any way powerless to confront a man who she says is behaving inappropriately. Of course, that's if one is going to believe this story. Which I have a hard time doing. And this goes for the other accuser - the one who's husband was standing there taking the picture while she supposedly was groped. Very very odd and, for me, these accusations really diminish the real assaults and harrassment that real victims face.

No, I don't guess you do understand how they can freeze up ... unless they're a democrat telling a story or something.

And why didn't you post the rest of her quote.  Sounds like she DID do the polite thing, she TURNED AWAY so he couldn't grab her breast, you moron.  And she was embarrassed.  Jeeze.  Blame the victims much?  Wonder why it's taking these woman so long to come forward?  Read some of the trash y'all are posting and get back to me on that.

KC

[Happy Fun Ball]

[67 Rover]

Should have used her Ka-bar to remove his hand.   

Between the third and fourth rib would have worked as well.

[SVPete]

It just be rainin' shoes on Al Franken. I'm sure no amount of dropping shoes could fill the Egyptian River many/most DU-folk are swimming in.

[Delmar]

Response to still_one (Reply #59)Thu Nov 30, 2017, 10:24 AM
Star Member Demsrule86 (17,732 posts)
73. That is not what he said. I believe the women making these claims are lying and

Last edited Thu Nov 30, 2017, 11:02 AM - Edit history (2)

part of a right wing plot to take down an effective Democrat. The women involved will be required to testify under oath and about who they talked to etc. They could be charged with perjury. I wonder how many of them will do this...and I wonder if some will simply retract their statements. Franken has taken thousands of pictures; clearly this is GOP Bullshit and those Dems that pile on are complicit and only help the GOP. None of the previous Hannity engineered bullshit worked, I doubt this will.

The women aren't going to be required to testify.  That's preposterous.  After Frankenstein resigns, the women get to just fade back into obscurity. 

I never heard another peep out of David Axelrod's neighbor lady after she torpedoed Herman Cain's presidential campaign back in 2012.

Choke on that, lurking shitgibbons.

Like Texacon said, your rules not mine.

[thundley4]

The women aren't going to be required to testify.  That's preposterous.  After Frankenstein resigns, the women get to just fade back into obscurity. 

I never heard another peep out of David Axelrod's neighbor lady after she torpedoed Herman Cain's presidential campaign back in 2012.

Choke on that, lurking shitgibbons.

Like Texacon said, your rules not mine.

The left's tactic has always been to bring out accusers that the statute of limitations has expired. That means no legal investigation is done.

73. That is not what he said. I believe the women making these claims are lying and


part of a right wing plot to take down an effective Democrat.

Franken hasn't been that effective. He cosponsors lots of bills but doesn't originate very many. He likes to jump on the bandwagon after other people put their names on bills.

[FiddyBeowulf]

The left's tactic has always been to bring out accusers that the statute of limitations has expired. That means no legal investigation is done.

Franken hasn't been that effective. He cosponsors lots of bills but doesn't originate very many. He likes to jump on the bandwagon after other people put their names on bills.

He is a less manly version of Sen. Tammy Baldwin from WI.

[Old n Grumpy]

He is just another slimy democrat that needs to pay for his misdeeds.

[SVPete]

Star Member Demsrule86 (17,732 posts)
73. That is not what he said. I believe the women making these claims are lying and

Last edited Thu Nov 30, 2017, 11:02 AM - Edit history (2)

part of a right wing plot to take down an effective Democrat. The women involved will be required to testify under oath and about who they talked to etc. They could be charged with perjury. I wonder how many of them will do this...and I wonder if some will simply retract their statements. ...

As Delmar pointed out, DU-moron Demsrule86 is mistaken that the women will be forced to testify under oath. Given how victim-blaming, -shaming, and -attacking would look to normal American, DU-moron Demsrule86 should be glad of that.

[USA4ME]

Here's an interesting one.  One that read the same part I posted, but this DUmmie stops short of posting the whole thing.  Wonder why?  Let's take a look!

No, I don't guess you do understand how they can freeze up ... unless they're a democrat telling a story or something.

And why didn't you post the rest of her quote.  Sounds like she DID do the polite thing, she TURNED AWAY so he couldn't grab her breast, you moron.  And she was embarrassed.  Jeeze.  Blame the victims much?  Wonder why it's taking these woman so long to come forward?  Read some of the trash y'all are posting and get back to me on that.

KC

Good catch and I agree. If this were one of us at their site trying to defend the same accusations against a R that are being made against Franken, and we used a line like “why didn’t she just object”, they would jump all over us, including this Nanjeanne primitive.

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[Wineslob]

So saying "grab em by the pu$$y" is MUCH worse than actually grabbing boobs...................