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Offline Ralph Wiggum

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Phony Heroes
« on: July 18, 2016, 10:04:17 PM »
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Phony Heroes

I suppose they've been out and about in and after every war, but never has it seemed so many "heroes" can't wait to foist their exploits upon the population. The movies don't help (and of course there were a slew of movies related to WWII) but these last conflicts have brought out Seals who normally are reticent, soldiers who know better than to brag about the horrors of war, and Generals, especially Generals to lap-up the limelight.

Along those lines, most of the people I've seen brandishing their war bona fides like that hollow headed Cotton kid from Arkansas are phony bullshitters. Grey Davis, John Kerry, Bob Kerrey and hell, even Bob Dole never played up their time in uniform to this degree. And the Benghazi defenders really need to check themselves. Senator Cotton is a shameless shill for the ruination of Iraq and Afghanistan without an ounce of remorse for the years of hell and death we have unleashed on the poor people of those countries. I'm willing to bet he was a shit-stain soldier who's "buddies" hated him for being a 24-7 chickenshit asshole. 

What did the people of Iraq ever do to the people of the United States???



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Re: Phony Heroes
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2016, 10:12:35 PM »
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On the floor of the Senate on March 27, 1986, Sen. John Kerry issued this statement: “I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have the President of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia. I have that memory which is seared — seared — in me.”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2004/aug/9/20040809-090612-9480r/

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Re: Phony Heroes
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2016, 10:41:25 PM »
Had "shadowmayor" really cared to learn something of Senator Cotton's military service, (s)he could have started with the relevant Wikipedia page. Senator Cotton is no phony, not that DU-folk care about facts.
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Re: Phony Heroes
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2016, 11:30:59 PM »
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Re: Phony Heroes
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2016, 06:04:28 AM »
A week or so ago DU-folk and other Libs & Progs were claiming that police officer who was murdered in Dallas was a white supremacist, and now this sneer. Among the defining characteristics of Progs and the more extreme liberals is their instinctive need to slime good people in all walks of life - e.g. successful business people and farmers, religious people who live what they believe (with the exception of those of one particular religion), police officers (especially those killed in the line of duty), people who have served in the armed forces (especially those killed ...).
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Re: Phony Heroes
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2016, 06:14:13 AM »
Quote from: SVPete on July 19, 2016, 06:04:28 AM
A week or so ago DU-folk and other Libs & Progs were claiming that police officer who was murdered in Dallas was a white supremacist, and now this sneer. Among the defining characteristics of Progs and the more extreme liberals is their instinctive need to slime good people in all walks of life - e.g. successful business people and farmers, religious people who live what they believe (with the exception of those of one particular religion), police officers (especially those killed in the line of duty), people who have served in the armed forces (especially those killed ...).

BUT they NEVER bring up what low life scum with a long criminal record the [dummie mode] poor little black child, dad, son or brother, on their knees with their hands up[/dummie mode] the police murdered shot defending themselves in the street. I am so sick of all of their garbage. And any good guy they try to find the least little thing they can twist into something to make them look bad.

I just saw on FOX News that one of the guys who stopped a terrorist on the train last year...the left found a picture of him wearing a Trump MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN  shirt and are now accusing him of being a racist among other things. Who ever said liberalism is a mental disorder was so right.
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Re: Phony Heroes
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2016, 07:01:07 AM »
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I'm willing to bet he was a shit-stain soldier who's "buddies" hated him for being a 24-7 chickenshit asshole.

Talk about an asshole!  What an all-around, uncalled for, shitty thread starter.  He got no recs and no replies. 
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Re: Phony Heroes
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2016, 07:23:27 AM »
Quote from: SVPete on July 19, 2016, 06:04:28 AM
A week or so ago DU-folk and other Libs & Progs were claiming that police officer who was murdered in Dallas was a white supremacist, and now this sneer. Among the defining characteristics of Progs and the more extreme liberals is their instinctive need to slime good people in all walks of life - e.g. successful business people and farmers, religious people who live what they believe (with the exception of those of one particular religion), police officers (especially those killed in the line of duty), people who have served in the armed forces (especially those killed ...).
Those groups are typically at odds with communists...class struggle and all that   :jerkit:
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Re: Phony Heroes
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2016, 07:33:11 AM »
Quote from: Karin on July 19, 2016, 07:01:07 AM
Talk about an asshole!  What an all-around, uncalled for, shitty thread starter.  He got no recs and no replies.

Evidently Senator Cotton was a speaker yesterday at the R Convention, which is probably what inspired the rant quoted in the OP.

From the Wikipedia article I linked above:

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In 1998, Cotton was accepted into a master's degree program at Claremont Graduate University. He left in 1999, saying that he found academic life "too sedentary", enrolling in Harvard Law School, where he received his J.D. degree in June 2002.
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Immediately after finishing law school in 2002, Cotton served for a year as a clerk for Judge Jerry Edwin Smith at the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit. He then entered private practice, working at Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher for a few months, and at Cooper & Kirk from 2003 to 2004.
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On January 11, 2005, Cotton joined active duty forces of the United States Army. According to his recruiter, Lt. Col. Roger Jones, commander of Army Recruiting Battalion Houston, Cotton decided not to pursue a commission as an officer at the rank of Captain in the Judge Advocate General's Corps, United States Army, the typical rank and specialty for a person with his education and training. Instead, Cotton chose to enlist under the US Army's Officer/Warrant Officer Enlistment Program, Enlistment Option 9D at the rank of Specialist or Corporal, with the guaranteed opportunity to Officer Candidate School and pursue a commission as a military officer. ...

In March 2005, Cotton entered Officer Candidate School, and in June 2005 was commissioned as a 2nd Lieutenant in the U.S. Army. He was initially stationed at Fort Benning, Georgia, where he entered a 14-week Officer’s Basic Course. After completing OBC in November 2005, Cotton attended the U.S. Army Airborne School as well as Ranger School and Air Assault School.
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In May 2006, Cotton deployed to Baghdad as part of Operation Iraqi Freedom as a platoon leader with the 101st Airborne Division. In Iraq, he led a 41-man air assault infantry platoon in the 506th Infantry Regiment, and planned and performed daily combat patrols.
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In October 2008, Cotton deployed to eastern Afghanistan. He was stationed within the Regional Command East at its Gamberi Forward operating base (FOB) located in one of the command's 14 province locations, Laghman Province. The overall mission at Cotton's duty station – the Gamberi FOB from April 2008 to June 2009, during Operation Enduring Freedom IX ... Cotton said his assigned duty was as a military logistics officer of a Provincial Reconstruction Team, where he also helped plan logistical operations for counter-insurgency. Cotton's 11-month deployment to Gamberi FOB in Laghan province ended when he returned from Afghanistan on July 20, 2009.

There's a lot in that bio for a DU-Prog to hate: leaving law practice to join the Army; choosing a combat role over JAG; attending Ranger school; combat leadership; working to (re)build Afghanistan  from the terrorists wanting to keep the country a 7th Century hell-hole.
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Re: Phony Heroes
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2016, 07:38:48 AM »
John Kerry was in Vietnam?

Did anyone else know this?
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Re: Phony Heroes
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2016, 07:44:48 AM »
Quote from: Carl on July 19, 2016, 07:38:48 AM
John Kerry was in Vietnam?

Did anyone else know this?

Really?  John Effin' Kerry was in Vietnam?  The babykiller!

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Re: Phony Heroes
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2016, 06:45:16 PM »
Quote from: Carl on July 19, 2016, 07:38:48 AM
John Kerry was in Vietnam?

Did anyone else know this?

No, that was just his cover story.  He was actually a double-aught spy in Cambodia.  Code name: Mashed Potato Face.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/211835/kerrys-christmas-cambodia-byron-york
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