From the 2016 postmortem forum
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 08:39 PM
Star Member FrenchieCat (68,755 posts)
If You FEEL IN YOUR GUT that Something STRANGE Occurred on Election Day....You may BE CORRECT! [View all]
Endless gibberish
127 votes, 3 passes | Time left: Unlimited
Yes, I believe, with great certainty that the vote count was manipulated against us
107 (84%)
Yes maybe we were hacked, but most likely not
2 (2%)
No, we just lost,even if the voting system's integrity is not 100% sound
10 (8%)
No, we just lost, and the voting system's integrity is sound
0 (0%)
Added per request: Possible but not enough evidence or information for a conclusion
8 (6%)
3 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
The "reality" based community.

Response to FrenchieCat (Original post)
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 08:52 PM
Star Member dhol82 (1,064 posts)
4. I think we are ****ed no matter what the screens show
Sadly, Hillary conceded. Not sure if we can do anything else at this time but cry.
Having the Orange turd in the whitehouse is at least colorful. That's about it.
We need to gather together and fight against the miasma that is emanating from Trump Tower and soon, DC.
Just got a flash of Saruman and the eye! ))
Olbermann is calling for resistance. Reich is calling for resistance.
I'm going for resistance.
You should go be fitted for a coat with sleeves that tie in the back.
Response to FrenchieCat (Original post)
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 08:59 PM
Star Member MoonRiver (26,964 posts)
5. It is a sickening prospect, but what to do?
Democrats have ignored this problem since 2000 when it first reared its ugly head. Many of us have been lobbying since then for this highly corruptible system to be fixed, preferably with paper ballots, all to no avail.
After 2000 you hated paper ballets because your base was too stupid to even punch holes properly.
Response to MoonRiver (Reply #5)
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 09:05 PM
Star Member FrenchieCat (68,755 posts)
8. Many states did change their machines after 2000....
Just not nearly enough of them.....
and some have a variety of voting apparatus.
If there is a GOP state Governor, even if Democrats pols would press the issue, I don't think it would matter.
It's the people that have to demand it.
You got what you screeched for and you still bitch.
There must be a sammich needing to be made somewhere Frenchie.
Response to FrenchieCat (Original post)
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 09:03 PM
Star Member Control-Z (11,059 posts)
7. Went aren't democrats doing anything about this?
We could at least try. We need to sue them all the way to the Supreme Court. Like they would if the tables were turned. Since when would we accept a vote that's been tampered with by the Russians and rogue FBI players?
He needs to be stopped before the electors vote. He should never be inaugurated. Never.
Calling the Secret Service...cleanup needed.
Response to Control-Z (Reply #7)
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 09:10 PM
Star Member FrenchieCat (68,755 posts)
11. There are a lot of reasons why they aren't doing anything...
I suspect the biggest of all is lack of solid proof, even if they have circumstantial data....I'm sure that isn't good enough to possibly start a civil war.
Or you mongrels are just stupid.
Response to cilla4progress (Reply #38)
Thu Nov 17, 2016, 01:32 AM
Star Member Control-Z (11,059 posts)
64. No, we don't deserve it.
Most of us have no idea how to go about stopping it. I've racked my brain trying to figure who to turn to. Which institutions? Which leaders?
I think it is apparent we have a majority who would want the election overturned if asked. If I had the ability to write a decent letter I would send one to President Obama, VP Biden, Hillary, Bill Clinton, Harry Reid, and my California Senators, Boxer and Feinstein. On the republican side - Lindsay Graham, at least. After those I'm out of ideas.
All I really know is we must stop Trump. And we can. It shouldn't take every voter writing a letter, either. Other than a bogus electoral college "win" there isn't one single argument for a Trump Presidency. Everyone knows he's not qualified. Everyone knows he's a liar and a cheat. Republicans know. His supporters know.
Even before the Russians admitted to it, pretty much everyone knew they were collaborating with the Trump campaign. And we all knew that the FBI, specifically James Comey, put out a big fat lie 2 weeks before the election for the sole purpose of turning people against Hillary Clinton. There does not need to be "proof" that these things changed what would have been the outcome of our election. The fact that rogue FBI operators and Russian organizations influenced the outcome is enough.
Suck it up buttercup.
Response to FrenchieCat (Original post)
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 09:09 PM
Star Member oasis (29,199 posts)
10. The whole damn thing stinks. There will be books written about it.
It will be titled "Crybaby Losers".
Response to FrenchieCat (Original post)
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 09:13 PM
Star Member Snarkoleptic (4,384 posts)
12. Russian hackers surgically manipulated the results, making Karl Rove and
his merry band of miscreants look like rank amateurs.
IMHO

Response to FrenchieCat (Original post)
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 09:16 PM
Star Member trueblue2007 (7,513 posts)
14. TRUMP IS A CROOK. Somehow the election was stolen. Will we ever know the truth?
Now 2 weeks ago you all were saying how awful it would be if we didn`t accept Clintoon as the winner.
Response to LenaBaby61 (Reply #25)
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 09:54 PM
Star Member FrenchieCat (68,755 posts)
27. And then of course DU went down.....for an entire week!
That struck me odd as well....
as this is where we would have been all over "Odd" occurrences as they were happening....
but we didn't get to do that!
People turn to you for laughs.
Response to FrenchieCat (Reply #27)
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 10:05 PM
Star Member pandr32 (2,485 posts)
31. It was to keep us from being able to coalesce
We would not hear of problems as they happened and send out help. People were searching online for info, but it was spotty and hard to verify. DU being down cut Dems off at the knees.

Response to FrenchieCat (Original post)
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 10:08 PM
Star Member ericson00 (2,614 posts)
34. can we not become like Freepers and Breitbart types...people who make up their own facts
outside of reality bc they can't accept it? Is like how they spread lies that Trump was actually winning the popular vote, which he's not.
I wonder how a touch of sanity will go over?
Response to ericson00 (Reply #34)
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 10:12 PM
Star Member FrenchieCat (68,755 posts)
37. Can we not tell other people what to do and how to think,
cause that's not our job?
Gee,never saw that coming.
Response to FrenchieCat (Original post)
Thu Nov 17, 2016, 12:23 AM
Star Member liberalla (4,033 posts)
60. Well i've been feeling that for a week and yes, my gut is pretty reliable...
but i want a definitive answer. We need an investigation, by someone we can trust.
Thank you FrencieCat for all your work on this! Great job!
truth is all (Charnin) will be all over it with SPREADSHEETS!!