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Star Member lindysalsagal (6,582 posts) https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029791995I, for one, am glad Bowe Bergdahl isn't going into prison. I didn't want to feellike my representative government did that to him after sending him to hell. Ok, I'm not a military person: My family isn't a military family. I know my opinion doesn't matter. I know I may not understand the implications, etc. But the guy was already in a cage for 4 years, and that should be enough. Really. Seriously. And he'll have a hard time getting on with his life, anyway. Personally, I doubt his release would change any other soldier's decisions at all. This is not going to function as an incentive for or against anything. None of us knows what was going on in his mind when he went over the line, but I'm going to assume he really wasn't in his right mind and wasn't intending to do anything to anyone. War breaks people. I'm sorry for the damage it causes those who serve. Call me a softie, I'm relieved he's going home today. And I'm glad the idiot in the white house can't change it. http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/03/politics/bowe-bergdahl-sentenced/index.html50
Star Member Wellstone ruled (13,499 posts) 2. First thing first,the Military Justice System worked despite negative influence from the so called Commander in Chief.
thegoose (260 posts) 5. Me tooNo one really knows if or how he "deserted," but he for sure had been tortured long enough. Donnie Dump can crow all he wants about the injustice, but he's the one who needs to be locked up for traitorous actions against the United States, for God's sake!!!
Baconator (863 posts) 8. I'm military...... and from a military family. I didn't want him tortured or shot like some of my internet veteran peers were hoping. I do think he needed to serve a lengthy prison sentence as a consequence for his actions. Missions didn't happen and Afghans and Western partners were injured or killed because of his decision. When the enemy knows we are spending all of our time, assets and personnel to look for a missing person...? It's an all you can eat buffet. I've seen it two or three times. On another related note. I believe once he gets his dishonorable discharge, he loses all medical benefits. I absolutely believe that his body is severely ****ed up from 5 years on an Afghan diet with confinement and possible torture. He might end up wishing he'd gotten those years and some decent medical care. Last point... I also recognize the responsibility that DoD has in trying to screen out turds like this. He shouldn't have made it past Week 1 of basic. The reality is that some will fall through the cracks and sometimes they ended causing enormous problems on an international scale.
elmac (2,812 posts) 12. when u have a criminal and traitor running the countryI can see why the judge didn't throw the book at someone for desertion. Glad he can now get on with his life, I hope the soldiers who were wounded while looking for him can forgive him.
sandensea (2,097 posts) 15. Same here.Yes, it may have been unbecoming of an officer - but who among us wouldn't crack in a situation like that. Besides: if we jailed Bergdahl, what should we do with the thieving miscreants who sent him - and hundreds of thousands more - to war in the first place?
TomSlick (522 posts) 37. One thing the dishonorable discharge does is to guarantee an appeal.Rachel was suggesting last night that Trump continuing to pop-off - that he continues to attempt to exert unlawful command influence - will taint the appeal process just like the Trump comments pre-sentence tainted the court-martial. I can make the argument that the convening authority (the general officer that ordered the court-martial) ought to at least state in his action that he considered the attempt at unlawful command influence by the Commander-in-Chief. It might be a good idea for the convening authority to consider the on-going unlawful command influence by the C-in-C as a matter in mitigation and reduce the sentence to a bad conduct discharge. I'm not sure the Army Court will think it is capable of being influenced by Trump's continued statements but all the judges are Army officers and it doesn't look good. I can see the Army Court overturning the DD much like the military judge didn't adjudge confinement. If I was the appellate defense counsel, I would argue unlawful command influence in the appellate process at least as far up as the Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces. The judges in CAAF are civilians with long-term appointments. The argument might fly there. If nothing else, Trump continuing to pop-off is going to make more work for Army JAGs.
Star Member Demsrule86 (16,852 posts) 25. I grew up in a military family...and I agree with you.The guy wandered off...it happens all the time in the military...rarely do folks go to jail for this...and he was punished enough for his mistake-punished more really. My sis once dated a guy who jumped ship (Navy) in Hawaii...of course the old man tossed him out of the house when he learned of this...and the guy had a van...dealbreaker with my Dad.
Star Member lindysalsagal (6,582 posts) https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029791995I, for one, am glad Bowe Bergdahl isn't going into prison. I didn't want to feellike my representative government did that to him after sending him to hell.Ok, I'm not a military person: My family isn't a military family. I know my opinion doesn't matter. I know I may not understand the implications, etc.
Speaking as a veteran , may you and your miserable family rot in hell for all eternity and then some. People DIED looking for this miserable deserting piece of shit. the magic negro let loose 5 terrorists for him. how many people will die for his actions. There is no room for sympathy for a human piece of garbage like him or you.
Feb 06, 2013MALIGNANT NARCISSIST THAT INSTILLS FEELINGS OF UNCONFORTABILITY IN ALL WHO COME IN CONTACT WITH HER. INCOMPETENT AS A TEACHER AND MUSICIAN COUPLED WITH EXTREMELY POOR PEOPLE SKILLS SHE CREATES AN ENVIRONMENT OF TOXICITY FOR HER STUDENTS. NEEDS HELP FOR HER NPD ALTHOUGH A LITTLE NEOGYN WOULDN"T HURT EITHER.
