Did Skinner Chicken Out Again?

[pjcomix]

Over an hour and a half ago I saw the following message from Skinner:

 

Skinner (61,945 posts)                                                          Mon Jun 20, 2016, 11:59 AM

Democratic Underground will be going offline shortly.

In order to transition to General Election season, the Democratic Underground website will be going offline shortly, and should be down for no longer than one hour.

Thank you for your understanding.

Skinner

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10137246

And then.....nothing. DUmmieland remained online since then. "Shortly" never happened. So did Skinner CHICKEN OUT yet again? Also why would that idiot schedule going offline in the MIDDLE OF THE DAY as opposed to say 2 or 3 in the morning?

[FiddyBeowulf]

Over an hour and a half ago I saw the following message from Skinner:

 
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10137246

And then.....nothing. DUmmieland remained online since then. "Shortly" never happened. So did Skinner CHICKEN OUT yet again? Also why would that idiot schedule going offline in the MIDDLE OF THE DAY as opposed to say 2 or 3 in the morning?

The middle of the day is the DUmmie version of 2 or 3 in the morning. Especially when you do not have job to go to.

[franksolich]

Well now, I wouldn't question Skins; there's always been a reason, and a very good one, for things he's done.

And remember, this is the guy who proved himself brighter than the entire amoebic mass of Bernie bullies, even when one factored in Skippy.

So I'd just sit back, relax, and watch.

[pjcomix]

Okay, it looks like he finally pulled the trigger. DUmmieland now offline. But why didn't he do that in the early AM hours rather than in the middle of a busy day?

[Big Dog]

Okay, it looks like he finally pulled the trigger. DUmmieland now offline. But why didn't he do that in the early AM hours rather than in the middle of a busy day?

He had to catch the webmonkey (whichever of the other two, I forget which) between "wake" and "bake".

[franksolich]

He had to catch the webmonkey (whichever of the other two, I forget which) between "wake" and "bake".

That would be the elusive enigmatic Elad, who lives out in Oregon while Skins and Lord Marblehead EarlG live near Washington, D.C.

Elad, although part of the big three, isn't a partner, but simply a paid employee, the computer expert.

One has to be wary around Elad; he's sneaky.

[Ralph Wiggum]

The transition of the DUmp will represent the "best" of Lenin & Stalin.

[franksolich]

Okay, it's back up again.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10137292

Skinner (61,946 posts)    Mon Jun 20, 2016, 02:20 PM

Welcome to General Election Season 2016
 
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[franksolich]

Well, the Bernie bullies are whining again, on Manny's jackass message board, but I can't find exactly what it is they're whining about.

According to them, the first time one tries to post on the new DU, a pop-up shows up, requiring them to "sign" a "loyalty oath."

I don't see it myself, but it could just be that Skins is doing a fellow alum a personal favor.

[I_B_Perky]

Well, the Bernie bullies are whining again, on Manny's jackass message board, but I can't find exactly what it is they're whining about.

According to them, the first time one tries to post on the new DU, a pop-up shows up, requiring them to "sign" a "loyalty oath."

I don't see it myself, but it could just be that Skins is doing a fellow alum a personal favor.

That is probably only for the known bernie bots.

[BattleHymn]

That is probably only for the known bernie bots.

I was thinking the same thing.  Skins must have kept a list of dissenters.

Anyone with a berniebot mole that can confirm this? 

[franksolich]

I was thinking the same thing.  Skins must have kept a list of dissenters.

I surely hope he did, and I surely hope the list is comprehensive.

And I surely hope he makes them kiss ass ten times harder, when they apply for re-admission, which of course nearly all of them will, sooner or later.

[BattleHymn]

I surely hope he did, and I surely hope the list is comprehensive.

And I surely hope he makes them kiss ass ten times harder, when they apply for re-admission, which of course nearly all of them will, sooner or later.

Over at the Jackass site, they are saying that the page is the TOS that they have to agree to.  The text can be found here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice

Don't keep fighting the last Democratic presidential primary
Regardless of whether you supported a winning candidate or a losing candidate, do not prolong the agony of the last Democratic presidential primary by continuing to pick fights, place blame, tear down former primary candidates, bait former supporters, or do anything else to pour salt on old wounds.
Why we have this rule: Most of our members want this to be forward-looking, friendly community that is focused on creating a better future for our country. Continuing to rehash old fights that have already been resolved is divisive and counter-productive.

The fact that many of them even bothered to visit the site to even know they had to sign the updated TOS is probably a good bellwether on most of them returning. 

[SVPete]

Well, the Bernie bullies are whining again, on Manny's jackass message board, but I can't find exactly what it is they're whining about.

According to them, the first time one tries to post on the new DU, a pop-up shows up, requiring them to "sign" a "loyalty oath."

I don't see it myself, but it could just be that Skins is doing a fellow alum a personal favor.

Isn't the "loyalty oath" already part of DU's TOC the Berniebots signed long ago when they registered? Or at least an earlier version thereof? Time for them to

[franksolich]

Oh now, this is totally ridiculous, from Manny's jackass message board, where the jackals are discussing the new terms of service for Skins's island:

greymouse    Today, 10:00 PM #12 

Why are you going over there when each time you do Skinner makes money off you?

We've been through this all before, but I guess given the retardedness of the Bernie bullies, it hasn't yet sunk in.

A "click" on a site doesn't add up to much, maybe a tenth of a cent per click, so why the worry about making an adversary "rich."  It's not worth worrying about, dumbass.

[BattleHymn]

Oh now, this is totally ridiculous, from Manny's jackass message board, where the jackals are discussing the new terms of service for Skins's island:

We've been through this all before, but I guess given the retardedness of the Bernie bullies, it hasn't yet sunk in.

A "click" on a site doesn't add up to much, maybe a tenth of a cent per click, so why the worry about making an adversary "rich."  It's not worth worrying about, dumbass.

A few tenths of a cent is a lot of money for a primitive.  For most of them, $100 is an almost unheard of fortune that they only dream of acquiring one day.

[franksolich]

A few tenths of a cent is a lot of money for a primitive.  For most of them, $100 is an almost unheard of fortune that they only dream of acquiring one day.

Well, I think it's not worth worrying about; I've clicked on things on Manny's jackass message board lots and lots of times, and I really doubt it's increased his coffers much.

[FiddyBeowulf]

A few tenths of a cent is a lot of money for a primitive.  For most of them, $100 is an almost unheard of fortune that they only dream of acquiring one day.

DUmmies at the fair:
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