primitives discuss something about which they know nothing, as usual

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028899539

Talk about taking the cake.

After eight years of the most lawless president ever?

Baitball Blogger (25,471 posts)     Thu Apr 6, 2017, 10:42 AM

The Rule of Law.
 
We are a country of laws, and if we're a just country, the law applies to all of us equally. Which means that at some point, political excuses or reasons, no longer can fend off justice.

I am glad to see that we are reaching the tipping point and Trump's men are coming under scrutiny. No where to hide. I just worry that their supporters have counted on the Machiavelli approach of skirting the laws for so long, that they will not understand. That is what is so crazy about what is happening. There are people out there with college degrees who think that political ends are above the law. I hope we are prepared when they begin their melt-down.

vlyons (2,611 posts)      Thu Apr 6, 2017, 10:51 AM

1. The human error is the passion of greed
 
The love of money is the root of all evil. I really believe that. I don't know how we eradicate greed from the human condition, except through education. Early education that teaches generosity. And maybe not even then.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.  What about all these superrich, megarich, Democrats?

GWC58 (1,214 posts)      Thu Apr 6, 2017, 10:58 AM

2. There's a lot of
 
Money love in this world, not just the US. Too much, really. I'd "love" to have more, but I'm not a lover of money.

^^^the pious prig's lying.

Solly Mack (64,556 posts)      Thu Apr 6, 2017, 11:03 AM

3. I'd wager Bush would agree about a country of laws, and the law applying equally.
 
Point being, he's a war criminal who still touts the rule of law. A never been held accountable war criminal at that. He can still tout it - publicly, he's free to do so. He'd disagree about political ends as a mitigating factor, though. But then he would, yes?

So, as to what will happen to Trump and his minions under the same rule of law that allowed a war criminal and his minions to remain free?

I am curious about that myself.

I'd like to think we have learned a lesson.

I also wish magic was real. I adore Harry Potter.

Now, that, was justice. Even the mercy to the Malfoys was justice.

Justice, tempered with mercy - but justice first.

It's not enough to simply be glad bad is gone or simply out of office.

There must be a reckoning.

Otherwise, that same kind of bad still permeates the thinking because it knows what it can get away with.

Murder laws will never stop murder - but they still go to prison.

Authority figures should as well.

There will never be Harry Potter magic but the universe is magical enough in its own right. I'll settle for that - and justice.

Please, don't misunderstand me. This was not an attack on what you said. It's just what you said got me to thinking about America and its rule of law - and how it has been applied and not applied.

I am sorry if I offended. None was intended. 

^^^the primitive didn't offend; the primitive merely confused.

[Carl]

The "law" to the left is whatever they want it to be to get their political opponents.

[franksolich]

The "law" to the left is whatever they want it to be.

Better description, sir.

[FiddyBeowulf]

Solly Mack (64,556 posts)      Thu Apr 6, 2017, 11:03 AM

3. I'd wager Bush would agree about a country of laws, and the law applying equally.
 
Point being, he's a war criminal who still touts the rule of law. A never been held accountable war criminal at that. He can still tout it - publicly, he's free to do so. He'd disagree about political ends as a mitigating factor, though. But then he would, yes?

Please, just stop. 16 years and 8 of that with Obama as president and W was not even indicted for "war crimes" by anyone with any power to indict let alone convict for those crimes.

[SVPete]

I don't know how we eradicate greed from the human condition, except through education. Early education that teaches generosity. And maybe not even then.

Ummmmmm ... no. There are lots of greedy - and worse - educated people in this world. And there are lots of decent and generous people in the world whom DU-folk would contemn as uneducated. The root of moral problems like greed, lust, and hatred is something many/most DU-folk don't want to contemplate, human nature.

[docstew]

Ummmmmm ... no. There are lots of greedy - and worse - educated people in this world. And there are lots of decent and generous people in the world whom DU-folk would contemn as uneducated. The root of moral problems like greed, lust, and hatred is something many/most DU-folk don't want to contemplate, human nature.

Human nature is also the point of failure for their beloved political systems of socialism and communism. Humans inherently want to do the least amount of work possible and/or have others do it for them. So, when a person gets into a position to force others to do their work, they do so. And they'll sit back and enjoy the free ride until it ends, only worrying about moving upwards so they can have better perks and less labor.

[jukin]

We will see how this DUchebag viewpoint changes, dramatically, when team Obama starts their trials.