DUmpmonkie knows illegals, haz sadz because we are a nation of laws... again...

[dutch508]

Jakes Progress (9,111 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028690353

I have close, hard-working, truly decent friends who are about to be deported.

They are lovely people. They are good and kind and compassionate. They are about to have their lives turned into shit because of the sheer hate and ignorance and greed of trump and the braindead, soulless, drooling assholes who helped elect him.

I am mad a hell. I can't bring myself to speak with anyone - republican or democrat - who had anything to do with bringing about the destruction of the American dream.

If you voted for trump, you belong in hell. If you didn't vote because you thought Hillary was not your cup of tea, you need to hang your head in shame. If you voted for one of the idiot third party candidates, you are shit.

I cannot bring the words to describe how I feel about the ruined lives. Don't tell me that we have to fight. I am. But it is too late for these blameless people. I feel horrible for the ones I know and can only despair at how their misery is multiplied across the county because of the wretched people who helped trump into the white house.

If you fall into any of the categories above, just go **** yourselves and die. You truly suck.

You break the law, GTFO.

Star Member bravenak (33,834 posts)
2. I agree. I am so enraged I cannot formulate the words to describe the feeling

 

Imagine how we felt when you rammed through Obamacare...

Star Member brer cat (8,200 posts)
33. Looking back

is like moving into a surreal parallel universe. You, 1SBM, many others who were trying to educate, to explain, to reason, to simply cut through the bullshit, were stalked, harassed, ultimately silenced over and over. The danger in a badly fractured Democratic party, especially marginalizing people of color, was there to see but killing the messenger shut down the message.

As one who always lived sheltered and protected by white privilege, I cannot put myself in the shoes of Jakes Progress' friends, only feel and share his anger and disgust that people's lives are willfully being turned to shit. But you can: how far removed from stop and frisk is "your papers, please"? How long before profiling by skin color becomes profiling by gender identity, by head coverings? Who will be next? We must all stand beside minorities for resistance to be effective, and hatred for the messenger must not silence the message.

 

scscholar (2,861 posts)
10. People with jobs shouldn't be deported!

They are criminals, but there are so many worse criminals like gun owners that they should be last on the list.

One is illegal criminal the other is a Bill of Rights defined citizen. Of course the DUmpmonkiez pick the former...

Star Member gopiscrap (14,023 posts)
29. agree about the gun owners, all gun owners should be deported

If only the British had thought of that in 1776...

2naSalit (16,523 posts)
15. I have relatives who are wondering if they will be deported

as well as dear friends whom I consider family.

I was born here to US parents but I don't feel safe either.

 

Star Member Stonepounder (1,608 posts)
24. The real problem is that 'legally' they have no recourse.

Much as I hate and despise what Trump is doing, these poor people have no 'legal' recourse. We have gone for years and years with a wink and a nod because so many undocumenteds help drive our economy. The vast majority of them are hard working, good, decent, folk who came her to build better lives or escape horiffic situations in their native country. But there were damn few legal avenues for them to actually get a green card or citizenship. They worked hard, paid their taxes, and were respected members of their community.

But no President had the nerve to try and change the laws and give them an actual path to legality. And then we get Trump. And as furious as we are with his noxious lack of any feelings for anyone but Trump, there is absolutely nothing that we, or the deportees can do, because the 'law' is clear. If you don't have papers showing you are in the country legally, you are subject to deportation, regardless of how long you have lived in this country.

I hate it!

so... they are here illegally. See ya!

Star Member Initech (57,606 posts)
37. This whole thing is illegal and immoral and wrong.

Star Member WillowTree (4,187 posts)
42. That's terrible. Why are they being targeted?

Because they came into this country illegally.

Jakes Progress (9,111 posts)
49. Because they are brown in Texas. Problems caused years ago because of language barriers. We have way too many that spend their time looking for people to hurt. It seems to make them feel good. I do not understand how an INS agent sleeps at night, let alone the snitches and finks that supply them with the names of children and mothers to go after.

They broke the law and now have to pay for it.

Lanius (246 posts)
56. What about Dreamers with undocumented parents?

AFAIK the Dreamers are supposedly protected from deportation, but what about their parents? Are we effectively orphaning Dreamers under 18 who have undocumented parents living in the United States? Or are at least the parents of Dreamers who are minors being spared? Something tells me "no" but I haven't read the law in its entirety.

 

[FunkyZero]

Funny how that works.
Had my father broke the law and got caught, I'd have been fatherless too while he sat in prison.
Would I be justified in blaming the people who made the law he broke, or the people who arrested and convicted him?
DUmbasses... the whole lot of them

[FunkyZero]

Jakes Progress (9,111 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028690353

I have close, hard-working, truly decent friends who are about to be deported.

They are lovely people. They are good and kind and compassionate. They are about to have their lives turned into shit because of the sheer hate and ignorance and greed of trump and the braindead, soulless, drooling assholes who helped elect him.

I am mad a hell. I can't bring myself to speak with anyone - republican or democrat - who had anything to do with bringing about the destruction of the American dream.

If you voted for trump, you belong in hell. If you didn't vote because you thought Hillary was not your cup of tea, you need to hang your head in shame. If you voted for one of the idiot third party candidates, you are shit.

I cannot bring the words to describe how I feel about the ruined lives. Don't tell me that we have to fight. I am. But it is too late for these blameless people. I feel horrible for the ones I know and can only despair at how their misery is multiplied across the county because of the wretched people who helped trump into the white house.

If you fall into any of the categories above, just go **** yourselves and die. You truly suck.

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[thundley4]

Funny how that works.
Had my father broke the law and got caught, I'd have been fatherless too while he sat in prison.
Would I be justified in blaming the people who made the law he broke, or the people who arrested and convicted him?
DUmbasses... the whole lot of them

Exactly. That is one of the huge problems facing the black community. They are in a vicious democrat imposed cycle of criminal fathers with multiple children by different mothers being locked up.

Lanius (246 posts)
56. What about Dreamers with undocumented parents?

AFAIK the Dreamers are supposedly protected from deportation, but what about their parents? Are we effectively orphaning Dreamers under 18 who have undocumented parents living in the United States?

This DUmmie needs to pay closer attention to Sean Spicer.  He said that DACA is currently not going to be changed.

He said nothing about it not being changed in the near future. 

[ShortGuy]

Uh. Hmm. Well when you break the law those actions have consequences when your caught. Sorry pal. There are legal ways to get here to work or even become a citizen. Imagine that! Look at the requirements to get into Canada. Maybe that's why some of them celebrities who swore to go there if Trump got elected are still here. See what happens if you sneak into Mexico. But no! We should have open boarders and let anyone and everyone in. Give me a damn break.


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[Ogre]

To any lurking DUmpmonkey and Jake Progress especially; I truly don't give a flying f what your opinion of who I voted for is.

I like you have a vote, it is mine and mine alone.  I get to decide who to vote for, me and me alone.

Your opinion means nothing, the media's opinion means nothing, Hollywood celebrities opinions mean nothing, Mrs. Ogre's opinion means nothing (on this subject alone, all other subjects it does).

I will vote for who ever most closely aligns with my closely held beliefs and ideals, yours good sir be damned.

Take your "holier-than-thou" opinion, bullshit, and whatever else you have in there and stick it where the sun doesn't shine.

No I won't tell you who I voted for, I will not tell Mrs. Ogre (again on this subject only), close personal friends, and who ever else, because it is mine and mine alone.

So in closing, take your tired, lame-assed, ill-conceived finger wagging and play a nice game of hide and go f%$% yourself.

[freedumb2003b]

Some brightness an joy:

S HAB911 (1,250 posts)
40. I lost five friends over this election

and have even blocked them from calling my telephone number. I warned them this was coming.

Five people in this world whose lives became immeasurably brighter and better!

[fatboy]

About two weeks ago the DUmmies were lining up to inform the world that they would hide wetbacks in their homes:

https://conservativecave.com/home/index.php?action=post;quote=1387112;topic=112476.0;last_msg=1387504

Here is the OP as shown here in the cave....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028633738
True Dough
Would you be willing to hide an illegal immigrant in your home?

We're hearing about raids taking place in neighborhoods of various cities. If you had a longtime immigrant neighbor whom you know and trust, would you be willing to allow them to stay in your home? If they came knocking at your door expressing fear about being deported because they entered the country illegally, would you give them shelter?

Just curious how far DUers would be willing to go to aid those who are being persecuted?

Star Member rug
1. Yes. And I would not allow an agent in without a warrant.

janlyn
3. I would,no question.
I am willing to do whatever it takes to oppose this regime.

DUmmies are an amazing species.


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[ShortGuy]

To any lurking DUmpmonkey and Jake Progress especially; I truly don't give a flying f what your opinion of who I voted for is.

I like you have a vote, it is mine and mine alone.  I get to decide who to vote for, me and me alone.

Your opinion means nothing, the media's opinion means nothing, Hollywood celebrities opinions mean nothing, Mrs. Ogre's opinion means nothing (on this subject alone, all other subjects it does).

I will vote for who ever most closely aligns with my closely held beliefs and ideals, yours good sir be damned.

Take your "holier-than-thou" opinion, bullshit, and whatever else you have in there and stick it where the sun doesn't shine.

No I won't tell you who I voted for, I will not tell Mrs. Ogre (again on this subject only), close personal friends, and who ever else, because it is mine and mine alone.

So in closing, take your tired, lame-assed, ill-conceived finger wagging and play a nice game of hide and go f%$% yourself.

Ogre for President?


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[SVPete]

I have loads of co-workers who are immigrants who are not about to be deported. They came to the US legally. End of . I know, boring. Law abiding people don't make the newspaper or TV news very often.

[Big Dog]

Uh. Hmm. Well when you break the law those actions have consequences when your caught. Sorry pal. There are legal ways to get here to work or even become a citizen. Imagine that! Look at the requirements to get into Canada. Maybe that's why some of them celebrities who swore to go there if Trump got elected are still here. See what happens if you sneak into Mexico. But no! We should have open boarders and let anyone and everyone in. Give me a damn break.


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They could sneak into Canada, but Rosie O'Donut wouldn't fit in the barrel.


Northern wetback, preparing for the journey over the falls.





Royal Canadian Border Patrol bringing a wetback to shore.

[Maverick1987]

Star Member brer cat (8,200 posts)
33. Looking back

is like moving into a surreal parallel universe. You, 1SBM, many others who were trying to educate, to explain, to reason, to simply cut through the bullshit, were stalked, harassed, ultimately silenced over and over. The danger in a badly fractured Democratic party, especially marginalizing people of color, was there to see but killing the messenger shut down the message.

As one who always lived sheltered and protected by white privilege, I cannot put myself in the shoes of Jakes Progress' friends, only feel and share his anger and disgust that people's lives are willfully being turned to shit. But you can: how far removed from stop and frisk is "your papers, please"? How long before profiling by skin color becomes profiling by gender identity, by head coverings? Who will be next? We must all stand beside minorities for resistance to be effective, and hatred for the messenger must not silence the message.

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[Movie buff- The Sequel]

DUmmy Jakes Progress, your wonderful, "Compassionate" friends, just by being here, are openly mocking our nation's laws and spitting in the faces of all the innumerable legal immigrants who worked hard and followed the proper laws, rules, and procedures to earn their citizenship the right way (Including a beloved aunt of mine, an immigrant from Mexico who initially had her citizenship through her marriage to my uncle, but worked hard and followed all the right legal channels and thus earned her own legal citizenship apart from it).

If I were Trump, the first illegal immigrants I'd have deported would be Francisca Sanchez and Astrid Silva, the criminal aliens who Hillary had speak at the Democratic National Convention and gave standing ovations to as those two criminals reveled in their mockery of America's laws. I'd love to see the smug smiles wiped off their faces as they're shipped back to Mexico and made to earn their citizenship the proper, legal way.
"If you voted for trump, you belong in hell."
I thought the DUmmies believed Hell wasn't real, and that Christians who talked about Hell and warned people on how to avoid going there were the scum of the Earth?

[Carl]

How is it compassionate to wish one level above slavery on millions of people?

[SVPete]

S HAB911 (1,250 posts)
40. I lost five friends over this election

and have even blocked them from calling my telephone number. I warned them this was coming.

Evidently they took your "warning" to heart. Hope the DU-cred points you gained fill your self-inflicted void. Be careful what you say around DU's masters of gender and race victimology, DU-cred points are fragile.

[FaC]

Interesting little side tempest...

Star Member DesertFlower (11,551 posts)
6. i'm pissed too. i don't know anyone personally,

but there are people who work in the kitchen of the restaurant i eat in that are undocumented.

scscholar (2,863 posts)
10. People with jobs shouldn't be deported!

They are criminals, but there are so many worse criminals like gun owners that they should be last on the list.

Star Member DesertFlower (11,551 posts)
17. even if they don't have jobs they should not

be deported. many are parents who brought their children here. some are elderly now.

Star Member gopiscrap (14,026 posts)
29. agree about the gun owners, all gun owners should be deported

^^^ IIRC owning a gun is actually a right directly listed in the Constitution...

Star Member DesertFlower (11,551 posts)
31. you want to deport me. i'm a gun owner.

Star Member gopiscrap (14,026 posts)
32. I have no use for ****ing gun humpers

most of them suck the asshole of the NRA and are part of the problem of violence here in the USA

^^^ ALERT! ALERT! ALERT! - this sounds like one DUmmie attacking another DUmmie...

Star Member jmg257 (8,349 posts)
36. When they came for the gun owners...I did nothing. Hate and bigotry take many forms,

but that's OK - just send the 80-100 million packing! Gun owners, or Latinos, or Blacks, whatever...

^^^ Our buddy jmg257 is pushing his luck

FiveGoodMen (15,989 posts)
46. If you're going to paraphrase like that...

"When they came for the Nazis, I did nothing."

(It really does matter who they're coming for)

((And none of the people they're coming for now deserve the treatment they're getting))

Star Member jmg257 (8,349 posts)
64. Yup - haven't even heard someone asking to deport all Nazis.

But all gun owners? Sure why not.
 
Very troubling.

^^^ You are pushing your luck...

Star Member DesertFlower (11,551 posts)
61. i'm an american citizen (born here) who owns

a handgun for personal protection. sorry if this upsets some people.

^^^ Sorry Ms. Flower, you are not allowed to execute your specifically enumerated rights since you are a DUmmie

Star Member sarisataka (7,789 posts)
66. Gun owners are criminals

?

^^^ sarisataka needs to remember where they are. Once they do that they will not continue to ask such silly questions. Of course gun owners are criminals for executing their constitutional rights.

[Karin]

I see that moron scscholar has struck again.

there are so many worse criminals like gun owners

 

Response to DesertFlower (Reply #31)
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 02:39 AM
 gopiscrap (14,026 posts)
32. I have no use for ****ing gun humpers

most of them suck the asshole of the NRA and are part of the problem of violence here in the USA

But back on topic:

Response to Jakes Progress (Original post)
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 02:02 AM
 Kablooie (12,309 posts)
28. And it's STUPID! There's no reason on earth for doing this!

It achieves nothing except damaging people's lives.
A not just the familIes. All the friends and associates. And what about all the employers that suddenly start losing workers and can't find Replacements? Crops will go Unharvested. Hotels will remain uncleaned. Restaurants will have more mess than the have staff to manage it. And these are just the stereotyped jobs. There are many more skilled jobs that rely on immigrant workers also.

I think anyone that voted for Trump should forced to take a job that is vacant because an immigrant worker was deported. These are the jobs they voted for so they should be required to fill them.

Somebody just got religion:

Response to Squinch (Reply #63)
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 12:52 AM
Jakes Progress (9,113 posts)
65. ...

Those that enabled this election need to do penance. If someone voted third party, or for trump, or didn't vote, or spent any time past February trashing Hillary, they need to quit your job and begin working full time to make up for that sin.

[ADsOutburst]

That's nice.

You know who makes me angry?

The people who let our illegal immigration problem get this bad in the first place.

[SVPete]

Law-abiding citizens are criminals, and lawbreakers (breakers of more laws than "just" entering the US illegally!) should be protected.


        

[Charlespg]

I have loads of co-workers who are immigrants who are not about to be deported. They came to the US legally. End of . I know, boring. Law abiding people don't make the newspaper or TV news very often.

And thats the rub ,the majority of immigrants came to the US
legally ,why do Mexicans and Hispanics  get a pass ? when the Italians,Irish and Poles,etc did not  .

Its because illegal aliens and their supporters  are raciest  who think Hispanics especially Mexicans  should be able to come here illegally and flout our laws
while whores like like Hillery Clinton and others of  her kind sell their  office and their  country out to get  votes from the pro illegal aliens crowd

why should a wetback who sneaks into my country like a thief in the night  and steals social security numbers and gets benefits their not entitled  to be given special rights  ,when the majority of folks who came to this country did so legally  and did not preferential treatment because of their race 

the raciest are people like Jakes Progress and the rest of the pro illegal crowd who think Pancho should get a pass because he's brown skinned and will  aways vote democrat in return for amnesty and handouts

[Ogre]

Ogre for President?


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Oh hell No!  Nope, no, not going to happen, don't want the job.

I am approaching the age when I can retire, currently in my mid-50's, purchased the fishing boat of my dreams two years ago and I plan on fishing the rest of my life when I finally do retire.

Just have one more son to graduate high-school (two more years to go), and I'm done.

Unlike the average DUmpmonkey I have saved and invested all my adult life and won't need to collect Social Security (if there is anything left) until I'm 67.

Oh, and for lurking DUmmies, Mrs. Ogre can retire when my son graduates high school and she's younger than I.

[ShortGuy]

Oh hell No!  Nope, no, not going to happen, don't want the job.

I am approaching the age when I can retire, currently in my mid-50's, purchased the fishing boat of my dreams two years ago and I plan on fishing the rest of my life when I finally do retire.

Just have one more son to graduate high-school (two more years to go), and I'm done.

Unlike the average DUmpmonkey I have saved and invested all my adult life and won't need to collect Social Security (if there is anything left) until I'm 67.

Oh, and for lurking DUmmies, Mrs. Ogre can retire when my son graduates high school and she's younger than I.

Good deal. I'm knocking on 40. Oldest son graduates high school next year and then going military. That leaves 3 more boys. The time goes by quick it seems. I'm hoping I'll be able to retire very comfortably given my continuing efforts. Kudos to you and Mrs. Ogre.


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