Got a call from my friends, GOP Christians who are NOW terrified of Obama

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themartyred  (1000+ posts)        Sat Aug-16-08 06:29 PM
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Got a call from my friends out West, who are GOP Christians who are NOW terrified of Obama 
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And before I get to what they said, it is of extreme note - that we have one of the major party candidates directly insinuating the other party's candidate is - the antichrist - and does it by proclaiming that Obama believes, as does his 'followers' that he is 'THE ONE' - 'THE MESSIAH' - 'THE 2ND COMING', and even gives imagery in an ad of a biblical nature. These comments are familiar to many of us on DU as being the tactics of another candidates most unruly backers who probably are part of PUMA now, but to see them employed directly by the McCain campaign, is nothing short of breathtaking.

These actions by the GOP stoke REAL fears in millions who aren't very strong in their faith (why fear if you believe GOD will rapture you away from the antichrist as most Christians believe?), nor understand that even if Obama were to turn out to be the antichrist - would there be any way to stop GOD'S plan? Of course not, but let's not be rational here, it's too fun to be unstable and tear apart the man as a threat to humanity, without admitting a lot of the fear is clearly because of his color and his full name.

So, to the contact from my old friends - I received a detailed plea in an email from two Republican friends of mine out in Western Colorado, to watch Obama 'mocking' Jesus Christ's Sermon on the Mount, and attacking the bible as not being valid (according to the absurd narration), in some ridiculous anti-Obama youtube video that has been viewed over a half million times. The goofball guy that does the narration is so sinister sounding that I question him being a threat just on voice alone, and he is so dumb that he called his long video a "527 political add", LOL.

But the point is, that even the McCain camp is now joining in on the "Obama is claiming he's the messiah" train - and therefore, the antichrist (there's NO other way to view that statement than to see the McCain camp is calling Obama the antichrist) - which is perhaps the lowest, dirtiest, scummiest, most vile action yet! I then received a call from the wife of the couple, and she, who was once 'not at all excited about McCain', now finds herself 'terrified what will happen to our country if Obama gets in, I'm sorry (my name), but that's how I feel'. These fearmongers are stoking an uneasy fear of Obama being outright EVIL - and that's where we get into a very, very, dark matter! The nutjobs with guns don't need much more than a lost job or marriage to find someone to blame for their agony, and if they're constantly being told things are going to get worse if Obama gets in - they tip over to scaryville.

As CNN noted in their ridiculous hit piece about Obama, called - "Is Obama the antichrist?", these attacks have a huge effect on a certain amount of Christians - because as I've said in a past post - IMAGE is everything, and if the McCain camp is going to be intent on creating ads that have Chuck Heston parting the seas, we should do everything to mock them for being insane for taking the race to this kind of cheap sideshow stunt that shows how bizarre of a candidate this man is (he is extremely superstitious - see link below).

We should point out how unstable he appears and how his own views are creepy, and do this over and over again. Calling McCain unstable and an old man at the command of his handlers who make up these horrible ads, all while McCain smiles like a shut-in who's been brought a cake from visitors will go far in helping us frame the issue!

I told my friends that their fears are overboard, and they said they respected my opinion because they view me as being very 'Christian', and I said, as I wrote above - that if Obama really were deceiving everyone, and he was the antichrist - would we have any say over what is supposed to happen in GOD'S plan? So, therefore, we should trust that Obama is going to be the uniting calm leader he portrays himself to be, and not the unsettled angry McCain who wants to go to war with everyone it seems!

I don't want a president that SAYS he knows how to win a war - I want a leader that knows how to AVOID a war, sparing life and saving hundreds of billions of dollars we really don't have.


(link of McCain's superstitious need of a feather, a lucky coin, and a compass, and the chaos that ensued when he lost the feather momentarily - "A Candidate's Lucky Charms" http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPcap/2000-02/19/0... )
John McCain and his penny


 
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Beregond2 (1000+ posts)      Sat Aug-16-08 06:33 PM
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2. Funny, I don't have any "friends" who are
 GOP Christians (an oxymoron if ever there was one.) Some relatives, yes, but we dont choose our family.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6645861

A stretchy if ever there was one.

[Bondai]

Ah yes! The old use of fear mongering to defeat fear mongering ploy...how ingenious.

[MrsSmith]

Beregond2 (1000+ posts)      Sat Aug-16-08 06:33 PM
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2. Funny, I don't have any "friends" who are
 GOP Christians (an oxymoron if ever there was one.) Some relatives, yes, but we dont choose our family.

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themartyred  (1000+ posts)        Sat Aug-16-08 06:36 PM
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3. they employed me when I was down and out, and kept me from being homeless 
 Edited on Sat Aug-16-08 06:37 PM by themartyred
I also have friends who are different colors than me, different religions and atheist, different political affiliations, different generations, and different sexuality. As a Christian, I believe that you find the good within anyone, and you keep them in your prayers, and in time, they hopefully will come around to being loving of all people if they're close-minded on issues, like these particular friends are about Obama.


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Lorien  (1000+ posts)      Sat Aug-16-08 06:47 PM
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11. I do. They were coworkers years ago and they helped me out when
 I was severely ill. They respect my views enough not to bring up politics when we're together, although we do talk about issues we agree on (like Net neutrality). My mother was a right wing repugs for quite a while, but I never had a "won't discuss politics" agreement with her. Now she's an avid Kucinich supporter.

While they just hate to admit it, it sounds like "GOP Christians" are pretty good people...   

Middle finga  (1000+ posts)       Sat Aug-16-08 06:40 PM
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4. You are right that does says something about the poster...
 If I had friends that were intolerant, racist or bigoted then that would say something about my character.

IF??  IF???  You post at DU, the home of the most intolerant people on earth, yet you say IF???

[Carl]

These actions by the GOP stoke REAL fears in millions who aren't very strong in their faith (why fear if you believe GOD will rapture you away from the antichrist as most Christians believe?), nor understand that even if Obama were to turn out to be the antichrist - would there be any way to stop GOD'S plan? Of course not, but let's not be rational here, it's too fun to be unstable and tear apart the man as a threat to humanity, without admitting a lot of the fear is clearly because of his color and his full name.

This is nothing more then made up political horse crap based on their ignorant lack of  knowledge of the Bible.

They know the word antichrist and a few others so they have spun a tale between themselves that bears no semblance to Biblical teaching on the matter.

They are simply fools.

[Chris_]

Negative-10 on the bouncy scale. What a dud.

[EastFacingNorth]

Arnold Judas Rimmer (456 posts)      Sat Aug-16-08 06:50 PM
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14. While the mere idea of Obama being the Antichrist is completely ridiculous, this is my response:
 Jesus Christ cannot return and establish His 1000 year kingdom on earth until the 7 year tribulation and reign of the Antichrist has passed. So if you prevent the Antichrist from taking power, you prevent Jesus from coming back.

Nice work, "Christians". 
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"The ends do not justify the means."

I know of no Christian church that does not hold this statement to be a truth of human morality.

Seeing in Teh Obamessiah the evil that pervades and defines him, a Christian could not vote for him, even if doing so would make certain Christ's return, for in so doing that Christian would have committed an evil act.

[BlueStateSaint]

Arnold Judas Rimmer (456 posts)      Sat Aug-16-08 06:50 PM
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14. While the mere idea of Obama being the Antichrist is completely ridiculous, this is my response:
 Jesus Christ cannot return and establish His 1000 year kingdom on earth until the 7 year tribulation and reign of the Antichrist has passed. So if you prevent the Antichrist from taking power, you prevent Jesus from coming back.

Nice work, "Christians". 
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"The ends do not justify the means."

I know of no Christian church that does not hold this statement to be a truth of human morality.

Seeing in Teh Obamessiah the evil that pervades and defines him, a Christian could not vote for him, even if doing so would make certain Christ's return, for in so doing that Christian would have committed an evil act.

You are correct--only God Himself can use evil for good means.  We humans cannot.  (H5 for bringing it up, too.)

[Lord Undies]

Christians, by definition and belief, are generally not terrified of anything.  Their rightful and righteous trust in the Lord Our Savior moots fears and neutralizes terror.  

As a Christian, I will never be scared of the antichrist for he cannot harm me.