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Offline dutch508

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Apple forced to do right thing in helping keep the USA safe.
« on: February 17, 2016, 07:26:20 AM »
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Little Tich (3,802 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141350870

Judge Forces Apple to Help Unlock San Bernardino Shooter iPhone

This is after the feds getting a warrant for Apple to do this. Apple refused to assist the govenment unlock the islamic terrorists' phone who killed 14 people in California.

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longship (30,547 posts)
1. If I were Apple, there would be no way to open an encrypted iPhone. That way I could say, "Sorry judge, we just do not have that capability. And knowing the algorithm does not help."

in other words give aid and support to those trying to kill us.

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Geronimoe (968 posts)
2. Hope they didn't wipe it with a dust cloth as Hillary mentioned. when discussing her emails.

in other words you hope the islamic terrorists successfully hide their information from us.

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Star Member Kelvin Mace (15,564 posts)
7. If you want to know who the shooters were talking to the phone company will give them to you the phone numbers without a warrant. They have been doing it for the NSA for years.

you are an idiot.

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NutmegYankee (11,102 posts)
11. Good for Apple. It's time for a public stand against the police state. nt

a 'police state' that is protecting you from violent islamic terrorists that want to kill you, ****-head!

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nsd (1,825 posts)
14. Good.

(I have mixed feelings about this order, but, for the purposes of this post, I'm going to play devil's advocate.)

Apple's argument is that the order not only requires them to create new technology, but that it represents a slippery slope. Today the government goes after the San Bernardino shooters, tomorrow who knows whom they go after?

Leaving the technology question aside, I'm not very sympathetic to the slippery slope argument. I want the FBI to investigate the San Bernardino shooters and their fellow travelers as thoroughly as possible. I want the FBI to investigate white supremacists and Islamist terror cells and all the other bad guys. I want them to dig those people out root and stem. Who is more likely to hurt me and the people I care about -- the FBI or racists & religious fanatics? Clearly, the answer is the latter.

Likewise, I am more worried about ISIS and Putin and North Korea than I am about the NSA. I think the folks at the NSA are basically on my side. Snowden is a clown -- a self-indulgent, self-important millennial libertarian nincompoop. Really -- being honest -- I'm fine with what the NSA does. As enjoyable as being all indignant and righteous about NSA excesses might feel, the truth is that I don't care about what the NSA has done.

Bottom line: maybe the FBI and NSA sometimes cross the line, but the real threat to ordinary people comes from the sources of violence (domestic and foreign) they investigate.

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Re: Apple forced to do right thing in helping keep the USA safe.
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2016, 11:33:42 AM »
More than likely they are not after phone numbers but the ability of the phone to keep track of where you have been and the times you were there.
 
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