Obama got rid of all Syria's Chemical Weapons

[BamaMoose]

Bigtree tries to make a point.  Doesn't realize he's pointing out the incompetence of Obama and Kerry.

bigtree (67,136 posts)


Obama, through diplomacy, did more than Trump to curb Syrian chemical weapon use
     
...although President Obama maintained in the wake of chemical attacks in Syria in 2013 that he had the authority to unilaterally initiate military attacks on the sovereign nation, he eventually relented and opted to refrain from attacking in favor of a diplomatic initiative by Russia.

We shouldn't lose sight of the fact that he arrived at the decision to yield to Russia because Britain said 'no' first, then our legislature and the American people signaled 'no' as well to his plan for military strikes.

He only brought it to Congress because the Brits and the American people telegraphed strong opposition to the question. I still remember that he sent Ambassador Powers to the UN to tell the world he believed diplomacy had been 'exhausted' with regard to Syria, before he made the decision to allow the Russian initiative to proceed.

Under the terms of the War Powers Act, which the Obama gave heed to, his interpretation of a threat didn't measure up. For instance, there's no provision allowing unilateral Executive initiation of military force for a future threat. The chemical weapons treaty his administration referenced intended that the world community would play a role in determining whether military force would be used.

******* that he took us there and still held out the possibility of military strikes, insisting he had the authority to strike Syria - attack a nation which hasn't directly threatened us or any of our allies - no matter what Congress and the American people might say. That weak declaration of a threat to our national security is the hook Trump and other presidents (among other weaknesses in the WPA) will use for decades to justify their own unilateral military actions.

God bless that he listened to those opposed. Good on him for seeking congressional approval. Obama, by abiding with the expressed will of Americans and Congress, and allowing the Russian diplomatic initiative to proceed, did more in addressing the threat to Syrians from chemical weapons <I suspect the dead and injured from the latest chemical attack think otherwise> than Trump has in bombing an airfield. His administration's efforts stand, without a doubt, alongside not more than a handful of diplomatic initiatives to conflict which our country has managed to a successful and peaceful end <Syria civil war has been peaceful ended?> without military force.


Here's the U.N. Joint Mission Sec. Kerry organized describing the chemical weapons removal as '100%' complete in 2014:


Source: United Nations

The Joint Mission welcomes the removal of the remaining 7.2 per cent of chemical weapons material from the Syrian Arab Republic. With this last movement, the total of declared chemical weapons materials destroyed or removed from Syria has reached 100%. <Bigtree's bolding> The most operationally challenging task within the effort to eliminate the Syrian chemical weapons programme, has come to an end.

In addition to the completion of the removal operation, the Syrian Arab Republic has destroyed all declared production, mixing and filling equipment and munitions, as well as many buildings associated with its declared chemical weapons programme. With the exception of twelve production facilities that are awaiting a decision by the Executive Council of OPCW, all of the declared Syrian chemical weapons programme has been eliminated in an unprecedented timeframe and under uniquely challenging conditions.

Most of the DUmmies realize that he's actually pointing out a failure by the Obama administration, but Bigtree won't give it up and kicks his own thread seven hours later.

bigtree (67,136 posts)

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Does he not realize that Syria obviously still has chemical weapons and that Obama, Kerry and the UN look like fools?  Or is he just stupid?  I know they are rhetorical questions.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10028905326

[Delmar]

Source: United Nations

The Joint Mission welcomes the removal of the remaining 7.2 per cent of chemical weapons material from the Syrian Arab Republic. With this last movement, the total of declared chemical weapons materials destroyed or removed from Syria has reached 100%. The most operationally challenging task within the effort to eliminate the Syrian chemical weapons programme, has come to an end.

That nonsense about 100% of the chemical weapons being destroyed or removed has that same ring of bullshit as Barry's bragging about all the jobs that he created or saved.  And the primitives just lap that shit up.

[SVPete]

To any onlurking DU-folk:

* Bashar al Assad played Obama and Kerry for FOOLS!

* The swiftness of Trump's response to the Syrian gas attack means Obama MALAdministration people, and almost certainly, Obama himself:

1.) Knew Assad still had chemical weapons;

2.) Knew where they were;

3.) Did NOTHING about Assad's chemical weapons;

4.) Hoped Assad held off using them long enough so that Trump could be blamed for "letting" Assad get chemical weapons again;

5.) Whatever his motive, Assad exposed Obama and Kerry as the fools they were;

6.) Assad's years'-long success of playing lulled him into thinking he could get away with that gas attack; more bluntly, Obama's and Kerry's stupidity emboldened Assad and was a factor in his decision to slaughter the people he gassed.

[Wineslob]

Hey DUmmies       

[Tess Anderson]

bigtree is a raving loon:

What power for mischief is there in the short interval of an imperial presidency? What power for mischief is there in a small cabal of appointed executives who capture the offices of our government and plot to bend their weakened franchise to the realization of their narrow corporate agenda? These preoccupied courts of equity that are the instruments of our democracy were, in their infancy, forced to bend to the will of the governed by war, and tempered by a compact in which a united people reluctantly bestowed the force of their lives and labor to a handful of managers.

https://www.amazon.com/Power-Mischief-Military-Industry-Executives/dp/0974735205

 

[Movie buff- The Sequel]

As others here have noted, all this did was highlight that Assad's chemical weapons attack last week proved just how stupid and gullible Obama and Kerry were, and how ineffective their efforts to disarm Syria were.

[franksolich]

bigtree is a raving loon:

 

He sure is.

comment 3484, second half:
https://conservativecave.com/home/index.php?topic=81827.3475

[FiddyBeowulf]

As others here have noted, all this did was highlight that Assad's chemical weapons attack last week proved just how stupid and gullible Obama and Kerry were, and how ineffective their efforts to disarm Syria were.

This should also throw more light on the Iran deal. Apparently Obama did not want to strike Syria because its ally Iran would walk away from his cuck-inspired nuclear deal.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/15229/flashback-obama-backed-syrian-missile-strike-aaron-bandler#