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Pacco Fransisco (2668 posts) January 16, 2017 at 11:54 am Democrats sweat Clinton vs. Sanders riftLong after the presidential nomination was settled, the contentious 2016 primary fight continues to divide the party.The Hillary Clinton vs. Bernie Sanders rift is bubbling up in gubernatorial primaries. It’s pulsing through the race for Democratic National Committee chairman, and shaping state party leadership contests from Hawaii to Maine.Long after the Democratic presidential nomination was settled, the bruising 2016 primary fight continues to divide the party, hindering Democrats’ ability to unite and prompting national party leaders to tiptoe around the issue in the hopes of avoiding an outbreak of Sanders-Clinton proxy wars. The bitter defeat at the hands of Donald Trump has exacerbated the tensions, leading to the rise of “Bernie would have won” and “Bernie’s challenge helped sink Hillary” camps, even if the battles are rarely framed in such explicit terms. Now, with the chairmanship of the DNC and party nominations in multiple 2017 races at stake, some Democrats are desperately trying to strike a balance and remind rank-and-file activists of the real enemy.“The old-fashioned way to do this is to purge the party, but that’s not the way things work anymore,” said former Vermont governor and DNC chairman Howard Dean, who himself passed on a second run for the chairmanship in December specifically because he was worried about the prospect of an overly divisive race. “The party can’t win if it’s not inclusive, and the way to be inclusive is not to re-litigate the old battle. And there’s obviously some attempt to do that.”“There are some people who are itching to have this fight,” Dean, a 2004 presidential candidate and 2016 Clinton backer, added. “I think it’s silly, and I think they’re going to lose.”more at linkhttp://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/democrats-clinton-sanders-dnc-233648Mutha ****a Dean can eat shit and die! This is war and you establishment corporate ass kissers are going to lose …because we won’t stop fighting you …and now …we know who our real enemies are. You mutha ****as are un-American and all you do is hurt the common people so you can acquire the wealth you steal from all the rest of us. Yes we know it’s not all your fault …there are many power hungry sociopath assholes just like you playing the GOP side of the masses. You want a war …you ****ing got it!
MistaP (3402 posts) (Reply to original post) January 16, 2017 at 12:00 pm 1. let's see, in one corner we have a flint-voiced, self-regarding nonentitywith RW and hawkish instincts who slept her way to the middle whose campaign focused on Jew-baiting delivered by one of the squickiest gaping assholes of the last three decades of politics (darling David Brock) and managed to lose to a man her own campaign wanted as opponent and who admitted to lusting after his own daughter, despite the backing of every living president and most of the runners-up, and in the other corner America’s most loved and respected politician*, even by people who hate everything he stands for
jdpriestly (3125 posts) (Reply to original post) January 16, 2017 at 12:43 pm 4. Bernie would have won.The Hillary supporters are in denial. It’s one of the stages of grief. They’ll get over it and come around.They did all kinds of dirty tricks to prevent Bernie from winning even though if the primary had been fair, he would have won hands down. Now they can’t admit that they were wrong. They will in time. And then we have to watch out for the depression that will go through. That’s what will sink the party if we don’t save it with our Bernie delegates.Go, Bernie!
I tend to think that Trump would have beaten Bernie, because of the economy. Trump has a track record of producing jobs. Bernie has a record of producing stomach acid.
I can't figure out where Manny's primitives get this notion that the guy was endearing.He was a nasty old grouch who made even Richard Nixon appear warm and friendly.