Do you even bother trying to persuade the other side anymore?

[dutch508]

True Dough (4,431 posts)https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029644428

Do you even bother trying to persuade the other side anymore? DO YOU EVEN TRY???


Other online discussion boards or forums?

Friends, family, co-workers in person or via social media?

If they're on the right, do you even take a serious stab at trying to help them see the merits of being more tolerant, fairer and less bigoted?

So many discussions quickly deteriorate into name calling and insults. It just seems futile.

I get dragged into it at times (okay, I allow myself to type away inconsequently), but I can't help myself. It's like I believe that if I finally stumble upon those key words, that one touching incident, that overwhelming statistic, I might finally break through. But it never seems to happen.

Have you won anyone over? Ever?

  Normal people think you are all lunatics.

Star Member dhol82 (2,151 posts)
3. Nope.

Only have one right wing person I communicate with.
Last week I sent him a link from a neutral site. He is a retired cop. The story was about cops ****ing over some pizzeria owner.
The link had a bunch of links to verify the story.
He just emailed me back that it was fake news.
I give up. It was a neutral site with a bunch of valid proofs. He only believes Fox and Breitbart.
I can't fight anymore.

Star Member jrthin (2,536 posts)
6. Trying to reason with someone lacking reason is the same as giving resuscitation to a dead man. It's pointless.

LuckyCharms (326 posts)
7. No. I cut them out of my life and never speak to them again.

Like the meme says... When someone shows you who they are, believe them...or something like that.

I don't care if they're family.

I have a life to live. I'm not going to spend my time trying to convince people not to be a ****ing asshole.

Star Member LuvLoogie (3,655 posts)
9. I no longer have any desire to win them over. Voting for Trump has to be the ultimate litmus test.

I don't care. They stepped in dog shit. It was pointed out it was dog shit. They knew it was dog shit, and they stepped in it anyway--on purpose.

Star Member NRaleighLiberal (43,667 posts)
12. It is hard to reach into the mind of a cult member - the teflon around their belief system is powerful.

The last 250 days have been too painful to me - I've actually not been in a position to change minds, since I can't be around people who support Trump...it makes me physically ill.

Girard442 (1,097 posts)
17. Up until 2016, I really believed many people had given up racist thinking.

Come to find out that people had just shut up about their segregationist-era views because they thought they were unpopular, but when Trump told them it was cool to let their prejudice flag fly, they did.

Forget about trying to win them over. It'll never happen. Instead, reach out to people you can make common cause with, even if you don't agree with them on absolutely everything.

Star Member sharedvalues (2,421 posts)
30. Yes: "Fox News Lies"

I find that talking about media propaganda is key.

I don't argue politics, I talk about media bias, and how Fox News is lying to push the agenda of GOP billionaires like Murdoch. Fox wants its viewers to vote for destroying the govt so Murdoch and his ilk can have tax cuts.

100% of people tell me I'm wrong.
And 50% of those people in a few weeks have noticeably different views.

[ChuckJ]

True Dough (4,431 posts)https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029644428

Do you even bother trying to persuade the other side anymore? DO YOU EVEN TRY???


Other online discussion boards or forums?

Friends, family, co-workers in person or via social media?

If they're on the right, do you even take a serious stab at trying to help them see the merits of being more tolerant, fairer and less bigoted?

Most of your stabs at "trying to help them see the merits of being more tolerant, fairer and less bigoted" are like the forbes comic strip below.

[Undies]

Their "moral high ground" crapola is getting worn-out, very thin, and see-thru.  The idea that they even see themselves that way is a solid testament to their utter lack of intelligence and debilitating mental illness. 

[Maverick1987]

[Old n Grumpy]

True Dough (4,431 posts)https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029644428

Do you even bother trying to persuade the other side anymore? DO YOU EVEN TRY???

It is quite easy, you just break out your dog whistle and read from your book of code words. It works like a charm.

Oh, don't forget all the most popular memes as well.

[I_B_Perky]

True Dough (4,431 posts)https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029644428

Do you even bother trying to persuade the other side anymore? DO YOU EVEN TRY???

Well calling me, in no particular order:

1. Stupid
2. Deplorable
3. Racist
4. fundie ISIS taliban Christian
5. white privileged
6. racist
7. worthless
8. ignorant
9. too stupid to vote for my best interests
10. racist
11. Bible thumper
12. misogynist
13. racist
14. bigoted
15. poor
16. dumb
17. low IQ
18. did I mention racist?

is certainly a way to establish a nice dialog where your superior intellect will convince me to vote for your side.   

As for me trying to convince you to see my point of view... well facts do not seem to work so it is not worth my time. I prefer to just point at you and laugh.

[Old n Grumpy]

[FlaGator]

I have long since stopped trying to convince liberals of anything. I find it impossible to pour a cup full of knowledge into a shot glass sized brain.

[I_B_Perky]

I have long since stopped trying to convince liberals of anything. I find it impossible to pour a cup full of knowledge into a shot glass sized brain.

I wasn't aware that liberals have a brain. 

Dummies certainly don't.  It's like the some zombie movie. While they live and motivate themselves around, there is no light shining in the belfry.