Bump Stocks Reportedly Flying Off The Shelves. Everyone Now Wants A Machine Gu.

[Texacon]

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029675234#post5

This whole thread is full of stupid.  I know, I know, it's a gun thread at DU and they know very little to nothing about the subject, but they damn sure like to pretend they do.

Thu Oct 5, 2017, 02:01 AM
TheMastersNemesis (8,305 posts)

Bump Stocks Reportedly Flying Off The Shelves. Everyone Now Wants A Machine Gu.


CBS news was reporting tonight that "bump stocks" are now in very high demand Gun shops are selling out of them.

What the F is wrong with this country?

Orrex (56,579 posts)
13. Yes. Fear is the unifying characteristic of all gun advocates.

It is painfully obvious in every word out of their mouths. They are TERRIFIED, and only their precious, precious guns can protect them.

Someone will break into their house to steal their precious, precious guns.

The jackbooted gubmint will kick down their door and seize their precious, precious guns.

Someone dangerous element of society wants to kill them, so they need more precious, precious guns.

The terror and the paranoia are on full display after every weekly mass shooting. It would be pathetic and predictable if it didn't result in thousands of deliberate deaths annually.

Yes, we're the ones terrified of everything ... have you read any of DU's threads?  Y'all are too scared to leave your house because it might rain and that would be a terrible calamity.

dweller (12,612 posts)
3. chaos is coming

thanks you orange dotard 

invest in body armor
stay at home
****ing hide
making amerka fear again 😑

See, you only had to look down a couple of posts to see who the real fraidy cats are ...

Demtexan (944 posts)
4. Hope we do not have a repeat.

This country has gone crazy.

Now hotels will want to check your bags when you check in.

Oh no!!  You mean you may be inconvenienced over something you didn't do?!  Wonder how gun owners feel every time some stupid ass pulls this crap like in Vegas?

roamer65 (12,623 posts)
5. Reinstatement of the assault weapons ban with a new twist.

You have 1 year to turn them all in and if you don't, you become a felon.

If we still had the AWB, good chance the LV massacre would not have happened.

And this is why we don't want you goons in power.  ONE person did this, so you want to BAN everything.  But, you don't want all the muslims measured the same way ...

Adrahil (10,643 posts)
12. No offense, but that last bit is BS.

The last Assault Weapons ban was close to useless. It mainly banned cosmetic fewtures. It did not touch the core functionality of the weapon itself. The oNe thing the old AWB did do was ban large capacity mags, though it grandfathered in old ones. So the killer would not have been able tomget the 100 round mags he used.... he would have had to settle for grandfathered 30 round mags which might have saved a couple lives as he would have to change the magazine more frequently, but that's it.

This is why it is essential that these laws be crafted by people who actually now what they are talking about.

The new California ban Is kore effective, though it's not impossible to mod one of those to function with a replaceable magazine.

Star Member treestar (68,128 posts)
24. the people who actually know what they are

talking about are generally going to be the ones who don't want anything banned. Are there people who know a lot about guns who are willing to come up with these regulations?

DUH!  Because they know it WILL NOT WORK, and then the next time it happens you just want to ban something else.  Loser.

There's plenty more to wade through over there.  It's all stupid.  All of it.

KC

[Old n Grumpy]

Actually people really don't want them . But knowing having one makes a liberals head explode folks are buying them.

[Texacon]

Actually people really don't want them . But knowing having one makes a liberals head explode folks are buying them.

This is true.  The fastest way to sell something is to claim you'll never be able to buy another one again in the history of the universe!!!

 

KC

[Old n Grumpy]

dweller (12,612 posts)
3. chaos is coming

thanks you orange dotard

invest in body armor
stay at home
****ing hide
making amerka fear again 😑

Buy a bump stock and keep a liberal off the street. I love it!!!

[DumbAss Tanker]

This is true.  The fastest way to sell something is to claim you'll never be able to buy another one again in the history of the universe!!!

 

KC

Exactly.  Personally I regard them as a silly toy, useless for anything but burning money and making noise, the only practical use for them is pretty much what the shooter did, ambush from a clean location.  Their functionality is fundamentally fragile and not something suitable as a tactical weapon. 

[Undies]

Up until yesterday, the DUmmies thought "Bump Stocks" were something gayboy dancer wore on stage at the Butt, Sir! Club downtown.

[Old n Grumpy]

What really frustrates me is that after listening to several days of talking heads and so called experts, no one has really explained what this item is and how it works. They just claim it converts an AR into a machine gun which it does not do. The definition of a machine gun is a weapon that fires more than one shot with a trigger pull. This item does not change the semi auto configuration of the rifle, it only aids in manipulating the trigger for simulated automatic fire, the rifle still only produces one shot per trigger pull.

There are other accessories out there , binary triggers and crank fires that do the same thing. They also refer to the bipods on the guns as tripods, they really have no idea what they are talking about. 

[Ptarmigan]

'Bump stock' rifle modifiers green-lighted by Obama administration
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/05/bump-stock-rifle-modifiers-green-lighted-by-obama-administration.html

So-called 'bump stock' recoil devices like the ones used by the Las Vegas gunman, were first approved under the Obama administration's Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.

In June, 2010, about 18 months into Obama’s first term, the ATF issued an opinion letter to stock manufacturer Slide Fire on the company's after-market device. The bureau gave the company approval, according to the Media Research Center.

“The stock has no automatically functioning mechanical parts or springs and performs no automatic mechanical function when installed,” reads the letter dated June 7, 2010. “In order to use the installed device, the shooter must apply constant forward pressure with the non-shooting hand and constant rearward pressure with the shooting hand. Accordingly, we find that the “bump-stock” is a firearm part and is not regulated as a firearm under Gun Control Act or the National Firearms Act.”

Bump stocks approved by the Obama Administration.

[freedumb2003b]

They are a silly device that are just a mechanical trigger pull that slips over the stock.  Very few people use them b/c they cause the gun to drift so much that they are banned at most gun ranges.  They are no faster than a trigger pull and you can also get what is called a "binary trigger" that will accomplish the same thing with more accuracy.

Once they are outlawed, there will simple home kits to take their place or other faster ways to pull the trigger will emerge.  Heck if you wanted to do what that evil ahole did, you could probably rig up a quick trigger pull with a tripod and some springs and wire.

[FunkyZero]

They are a silly device that are just a mechanical trigger pull that slips over the stock.  Very few people use them b/c they cause the gun to drift so much that they are banned at most gun ranges.  They are no faster than a trigger pull and you can also get what is called a "binary trigger" that will accomplish the same thing with more accuracy.

Once they are outlawed, there will simple home kits to take their place or other faster ways to pull the trigger will emerge.  Heck if you wanted to do what that evil ahole did, you could probably rig up a quick trigger pull with a tripod and some springs and wire.

It really is a foolish display they are putting on.
Ok, I'll admit it. when I saw the pictures that were leaked, I immediately ordered some of these because I saw what was coming. An  hour later, not a single one could be found online. I've played with one before in the past... and yea, it was fun. For a few minutes. Then you ask why you would ever want to actually leave it on your rifle. A little practice and you don't even need the stock to do the same thing.
I remember dad having one years ago, he ordered for a 10/22. But it was just a trigger crank. As stupid as that thing was, it worked better than a bump-fire method.
Now I wake up this morning to the tannerite scare and it's all already sold out everywhere you look. Now THIS stuff is a lot of fun. I have about 10 pounds of it left in the barn. I actually will miss this stuff if they manage to ban sales. It's a riot.

[SVPete]

It really is a foolish display they are putting on.
Ok, I'll admit it. when I saw the pictures that were leaked, I immediately ordered some of these because I saw what was coming. An  hour later, not a single one could be found online. I've played with one before in the past... and yea, it was fun. For a few minutes. Then you ask why you would ever want to actually leave it on your rifle. A little practice and you don't even need the stock to do the same thing.
I remember dad having one years ago, he ordered for a 10/22. But it was just a trigger crank. As stupid as that thing was, it worked better than a bump-fire method.
Now I wake up this morning to the tannerite scare and it's all already sold out everywhere you look. Now THIS stuff is a lot of fun. I have about 10 pounds of it left in the barn. I actually will miss this stuff if they manage to ban sales. It's a riot.

It's probably a, "Oh @#$%! I better get one/some before they ban it!" kind of phenomenon.

[BadCat]

Wonder if they want to ban "cook off" rounds?

[67 Rover]

Wonder if they want to ban "cook off" rounds?

I have seen some worn M1A's slam fire and then proceed to cycle through the 20rd mag.  A floating firing pin that is heavy enough would be a work around to a bump stock ban.

[Drafe Hoblin]

The time that an average law-abiding gun-enthusiast would realistically draw some novelty in firing a machine-gun per year... about 3-minutes. 

There's no great target-hitting attraction vs. the cost of ammo. 

" Wanna go down 'n shoot an old rowboat? "
" I'll go down and drink a beer... "

[J P Sousa]

These are fun times.

[Old n Grumpy]

It really is a foolish display they are putting on.

That's their job, instead of doing their job they jump up and down raging that something needs to be done and all this shouldn't be allowed to happen etc. In reality they are all full of shit, it will all go away in a couple of days when some new "crissi" comes up.

[DumbAss Tanker]

I have seen some worn M1A's slam fire and then proceed to cycle through the 20rd mag.  A floating firing pin that is heavy enough would be a work around to a bump stock ban.

Unlike bump stocks, if the ATFE catches you with a slamfire gun, you're in the deep stuff with them, even if it's a defective part you might not even know about.

[FunkyZero]

Unlike bump stocks, if the ATFE catches you with a slamfire gun, you're in the deep stuff with them, even if it's a defective part you might not even know about.

ATF don't screw around man, it's no joke. I'd rather get caught with heroin or something.
Dad pumped me so full of fear on this subject, I swear I'm even uncomfortable just talking about those sorts of violations.
Growing up around it, gunsmiths, weekends at the clay club,  and bench rest shooting on off days, always around these sort of guys... this was a taboo subject that would bring a scowl if even mentioned out loud. these are the guys that were all guns, all the time... and breaking a rule was the equivalent of insulting their mother.