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Offline dutch508

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If Bernie Sanders loses...
« on: February 07, 2016, 03:07:04 PM »
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If Bernie Sanders loses, his backers may not be there for Hillary Clinton in November


Gio Vanecchia is so enamored of Bernie Sanders that he made a five-hour drive with his wife and infant son from South Jersey on Saturday morning to catch a glimpse of the progressive firebrand. But what if Sanders loses the Democratic nomination? Asked whether he will be there to vote for the Democrat in November should Sanders falter, the 34-year-old union mechanic reacts as if the question is insane. There is not a chance, he insists, that he would ever support Hillary Clinton.

“She’s establishment,” Vanecchia said. “Most of the guys I work with think she’s a criminal.”

Usually, that sort of primary-season hostility means little when the general election rolls around. Even after bitter battles, voters generally coalesce around the goal of beating the opposing party.
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more: http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-clinton-sanders-20160206-story.html

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2. That article highlights a simple fact that many of the members of this site overlook when making blanket statements about "no true scotsman...". There is so much worry about if "your" candidate were to lose the primary, would you back "my" candidate while forgetting that a lot of the support Sanders is getting is from independents. They aren't beholden to some party line and they could care less about the purity tests.

If Clinton gets the nomination, she will only see a fraction of the Sander's supporters turn to support her because those independent voters have become democrats only for this voting cycle. I've read more than one comment online that basically says, "I'm a donkey this year but only because of Sanders."

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20. I think it goes the other way. Republicans HATE Hillary. They're *still* all pissed off they couldn't knock out Clinton when he was president, and they transferred it to her, on top of how much they already hated her. Nothing will energize Republicans and conservative independents as much as a chance of sticking it to Hillary. Sanders could walk out wrapped in a hammer and sickle flag yelling about how he's going to tax everyone at 90% and it still wouldn't come close. They hate Hillary WAY more than they ever did Obama, and you see how stupid they've been about him for the last 8 years. 

They'd turn out to vote in record numbers for Adolph Hitler if he was running against Hillary in the general. That's barely even a joke.

Sure... that's why we hate Hillary.

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27. I see no way the young vote turns out if Hillary wins the primary. Whether or not she can win the General without them I do not know but without the young vote down ballot will be a blood bath. We have a chance to take back the Senate but only if Bernie is the nominee.

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Re: If Bernie Sanders loses...
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2016, 03:11:08 PM »
What do you mean "If Bernie Sanders loses"? More like "When Bernie Sanders loses."

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Re: If Bernie Sanders loses...
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2016, 03:25:51 PM »
DUmmies discuss a parallel to "if the sun sets...".




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Re: If Bernie Sanders loses...
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2016, 03:32:53 PM »
I saw someone on Fox interviewing some students on a campus, none of them support Hillary. One young lady went so far as to say that just because she's a woman, Hillary shouldn't get women's votes. 

Men can equally support and push for women's rights. She added, that elections aren't just about one gender, but making things better for everyone.
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Re: If Bernie Sanders loses...
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2016, 03:40:25 PM »
Crazy bernie lose?

Say it ain`t so.
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Re: If Bernie Sanders loses...
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2016, 03:42:33 PM »
The meldown at DU WHEN Bernie is "Clintoned" will be epic. I. Can't. wait.
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Re: If Bernie Sanders loses...
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2016, 03:56:54 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on February 07, 2016, 03:32:53 PM
I saw someone on Fox interviewing some students on a campus, none of them support Hillary. One young lady went so far as to say that just because she's a woman, Hillary shouldn't get women's votes. 

Men can equally support and push for women's rights. She added, that elections aren't just about one gender, but making things better for everyone.

But you can sure bet that that young lady voted for Obumbles because of his skin color.
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Re: If Bernie Sanders loses...
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2016, 04:30:51 PM »
Quote from: Patriot Guard Rider on February 07, 2016, 03:42:33 PM
The meldown at DU WHEN Bernie is "Clintoned" will be epic. I. Can't. wait.

They'll call it a mass shooting, probably referring to it as sandy hook 2, and demand more gun control.

Many "inner childs" will be wounded and killed.

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Re: If Bernie Sanders loses...
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2016, 08:13:51 PM »
Quote from: CollectivismMustDie on February 07, 2016, 04:30:51 PM
They'll call it a mass shooting, probably referring to it as sandy hook 2, and demand more gun control.

Many "inner childs" will be wounded and killed.

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Re: If Bernie Sanders loses...
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2016, 08:42:11 PM »
I want bernie to be the dem candidate. I'll give the man credit... he says what he stands for  unlike all the other dems.  He is the Hugo Chavez of the US.    If he does get elected, then that will signal that the US is finished and we might as well go down the tubes now instead of dragging it out.  Something better will come of it once the libs all starve to death under bernie.  They want socialism, let them have it.  People like us will survive.
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Re: If Bernie Sanders loses...
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2016, 08:58:36 PM »
You know, I don't see how threats like this by the Bernie bullies is going to help them with those supporting the worthier candidate.

"If Methuselah's not the nominee, well, we aren't going to vote for yours--" as if they expect the other side to vote for theirs, if the old guy's the nominee.

But the Bernie bullies have weird ways of thinking, so.....
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Re: If Bernie Sanders loses...
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2016, 09:09:43 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on February 07, 2016, 08:58:36 PM
You know, I don't see how threats like this by the Bernie bullies is going to help them with those supporting the worthier candidate.

"If Methuselah's not the nominee, well, we aren't going to vote for yours--" as if they expect the other side to vote for theirs, if the old guy's the nominee.

But the Bernie bullies have weird ways of thinking, so.....

It's "fratricide," Frank.  It's all good.
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Re: If Bernie Sanders loses...
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2016, 11:11:47 AM »
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Asked whether he will be there to vote for the Democrat in November should Sanders falter, the 34-year-old union mechanic reacts as if the question is insane.
It is an insane question. Despite what he said to the reporter in November if his union told him to pull the lever for Hillary he will pull the lever for Hillary. Or whatever democrat candidate they put up.
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