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Offline franksolich

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poll: who needs to worry?
« on: September 30, 2016, 02:08:58 PM »
You know, I get the vast majority of my "news" from Skins's island and Manny's jackass message board--mostly because many conservative sources have web-sites hostile to Internet Explorer and so unless one's got six dozen different browsers downloaded on the computer, one can't get in to read them.

The other side seems to have "gotten it" a long time ago--if one wishes one's "message" to get around, it needs to be as accessible as possible to the greatest number of people.....which means "adaptable" to just any old browser a reader's using.

And yeah, I'm aware I'm being subtly brain-washed, but I'm pretty sure I'll be long sprung loose of this mortal coil before I start voting Democrat and somesuch.

Anyway.

For months now, I've read as primitives from Skins's island and Manny's jackass primitives have argued that the (R) candidate for the presidency has no chance; that their candidate Messalina Agrippina is inevitably going to whip his ass, and good.

Okay.  I'm not happy with that, and am doing my best, my utmost, to aid and assist and succor the (R) candidate even though the primitives insist it's futile.  These times demand that one do what one has to do, regardless of whether or not one thinks it'll do any good.  If one has to do it, one should do it.

The primitives--from Skins's and Manny's separate parcels of real-estate--say it's all in the bag for Messalina Agrippina; that the (R) candidate's going to be lucky to carry even four of the fifty states, that the (R)s are going to lose twenty seats in the Senate and 200 in the House of Representatives, that no (R)'s going to get elected governor anywhere.

Given the primitives' track record, they're probably right.

But how come they all seem so nervous, so on edge, biting their fingernails?  I mean, they're sure winners, so how come they're not uncorking the champagne bottles yet?
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Re: poll: who needs to worry?
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2016, 02:36:54 PM »
Their track record on predictions is not that good, only right in 2012 and 2008. Besides the midterms in 2006, they have been wrong about every other election since the beginning.

They ALWAYS predict they're going to win in a landslide and I don't think they really believe it this time but then they are emotionally small children. I think it's funny how they slobber all over that Nate Silver person, when Obama fed him internal polling results the last two presidential elections. Other than that, he has been wrong each and every time.

There's all kinds of mistakes in their "logic" - macho POC will vote for Hillary in the margins they did for Obama, Sanders voters will "come home", once a state goes Dem, it never comes back, and so on.

But I want them to think they are ahead, then maybe their lazy voters won't bother. There's all kinds of indications that Trump will win but they shouldn't worry about that.
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Re: poll: who needs to worry?
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2016, 02:52:49 PM »
Given that they live in a world opposite normal people they should be very worried given what they are certain of.
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Re: poll: who needs to worry?
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2016, 03:49:15 PM »
I'm not sure that is a complete poll. But I will tell you who is PANICKING. The establishment, the globalists, the "elite".  The DUmbasses being really DUmb, they are doing what that small group of powerful people tell them to do. So I voted DUchebags are worring...
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Re: poll: who needs to worry?
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2016, 05:12:56 PM »
Quote from: Tess Anderson on September 30, 2016, 02:36:54 PM
Their track record on predictions is not that good, only right in 2012 and 2008. Besides the midterms in 2006, they have been wrong about every other election since the beginning.

In the primitive perception, though, they haven't been wrong yet.  Never.

You and I know the facts of the matter, but we're dealing with people for whom in what they believe is more important than facts.

Carter almost beat Reagan, Bill was more popular than Reagan, Barack won two landslides, blah, blah, blah.

As you and I know, madam, Carter lost in an epic landslide in 1980, Bill was the only president elected two times where he didn't win a majority of the vote at least one time, and no president's won in a "landslide" since the elder George Bush in 1988.
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Re: poll: who needs to worry?
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2016, 05:28:24 PM »
Also, Coach, there has been very little mention of the fact that it's very difficult for one party to retain the White House for three consecutive terms.  George H. W. Bush did it, and before that, FDR and Harry S. Truman kept the Dems in the White House for five consecutive terms.
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Re: poll: who needs to worry?
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2016, 06:14:27 PM »
I chose the primitives as the ones who ought to be worried.

Conservatives seem to be cautiously optimistic about the coming election.  There have been a few hiccups along the way--Trump beating Cruz in the primary and FBI director Comey letting the crooked old cow Cankles off scot free.

But leftists are riding up and down on an emotional roller coaster.  Giddy with delight about taco trucks on every corner one week and then in a panic about Cankles collapsing in a twitching heap the next.  Filled with dread thinking about the high probability of Cankles having seizures or a coughing fit in mid-debate then riding high again with a BS story about Trump fat shaming a beauty queen/gang moll.  I predict a few more loop de loops for the primitives between now and election day.  I hope they all get ulcers.
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Re: poll: who needs to worry?
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2016, 06:21:58 PM »
Just to be clear,I am not delusional about things either.
The blue wall is real and means that somewhere in the range of 10-15% of the population has a large impact on Presidential elections.
That is NYC,LA and San Fran/Oakland plus a few smaller urban areas in NY,California and the northwest.

Still though if the reporting is true and Shill has given up on Ohio and with Florida maybe okay it means they are simply hoping for a 271-275 electoral victory.

Turnout is the key and I still suspect that there will be a far greater "sick of politicians" voters that no professional pundits are accounting for and they will go for Trump.
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Re: poll: who needs to worry?
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2016, 06:51:23 PM »
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Still though if the reporting is true and Shill has given up on Ohio and with Florida maybe okay it means they are simply hoping for a 271-275 electoral victory.

I guess you have not heard. According to leftist newspapers, but what newspaper is not a democrat party mouthpiece. Ohio and Florida no longer matter in the EC.  Soon, Virginia, and North Carolina (come on more blm riots!) won't matter either. JUST GET OUT AND VOTE blacks and LGBTs!!!! This is totally Hillary Clintoris's election.
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Re: poll: who needs to worry?
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2016, 07:54:55 PM »
Quote from: Carl on September 30, 2016, 06:21:58 PM
Turnout is the key and I still suspect that there will be a far greater "sick of politicians" voters that no professional pundits are accounting for and they will go for Trump.

Agreed.   :II:
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Re: poll: who needs to worry?
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2016, 08:24:47 PM »
Monday afternoon, I caught a snippet of Rush's show.  He referenced a comment on some message board on the 'Net, written by a Dem from somewhere in Manhattan.  Said poster mentioned that they were going to vote for Trump, then deny doing it the next day--and said poster added, "Just like 40 million other Americans."

Maybe the "Silent Majority" really does exist in huge yuge numbers.  Remember that polls across the pond taken on the eve of the Brexit vote had it losing by 10 points.. I think that the final margin of victory was 4 points.  So, there was a 14-point discrepancy there that the polls didn't catch.  Nigel Farage, who led the UKIP through the Brexit victory, said that the same spirit exists over here in Donald Trump.  He thinks that there will be a similar result here.
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Re: poll: who needs to worry?
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2016, 09:12:00 PM »
AS many have said, turnout is everything.  The preference polls mean nothing if one side is fired up and the other is lukewarm on voting.
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Re: poll: who needs to worry?
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2016, 09:16:33 PM »
I'm of the mindset that both sides should be worried.

Presidency... No matter how you cut it, we're dealing with two very unpopular candidates.  Let's face it, both of them probably have more skeletons in their closet than any of us can even dream of.  I'm cautiously optimistic Trump can pull this off, just because of the people who are sick of the status quo politicians.

Senate.... I'm concerned about the Senate... I think we're going to hold it, but it's going to be close I think, might even end up tied.

I'll admit I'm not a fan of Trump, and would have GREATLY preferred Cruz.. but if Trump does 3 things, I will consider voting for him a good compromise:

1.  Build the freaking wall (I'm pretty sure he's going to do this, if he doesn't and he wins, he will never get a second term)

2.  Appoint TRUE, Scalia-like judges to SCOTUS (probably going to be at least 3 if he's in 1 term, and probably 4 if he hits 2 terms).  To me, this might be the most important issue of all, since Liberals seem to enjoy using SCOTUS to change laws, push social policy, etc.

3.  Don't mess w/ gun rights.

I've got others, but those are my big 3.
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