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primitives discuss the race being over
« on: May 05, 2016, 12:45:37 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511904094

Oh my.

Say it's not so, Joe.  :sarcasm:

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realmirage (430 posts)    Thu May 5, 2016, 09:02 AM

Bernie mathematically eliminated. The race is over.
 
Supers will never, ever back a losing candidate. Sanders cannot mathematically win with pledged delegates. That's a fact. This thing is cooked well done. Sanders' strategy to steal the election from the American people with SDs? Ask any unicorn- it's a fantasy. Why is GDP still here? To fight a phantom war in the 5th dimension?

Reality, it's your friend!

http://bluenationreview.com/bernie-has-been-mathematically-eliminated-from-winning-with-pledged-delegates/

<<<thinks Joe, above, needs to talk with idiot girl on Manny's jackass message board about that.

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virtualobserver (6,898 posts)    Thu May 5, 2016, 09:05 AM

1. Bernie can, in fact, finish with a majority of pledged delegates....
 
Hillary will not clinch a win with pledged delegates.

That is reality.

Oh lawrdy, lawrdy, lawrdy.....

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mercuryblues (3,331 posts)    Thu May 5, 2016, 10:14 AM

15. Hillary can, in fact, finish with a majority of pledged delegates
 
As she is already far ahead of Bernie.

Bernie will not clinch a win with pledged delegates

That is also a reality.

^^^yeah, that.

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Hortensis (6,794 posts)    Thu May 5, 2016, 12:50 PM

34. Int'l Biz Times: "mathematically impossible for Sanders"
 
"Bernie Sanders may have won the Indiana primary Tuesday night, but his victory is unlikely to save his proclaimed political revolution. After this week, it is mathematically impossible for Sanders to reach the number of delegates necessary to win the Democratic nomination using pledged delegates alone."

This means the Vermont senator will have to rely on his strategy of winning over superdelegates — party leaders and elites who can back the candidate of their choice — who have already decided to back his rival Hillary Clinton. But Clinton has so far won 520 superdelegates to his 39, making it unlikely that he can move forward down this path. 

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virtualobserver (6,898 posts)    Thu May 5, 2016, 12:52 PM

35. all Bernie has to do is win a majority of the pledged delegates
 
the party will not override that.

Geezuz, this guy's obstinate in his willful stupidity.

Somebody needs to kick him in the nuts, to shock him into the real world.

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Hortensis (6,794 posts)    Thu May 5, 2016, 01:00 PM

38. He CANNOT. Go read again. There are not enough left.
 
As for "The party will not override that," it's good that you realize that.

Hillary will have the requisite 2383 pledged delegates, plus more, and the popular vote.

She will also have hundreds of superdelegate votes, but won't need them, having won on pledged alone.

It's fine for Bernie to continue to campaign, but the GOP has moved to GE battle against us, and it is not okay for Bernie to undermine the Democratic Party. We are already fighting the GE, whether we have officially finished up the primary or not. 

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virtualobserver (6,898 posts)    Thu May 5, 2016, 01:06 PM

40. No..2383 is a majority of ALL Delegates....Bernie needs 2026 to have a majority of pledged delegates

<<<because of the big deal the Bernie bullies have made of it this year, expects to have nightmares about the meaningless number "2026" for years to come.....

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Hortensis (6,794 posts)    Thu May 5, 2016, 12:40 PM

29. CNN agrees it is mathematically impossible for Sanders to win
 
enough delegates in the remaining Democratic contests to secure the nomination. CNN says

Bernie has to have 2383. He has 1444. Only 933 remain. 1444 + 933 = 2377.

And of course almost no superdelegates are going to switch to the losing candidate. He's already out of contention and in nuisance obstruction mode, but the longer he delays conceding the longer he can both continue to accept donations and push Democrats to make a deal for something he wants.

(The donations can be used both for his reelection in 2020 and to fund candidacies of people Bernie approves of, so one way or the other they will be used politically, just not to elect him president.)

Btw, Hillary only needs 165 more delegates to reach 2383. Unfortunately*, only 185 are available this month, so if Bernie does not make a deal with the Democratic Party and concede before then, the June 7 California primary is when she will pass 2383 to officially clinch the nomination.

*yeah, unfortunately that.
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Re: primitives discuss the race being over
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2016, 01:54:11 PM »
Well, here's at least one Clinton superdelegate who they won't be able to 'turn' . . .

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/05/05/clinton-superdelegate-sheldon-silver-gets-12-years-in-prison-6-75m-bill/
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Re: primitives discuss the race being over
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2016, 02:21:42 PM »
^^  Cleaning out NY corruption is like cleaning out the Augean Stables.  It's shameful.  Why can't this state rise up and toss all these bums out? 


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Re: primitives discuss the race being over
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2016, 05:01:08 PM »
^^  Cleaning out NY corruption is like cleaning out the Augean Stables.  It's shameful.  Why can't this state rise up and toss all these bums out?

I think that Lieutenant Ripley has the best guidance in this case. :whistling:
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Re: primitives discuss the race being over
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2016, 05:14:18 PM »
I think that Lieutenant Ripley has the best guidance in this case. :whistling:

I think it was Cpl Hicks


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Re: primitives discuss the race being over
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Hortensis (6,794 posts)    Thu May 5, 2016, 01:00 PM

38. He CANNOT. Go read again. There are not enough left.
 
As for "The party will not override that," it's good that you realize that.

Does that take into account dice rolls and card flips?  Maybe Bernie could have a lucky streak like Cankles had and turn this thing around yet.
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