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the cousin would like to have her say
« on: March 17, 2016, 11:56:51 AM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511515218

And by God, she's gonna have it, too.

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nadinbrzezinski (146,959 posts)    Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:41 PM

On calls for Bernie Supporters to give up
 
back in 2008 HRC staid until the bitter end. She could not get it either. Mathematically she was out actually earlier than Tuesday. As to the mathematically... it is nearly impossible right now for Sanders, but stranger things have happened in politics. So why would a politician do that? Well, if you know how politics is played you would understand it, and would prefer it, even if you support HRC at this point. The reasons go from the purely banal (not on the part of the campaign mind you), to the very political.

The banal, well I would like to have my say... and most states have yet to vote. I find the primary system to be a serious problem becuase the country is not center right, but reforms to this system will not come until we have a very serious crisis. So yes, I would like to have my vote. Who I vote for is my business. (and quite frankly the primary as usual is an after thought for me at this point)

But the political is what matters.

The larger the delegate count, the more yes demands in the actual party platform that Sanders can put in. He can also have a role in how the policies of the party are written. If he folds now, that power will be minimal. This is why Clinton staid to the bitter end in 2008.

So folding now means conceding any kind of role that he has earned. This is why he will stay until the convention or until money runs out.

This is how the game is played. Why many of the Hillary supporters want him to drop out. I would recommend you take a hint from her and just let the process play out. She said as much the other day.

As to attacks and smears. Pointing out that HRC voted to go to war is not a smear. Those have started for real, and if you believe those are smears... ohh boy. will be fun to watch. Becuase what is coming is epic.

Oh and one last thing... from talking to people (mostly online this week), the tone and vitriol on message boards will depresses the vote. It is just one more reason. I doubt it is the only reason for voters to stay home or vote third party, but you people will need these voters to replace the legion of conservadems that will cross for Trump. This is not idle speculation, This is history. This is the Reagan and Bush coalition all over again. So as much as some of you do despise the left, guess what skippy, you need them to win. All I am going to say is keep it up. I'm gong to enjoy the show. And god knows it is quite a show. What happened to that boring primary I was promised? One party going away, possibly one brokered convention, maybe two (Mathematically depending on the modeling you use, and I hate math) it is possible that neither Clinton or Sanders will reach the pledged delegates. It is unlikely but this one of those years. 

What is not to like, really 

For the record, this betrays the growing political instability in the United States. There I go again, doing actual analysis. When will I learn to just stick to puppies, entertainment and car chases? 

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SidDithers (39,336 posts)    Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:53 PM

3. Wut?...
apres moi, le deluge

Milo Yiannopoulos "It has been obvious since 2016 that Trump carries an anointing of some kind. My American friends, are you so blind to reason, and deaf to Heaven? Can he do all this, and cannot get a crown? This man is your King. Coronate him, and watch every devil shriek, and every demon howl."

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Re: the cousin would like to have her say
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2016, 12:19:39 PM »
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nadinbrzezinski (146,959 posts)    Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:41 PM

On calls for Bernie Supporters to give up ... blah blah. Blah blah blah..

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SidDithers (39,336 posts)    Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:53 PM

3. Wut?...

Gotta go with Sid. Very succint.

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Re: the cousin would like to have her say
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2016, 12:23:10 PM »
Gotta go with Sid. Very succint.

<<<wishes the cousin would stick with puppies, entertainment, and car chases.
apres moi, le deluge

Milo Yiannopoulos "It has been obvious since 2016 that Trump carries an anointing of some kind. My American friends, are you so blind to reason, and deaf to Heaven? Can he do all this, and cannot get a crown? This man is your King. Coronate him, and watch every devil shriek, and every demon howl."

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Re: the cousin would like to have her say
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2016, 12:25:05 PM »
<<<wishes the cousin would stick with puppies, entertainment, and car chases.

I thin s/h/it should get another bird to starve to death. Leave the puppies alone.

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Re: the cousin would like to have her say
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2016, 12:45:56 PM »
I thin s/h/it should get another bird to starve to death. Leave the puppies alone.
She already has puppies.

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Re: the cousin would like to have her say
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2016, 01:00:20 PM »
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39. I have read this three times and still can't make sense of it.

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34. "Staid"? What!?!?

The DUmmies are lucky that they have an influential member of the media willing to provide them with her expert analysis.

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Re: the cousin would like to have her say
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2016, 01:07:11 PM »
It's almost like gNads had a seizure while Talk-to-Text was turned on, and she hit 'send' at the end.
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Re: the cousin would like to have her say
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2016, 01:17:54 PM »
If you want to worship an orange pile of garbage with a reckless disregard for everything, get on down to Arbys & try our loaded curly fries.

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Re: the cousin would like to have her say
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2016, 02:12:34 PM »
As some DU-folk seem to be losing patience with TMN's hate-driven bigotry, some seem inpatient with nads' incomprehensibility and Malaprops. :rotf: :popcorn:
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Re: the cousin would like to have her say
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2016, 03:03:53 PM »
I love when liberals don't get their way there is always a call to "change the system."  They are fine with it until they lose.
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Re: the cousin would like to have her say
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2016, 03:43:18 PM »
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Trajan (18,453 posts)    Mar 17, 2016, 03:29 PM
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47. Well ... I have neither the time nor sentiment to listen to that crap
 
Your're a bigger person than I ...

Well, I do believe the cousin's bigger than even franksolich.
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Milo Yiannopoulos "It has been obvious since 2016 that Trump carries an anointing of some kind. My American friends, are you so blind to reason, and deaf to Heaven? Can he do all this, and cannot get a crown? This man is your King. Coronate him, and watch every devil shriek, and every demon howl."

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Re: the cousin would like to have her say
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2016, 03:47:46 PM »
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MohRokTah (12,808 posts)    Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:45 PM

30. I don;t want Sanders supporters giving up.
 
Watching delusional exercises is futility is quite entertaining.

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nadinbrzezinski (146,986 posts)    Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:50 PM

36. And watching these kinds of comments depress the vote
 
in November will be even more hysterical 

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MohRokTah (12,808 posts)    Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:52 PM

38. Anonymus posts on an internet forum depress the vote?
 
That's even more hilarious than the delusional exercise in futility of the continuing Sanders campaign! 
apres moi, le deluge

Milo Yiannopoulos "It has been obvious since 2016 that Trump carries an anointing of some kind. My American friends, are you so blind to reason, and deaf to Heaven? Can he do all this, and cannot get a crown? This man is your King. Coronate him, and watch every devil shriek, and every demon howl."

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Re: the cousin would like to have her say
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2016, 05:41:03 PM »
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3. Wut?...

Sid

Back in 2008 HRC staid until the bitter end--try to keep up, you dolt.
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Re: the cousin would like to have her say
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2016, 05:42:42 PM »
Back in 2008 HRC staid until the bitter end--try to keep up, you dolt.

But she has the super delicates and the lead is unsurmountable.
Liberals disgust me. (Now I don't have to remember to put it on each post).

Because only the left goes searching for that which is not there in a desperate attempt to be offended about something.

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Re: the cousin would like to have her say
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2016, 04:55:06 PM »
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Re: the cousin would like to have her say
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2016, 10:21:04 PM »
But she has the super delicates and the lead is unsurmountable.
That's "supper" delicates, PGR. :-)
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