DUmbass Atman primitive gets their hopes up, them BAM! Dashed again!

[BattleHymn]

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029517033

Nuts!!! Big Cheeto is foiled again!

Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:31 AM
Star Member Atman (30,571 posts)

Sheriff Joe is not out of hot water.


Great story on NPR this morning. Justice Dept. rules require a five-year waiting period before a pardon. And, as has been mentioned before, it requires an admission of guilt. Joe hasn't admitted guilt, and in fact said he would appeal. If he does accept the pardon it is a de facto admission of guilt, which opens him up to myriad civil suits which he'd likely lose because he's technically already admitted guilt.

In short, Trump really didn't do Joe any favors. But, at 85, it is likely Sheriff Joe will be deported from this Earth long before he sees any real punishment.

Sat Aug 26, 2017, 10:34 AM
Star Member Egnever (20,038 posts)
14. Hah!

We're DOOMED

Sat Aug 26, 2017, 11:22 AM
Star Member Cryptoad (5,952 posts)
35. Don the Con,,,,,

has never give a shit about JoeJoe,,,,, he is only cares abt how all his bigot and hate monger supports feel!!!!!!

Isn't that what an elected official is supposed to do?

Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:51 AM
Star Member mopinko (49,769 posts)
3. and who is gonna uphold these laws?

mostinko crawls out from under a mountainous pile of chicken shit inside of her house to make a post.



In come the Debbie Downers:

Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:52 AM
Star Member Princess Turandot (3,253 posts)
5. The five year waiting period comes into play when an individual actually applies for a pardon..

for his/herself using the normal Justice Department process. The felon needs to wait 5 years after release from prison (or after conviction, if they didn't go prison) before he/she can submit an application for consideration.

I'm not sure what that has to do with Arpaio's situation.

Well, shitbiscuits! 

Sat Aug 26, 2017, 10:14 AM
Star Member drray23 (2,074 posts)
6. the president's pardon power is not subjected to anything

What you are listing are just guidelines. A president can ignore them if they want to which is just what Trump did. The pardon power is defined in the constitution, not with laws.

Sat Aug 26, 2017, 10:58 AM
Cosmocat (10,170 posts)
21. Yes, but

But, as noted, like it or not, POTUS has absolute power with it.

I get what people are saying about opening him up to civil litigation, but that takes time (see OJ) only involves monetary remuneration, lots of ways to bag out of it, and end if the day conservatives are crazy enough to pay this POSs costs if need be.

Sat Aug 26, 2017, 10:21 AM
Star Member former9thward (18,587 posts)
9. None of this is true.

The Justice Department can not and does not restrict the power of the President to pardon. Accepting a pardon is not an admission of guilt. When Nixon was pardoned he never admitted anything. When Vietnam War draft evaders in Canada were pardoned they never admitted anything. Any civil suits were long ago filed and settled by Maricopa County which is responsible for them.

Sat Aug 26, 2017, 10:24 AM
Star Member Atman (30,571 posts)
10. I guess is was fake news from NPR.

Or maybe you're just ****ing stupid. 

[Old n Grumpy]

Sat Aug 26, 2017, 09:31 AM
Star Member Atman (30,571 posts)

Sheriff Joe is not out of hot water.


Great story on NPR this morning. Justice Dept. rules require a five-year waiting period before a pardon. And, as has been mentioned before, it requires an admission of guilt. Joe hasn't admitted guilt, and in fact said he would appeal. If he does accept the pardon it is a de facto admission of guilt, which opens him up to myriad civil suits which he'd likely lose because he's technically already admitted guilt.

In short, Trump really didn't do Joe any favors. But, at 85, it is likely Sheriff Joe will be deported from this Earth long before he sees any real punishment.

There will be a full expose on this at the Palmer report at 5, in 24 business hours, 30 days after the eclipse.

[SVPete]

Star Member Atman (30,571 posts)
10. I guess is was fake news from NPR.

Yeppers! And you fell for it hook, line, and donation.   How much did you donate to NPR this year, Atman?

[DumbAss Tanker]

Pardon is a plenary power of the President, meaning he does not need anybody's permission or regulations to exercise it, he can do it at will without any hoops or hurdles being jumped.  All the stuff the DUmmtard is talking about is just the accumulated barnacles and additions to keep the plebes from lining up to beg.