http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280179615Oh my.
The Bernie bullies are taking that significant loss seriously.
If they'd only realized Methuselah never stood a chance anyway, they wouldn't be so bothered.
Fast Walker 52 (2,222 posts) Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:38 PM
Oh Democrats, what have you done?
http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/35697-democrats-march-toward-cliff
As Democratic-insider "super-delegates" give Hillary Clinton a seemingly insurmountable lead for the presidential nomination, the former Secretary of State's negative ratings continue to soar to stunning levels, hitting a net 24-point unfavorable in the new NBC-Wall Street Journal poll.
It is hard to imagine someone who is viewed unfavorably by a clear majority of voters (56 percent) and with a net-negative of 24 points winning the White House, except that most voters also don't like the top Republican choices either. Donald Trump sports a 41-point net-negative and Sen. Ted Cruz is at minus-23 points. (By contrast, of the two trailing candidates, Sen. Bernie Sanders gets a net-positive 9 points and Gov. John Kasich a net-positive 12 points.)
While Clinton's dismal approval ratings haven't seemed to have shaken the Democratic establishment, which continues to line up behind her long-anticipated coronation, some outside analysts see the party leaders blindly marching toward a cliff. But a major difference between Trump and Clinton in the latest poll is that Trump's numbers haven't moved much while Clinton's net-negative has almost doubled in the last month. In other words, the more Americans get to see of Clinton the more they don't want her.
Despite Sanders's string of victories, Clinton still leads him in elected delegates, but her daunting lead comes from her dominance of "super-delegates," party insiders who are not chosen by primaries or caucuses but still get to vote at the convention. According to The Associated Press tally, Clinton has 1,289 elected delegates to Sanders's 1,045, but she has the backing of 469 "super-delegates" to Sanders's 31. To win requires 2,383 delegates.
I checked the link; no, Old Drunk Bill didn't write this; some other guy did.
octoberlib (5,920 posts) Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:44 PM
1. If she's the nominee , we'll probably be looking at
President Trump.
nc4bo (16,671 posts) Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:45 PM
2. We get the government we deserve.
silvershadow (5,755 posts) Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:50 PM
5. Well sometimes we get the government the dumbasses that voted deserved. We just go along for
the ride (think of us as being held against our will, if you like)
jhart3333 (267 posts) Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:20 AM
9. We get the government that's been shoved down our throats.
Yeah.
Decent and civilized people have felt that way since 11:00 a.m. January 20, 2009.
Cassiopeia (2,233 posts) Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:50 PM
4. It's hard to speculate on the R side.
Trump must outright win the R nomination. I really see them going with anyone else, especially if Hillary takes it.
If the R's call in a pinch hitter against Clinton? I don;'t see any way Clinton wins. The R's will unite to end Hillary's career and I suspect Dem turnout will be low, especially if it's not Trump.
Fast Walker 52 (2,222 posts) Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:52 AM
11. I don't know -- I think he's unelectable. He's pissed off too many people.
I do know if the two major candidates are Trump and Hillary, I will be ****ing tuning out of that shitfest.
Good.
We don't need anybody with your sourass attitude voting anyway. For anyone.
<<<prefers that only positive people enthusiastic about things vote.
glinda (14,566 posts) Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:13 PM
6. If she is the nominee there will be
tremendous doubt behind her "victory" added to the already mistrust and dislike many have for her. I feel this election process is more than deeply flawed. Not only can she not be viewed as viable but lack of turnout for her will almost assure a Trump victory. This is sad for our Planet. Both are sad for our Planet.
I am a fighter by nature. I have been through more than many in my 62 years. I am not giving up. We must find a way to fix this disaster.
Duval (3,570 posts) Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:46 PM
7. Many of us, including me, will fight with you.
If she is the nominee, there will be many who will believe it was "fixed". I have doubts due to the NY fiasco and Arizona. She will not be viewed as winning fair and square unless these irregularities are investigated to the fullest extent.
Fast Walker 52 (2,222 posts) Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:50 AM
10. yeah... all I know is I feel the most disconnected from the Dem party in my 30+ years of voting
for them. I'm really not sure I can ever feel positive about Hillary. I really have no ****ing clue why others like her so much.
