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Yes, 17 intelligence agencies really did say Russia was behind hacking


Source: usaToday


Eliza Collins , USA TODAY 2:45 p.m. EDT October 21, 2016


...................................................................The fact-checking website Politifact says Hillary Clinton is correct when she says 17 federal intelligence agencies have concluded that Russia is behind the hacking.

“We have 17, 17 intelligence agencies, civilian and military who have all concluded that these espionage attacks, these cyber attacks, come from the highest levels of the Kremlin. And they are designed to influence our election. I find that deeply disturbing,” Clinton said during Wednesday's presidential debate in Las Vegas.

Trump pushed back, saying that Clinton and the United States had “no idea whether it is Russia, China or anybody else.”

But Clinton is correct. On Oct. 7, the Department of Homeland Security and Office of the Director of National Intelligence issued a joint statement on behalf of the U.S. Intelligence Community. The USIC is made up of 16 agencies, in addition to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence............................

Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/10/21/17-intelligence-agencies-russia-behind-hacking/92514592/?hootPostID=7cbbe3898bbc39a351f83a13a7ba4568
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Then the consensus is in, just like with global warming? 

Democrats have been all over TV repeating this "17 intelligence agencies" nonsense.  I don't want to sound like the old sourassed sourpuss bellyaching about there being too many different kinds of underarm deodorants, but do we really need 17 different intelligence agencies?  Do we even really have 17 different intelligence agencies?  I'm not buying it.  If democrats are all over TV saying it, it must be a lie.

There were intelligence agencies that sided with Cankles on her Benghazi lies and other BS that the democrats have spewed that later was found out to be a pack of lies.  The FBI is hopelessly politicized, thanks to Cankle's toady Comey.  The democrats must have puppets installed in key positions all throughout the government.

They lie all the time.

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Re: 17 intelligence agencies really really did say Russia was behind hacking
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2016, 09:32:24 AM »
OK, let's play their game for a few seconds. Let's pretend the Russians really did hack The CHILL's email server (and ignore Libs/Progs' denials that it was hacked), the DNC's email, Podesta's (and other individuals') email. Let's pretend the US really has gutted the efficiency of US intelligence agencies by having 17 such that are duplicating much of what they do 17-fold. Let's stipulate for the sake of "discussion" all that absurdity.

WHAT!  DOES!  IT!  MATTER?!!!

Stipulating all those smoke screens does not change the fact that the Ds and their MSM operatives-with-press-credentials have committed massive corruption and collusion, and, in some instances, violent crime!
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Re: 17 intelligence agencies really really did say Russia was behind hacking
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2016, 09:44:40 AM »
I can guarantee the USCG (one of the listed 17 intel agencies) has no idea who hacked what.  The key is that every one of those agencies works for O'bummer/jarret who want it to be the Ruskies.

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Re: 17 intelligence agencies really really did say Russia was behind hacking
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2016, 09:52:21 AM »
"Awww, no fair having our corruption exposed!"  :bawl:

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Re: 17 intelligence agencies really really did say Russia was behind hacking
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2016, 10:00:47 AM »
"Awww, no fair having our corruption exposed!"  :bawl:

Exactly! "No fair!!! We shouldn't have got caught!!!!!!!!!"
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Re: 17 intelligence agencies really really did say Russia was behind hacking
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2016, 11:05:01 AM »
For what reason do I have to believe any intelligence agency under the control of the Obama administration?

None, that's how many reasons.

Liberals lie all the time. They lie.

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Re: 17 intelligence agencies really really did say Russia was behind hacking
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2016, 12:14:41 PM »
So are we to believe her reset button gimmick was a complete failure then?

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Re: 17 intelligence agencies really really did say Russia was behind hacking
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2016, 12:39:04 PM »
For what reason do I have to believe any intelligence agency under the control of the Obama administration?

None, that's how many reasons.

My thoughts, exactly.
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Re: 17 intelligence agencies really really did say Russia was behind hacking
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2016, 12:39:47 PM »
So are we to believe her reset button gimmick was a complete failure then?

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Re: 17 intelligence agencies really really did say Russia was behind hacking
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2016, 12:42:28 PM »
For what reason do I have to believe any intelligence agency under the control of the Obama administration?

None, that's how many reasons.

Liberals lie all the time. They lie.

My thoughts, exactly.

The same "intelligence" agencies who fudged the intel about ISIS on BHO's orders? For years?!
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Re: 17 intelligence agencies really really did say Russia was behind hacking
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2016, 01:16:10 PM »
Everything that Obama and his regime have said has been found to be a lie. This is a lie.

Oh and....

If you like your 17 intelligence agencies, you can keep your intelligence agencies.
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Re: 17 intelligence agencies really really did say Russia was behind hacking
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2016, 05:10:38 PM »
OK, let's play their game for a few seconds. Let's pretend the Russians really did hack The CHILL's email server (and ignore Libs/Progs' denials that it was hacked), the DNC's email, Podesta's (and other individuals') email. Let's pretend the US really has gutted the efficiency of US intelligence agencies by having 17 such that are duplicating much of what they do 17-fold. Let's stipulate for the sake of "discussion" all that absurdity.

WHAT!  DOES!  IT!  MATTER?!!!

Stipulating all those smoke screens does not change the fact that the Ds and their MSM operatives-with-press-credentials have committed massive corruption and collusion, and, in some instances, violent crime!

Standard fare with the left:

It is always about the source, and NEVER about the content.

That is how the dump operates, and that is how the democrat party operates.


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Re: 17 intelligence agencies really really did say Russia was behind hacking
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2016, 05:37:17 PM »
Wait a minute now. Didn't DU essentially tell me for 8 years (W era) that you couldn't believe a thing that US intelligence agencies said? Now they are the gold standard?
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Re: 17 intelligence agencies really really did say Russia was behind hacking
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2016, 05:56:56 PM »
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On Oct. 7, the Department of Homeland Security and Office of the Director of National Intelligence issued a joint statement on behalf of the U.S. Intelligence Community. The USIC is made up of 16 agencies, in addition to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence...

That is not anything at all like all 16 of those constituent agencies each making a finding that the Russians hacked anything.  In fact it boils down to one office or agency saying it and the other one involved in the 'joint statement' agreeing, without even making its own distinct finding.
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Re: 17 intelligence agencies really really did say Russia was behind hacking
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2016, 06:19:50 PM »
The same "intelligence" agencies who fudged the intel about ISIS on BHO's orders? For years?!

...and willingly, it would seem.

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« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2016, 06:21:30 PM »
Wait a minute now. Didn't DU essentially tell me for 8 years (W era) that you couldn't believe a thing that US intelligence agencies said? Now they are the gold standard?

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Re: 17 intelligence agencies really really did say Russia was behind hacking
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2016, 06:52:32 PM »
That is not anything at all like all 16 of those constituent agencies each making a finding that the Russians hacked anything.  In fact it boils down to one office or agency saying it and the other one involved in the 'joint statement' agreeing, without even making its own distinct finding.

Thanks for the explanation, I should've figured that it would be something like that.  I've found that it just saves time to assume that they are lying and not waste my time digging for the truth.
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Re: 17 intelligence agencies really really did say Russia was behind hacking
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2016, 08:43:28 PM »
I can guarantee the USCG (one of the listed 17 intel agencies) has no idea who hacked what.  The key is that every one of those agencies works for O'bummer/jarret who want it to be the Ruskies.

The Energy Dept?  The State Dept?  Treasury?  What in the hell do these agencies have to do with intelligence gathering?

This is just another smoke screen by USA today.
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Re: 17 intelligence agencies really really did say Russia was behind hacking
« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2016, 09:57:13 PM »
Thanks for the explanation, I should've figured that it would be something like that.  I've found that it just saves time to assume that they are lying and not waste my time digging for the truth.

Think of it this way, it's like saying 330 million Americans support banning semiautomatic rifles and bringing in a million Islamic refugees, because that's what Obama wants to do and he represents 330 million Americans.

It's STUPID logic, about the sort of trash thinking you should expect from a Democrat flack rag like USA Today, but it's embarrassing that stuff like this goes unchallenged by the American public.
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Re: 17 intelligence agencies really really did say Russia was behind hacking
« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2016, 04:21:18 AM »
Are these the same intelligence sources that for a month said Benghazi was the result of a video? 

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Re: 17 intelligence agencies really really did say Russia was behind hacking
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« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2016, 05:37:17 PM »
Wait a minute now. Didn't DU essentially tell me for 8 years (W era) that you couldn't believe a thing that US intelligence agencies said? Now they are the gold standard?
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