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CLINTO'S ISLAMIC PROP HATE HOAXES SELF...
« on: March 07, 2017, 05:15:43 PM »
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Star Member DonViejo (24,566 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141721791

Khizr Khan forced to cancel Toronto trip after being told his travel privileges are being 'reviewed'

Source: RawStory

yes- the gold start dad claims government put him on travel ban. Government says, "Who?"

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Star Member OKNancy (39,211 posts)
3. outrage

if true

BUT... it's not true.

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Star Member jberryhill (45,792 posts)
4. "after being informed"

After being informed by whom and of what?

If someone is being placed on a no-fly list, it's not as if they are informed of that fact.

Likewise, if a passport is revoked, it's not as if there is some sort of "courtesy call" made to the passport holder.

Specifically who contacted him to inform him of what?

Do any reporters actually write news copy any more? Who told him what is pretty much basic to this story, but the information is completely absent.

 :rotf:

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Star Member question everything (30,153 posts)
14. some more info

The New York Daily News said a State Department official said there was no US State Department procedure for reviewing “travel privileges” and that anyone with a valid US passport can enter and leave the US.

Rather, the official said that it was up to other countries, such as Canada, to admit US citizens or not. The Canadian Foreign Ministry has yet to comment.

When The Independent connected Mr Khan by email, he replied: “Thank you. I have no comments.” Mr Ramsay also failed to respond to inquiries.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/khizr-khan-talk-toronto-cancelled-travel-restriction-a7615171.html

OOOPS!

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Star Member jberryhill (45,792 posts)
19. What "part of the government" is involved here?

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Warpy (91,872 posts)
25. In Khan's case, ICE

and he will use whatever he can for as long as he can.

 :???: Khan is a US citizen, Warpy. The only thing ICE is gonna do to Khan is keep his martini cold.

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Warpy (91,872 posts)
27. They have threatened to prevent his coming back and you know it.

Goodbye.

Where did this happen? Any proof? Nope... of course not.

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Star Member OKNancy (39,211 posts)
6. Khan is an immigration lawyer... something doesn't seem right

CTV asked for Khan to comment and he told them no comment.
Something doesn't seem right.


CTV asked for Khan to comment and he told them no comment.
Something doesn't seem right.

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Statement from Ramsey Talks regarding Khizr Khan cancellation is now up on their Facebook page.
Important to note: Mr. Khan hasn't said why his "travel privileges" are under review. When we reached out to him, he had no further comment.
12:54 PM - 6 Mar 2017
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Even some reliable Democratic/liberal people on twitter are seriously questioning this.
No major news site reporting this either.

no shit.

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jmowreader (35,355 posts)
11. Khizr Khan doesn't have "travel privileges"

He has the RIGHT to travel.

The RIGHT.

We are inching very close to French Revolution territory.

just another leftist lie.

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Star Member question everything (30,153 posts)
13. This is outrageous. Needs to be widely publicized. (nt)

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Star Member jberryhill (45,792 posts)
18. Okay, specifically what needs to be publicized? For example, who is it that is preventing Mr. Khan from traveling to Canada?

Nobody in the US "checks you out of the country" if you walk into Canada. And if you are on the "no fly" list, nobody sends you a letter telling you.

Mr. Khan has not provided sufficient information to even figure out what the "this" is.

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Re: CLINTO'S ISLAMIC PROP HATE HOAXES SELF...
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2017, 06:01:07 PM »
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Warpy (91,875 posts)      Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:52 PM
in response to an earlier comment by the berryhill primitive, below

27. They have threatened to prevent his coming back
 
and you know it.

Goodbye.

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jberryhill (45,793 posts)    Tue Mar 7, 2017, 06:23 PM

30. A US citizen cannot be prevented from coming back
 
Mr. Khan is an immigration attorney and he knows that very well. Unless they want to end up cutting him a fat check after he sues.

So, let me see if I understand what you believe - on NO information whatsoever:

You believe that ICE sends letters to US citizens informing them that their "travel privileges are under review" and says that if they leave the country, they won't be allowed back in?

And the point of that would be what?

Even if it were legally possible to prevent a US citizen from entering the US, why would they warn people in advance not to leave?

Wouldn't it make a lot more sense, in the scheme of things the way you think they work, to NOT tell them and then to lock them up when they try to return?

There are simply no facts supporting the claim that the US government has anything to do with whatever Mr. Khan's issue might be, and Mr. Khan is not talking about it.

It looks as if she with the face like Hindenberg's got smacked down.  Hard.
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Re: CLINTO'S ISLAMIC PROP HATE HOAXES SELF...
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2017, 06:52:09 PM »
My mole is dead and the newborn is still on the teat, otherwise I'd post these facts...from the Washington post....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/03/07/khizr-khans-claim-that-the-u-s-is-restricting-his-travel-may-be-unraveling

Khizr Khan’s claim that the U.S. is restricting his travel may be unraveling

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Re: CLINTO'S ISLAMIC PROP HATE HOAXES SELF...
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2017, 08:05:39 PM »
When the WashPost refutes a Prog lie you know that lie is blatantly stupid. Not that facts matter in DU-Land.
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Re: CLINTO'S ISLAMIC PROP HATE HOAXES SELF...
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2017, 08:40:14 PM »
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)Mon Mar 6, 2017, 03:59 PM
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10. The ACLU will be all over this.

Mr. Khan has friends in high places.

He served his purpose at the convention.  Now that he has become inconvenient, he'll be joining Cindy Sheehan under the bus.

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Re: CLINTO'S ISLAMIC PROP HATE HOAXES SELF...
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2017, 09:21:05 PM »
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11. Khizr Khan doesn't have "travel privileges"

He has the RIGHT to travel.

The RIGHT.
 We are inching very close to French Revolution territory.

Ohhhhhh, can we bring back the guillotine?  That will go so awesomely well  in the death camps next to the "shower facilities".  :fuelfire:
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Re: CLINTO'S ISLAMIC PROP HATE HOAXES SELF...
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2017, 09:24:16 PM »
He served his purpose at the convention.  Now that he has become inconvenient, he'll be joining Cindy Sheehan under the bus.



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Re: CLINTO'S ISLAMIC PROP HATE HOAXES SELF...
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2017, 05:49:33 AM »
When the WashPost refutes a Prog lie you know that lie is blatantly stupid.

This.

Maybe the Canadians just don't want him in the Great White North.
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Re: CLINTO'S ISLAMIC PROP HATE HOAXES SELF...
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2017, 08:20:30 AM »
OTOH, this is example 532,941 of Progs' credulity under the influence of confirmation bias (plus or minus recreational chemicals).
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Re: CLINTO'S ISLAMIC PROP HATE HOAXES SELF...
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2017, 01:19:38 PM »
The Washington Post article finally appeared over there.  Posted by a low counter poster who is probably already marked for termination.

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Washington Post: Khizr Khans claim that the U.S. is restricting his travel may be unraveling
   
Khizr Khan, the Gold Star father whose impassioned speech at the Democratic National Convention in July called on Americans to reject a ban on Muslims entering the United States, claimed that his “travel privileges are being reviewed” by U.S. authorities, forcing him to cancel a scheduled speech in Toronto.

The announcement on Monday coincided with President Trump's rewritten order to temporarily ban entry of citizens from six Muslim-majority nations to the United States. Khan has been a U.S. citizen for more than 30 years and was born in Pakistan, which is not one of the six nations.

Ramsay Talks, the organizer of the event Khan was to speak at, seemed to take Khan at his word on Monday and included a statement from him in a cancellation post on Facebook. “This turn of events is not just of deep concern to me but to all my fellow Americans who cherish our freedom to travel abroad,” said Khan, according to the post. “I have not been given any reason as to why. I am grateful for your support and look forward to visiting Toronto in the near future.”

The claim, which does not state which U.S. agency contacted him, immediately raised doubts about how it was possible that a U.S. citizen was being prevented from traveling abroad.

more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/03/07/khizr-khans-claim-that-the-u-s-is-restricting-his-travel-may-be-unraveling/?utm_term=.952d164a8600

The DUmmies who doubted the story in the first place are in "Told you so" mode, but the True Believers responses are typical.

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3. So now we turn on him like we turned on Cindy Sheehan
 
Noice.

Sheehan committed heresy against Obama and had to be cast down.  Get back in line DUmmie.

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5. I don't see Khan saying they did prevent his travel in his statement? He cancelled the event cause..
 
... privileges were being reviewed.

I little slanted article or am I missing something?

tia

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8. We don't know if his travel privileges are being reviewed and I give him the BOD vs Benedict Donalds
 
... Band Of Bigots.

He'll lose it if there is NO AGENCY reviewing his privileges.

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27. Obviously
 
Something is up , why would he even make such a claim, he knows how aggressive the Murdock media is?
I would believe him before any republican saying anything.

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24. Benedict Donald's crew is a bunch of assholes and I don't believe shit they say and anyone who
 
... does say they did some bad shit to them I give them the Benefit Of Doubt.

I don't really understand what's unclear about this and its a little uncomfortable to me giving anything the current assholes in charge do or say a good eye.

They're assholes, they're the type of people to call Khan up and say his travel privileges are under review... **** them

Any Anti-Trump claim no matter how ludicrous is to be taken at face value.  Get with the program. 

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49. why invest time in trying to debunk this?
 
...the statement was offered by a third-party with zero confirmation from Mr. Khan.

I understand the motivation to highlight a possible abuse of liberty.

What's to be gained, though, in proving this false?

Truth and reality are so inconvenient and must be avoided at all costs.

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Re: CLINTO'S ISLAMIC PROP HATE HOAXES SELF...
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2017, 01:52:23 PM »
Have the DUmmies made mention of this?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/03/06/memorandum-secretary-state-attorney-general-secretary-homeland-security

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Sec. 3. Enforcement of All Laws for Entry into the United States. I direct the Secretary of State, the Attorney General, the Secretary of Homeland Security, and the heads of all other relevant executive departments and agencies (as identified by the Secretary of Homeland Security) to rigorously enforce all existing grounds of inadmissibility and to ensure subsequent compliance with related laws after admission. The heads of all relevant executive departments and agencies shall issue new rules, regulations, or guidance (collectively, rules), as appropriate, to enforce laws relating to such grounds of inadmissibility and subsequent compliance. To the extent that the Secretary of Homeland Security issues such new rules, the heads of all other relevant executive departments and agencies shall, as necessary and appropriate, issue new rules that conform to them. Such new rules shall supersede any previous rules to the extent of any conflict.

This gives DHS and ICE a lot more power than Obama gave them. Of course it is doing nothing more than allowing and instructing the various agencies to fully implement and follow the laws already on the books.

However, some reasons for "inadmissibility" are communicable diseases, criminal convictions, goat ****ing and child molesting.

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Re: CLINTO'S ISLAMIC PROP HATE HOAXES SELF...
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2017, 02:21:22 PM »
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49. why invest time in trying to debunk this?
 
...the statement was offered by a third-party with zero confirmation from Mr. Khan.

I understand the motivation to highlight a possible abuse of liberty.

What's to be gained, though, in proving this false?

So, truth only matters when there is something to be gained from it? As Arte Johnson said, "Velly interestink."
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Re: CLINTO'S ISLAMIC PROP HATE HOAXES SELF...
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2017, 03:52:52 PM »
They want a french revolution, then let them have a french revolution. For useless oxygen users it will be short and sweet. For the higher ups on the left it will be a time in the gulag then a fair trial followed by hanging.

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