I have a sinking feeling we just saw a preview of a Hillary Presidency

[Ptarmigan]

DUmmies can never be pleased.

I have a sinking feeling we just saw a preview of a Hillary Presidency
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KamaAina (67,322 posts)

I have a sinking feeling we just saw a preview of a Hillary Presidency. [View all]
 Unless we can take back Congress, next to impossible without Gerry Mander's vote  , they'll be sniping at her like that for four, if not eight, solid years.

merrily (29,262 posts)
14. .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251715777 (Bernie Sanders Is a Loud, Stubborn Socialist. Republicans Like Him Anyway.)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/128027637 (How Bernie fought for veterans, becoming a case study in successful negotiation.)

How Bernie fought for veterans, becoming a case study in successful negotiation. (Bernie Sanders’ record of pushing through major reforms will surprise you)

I am still not sure which legislation Hillary wrote (as opposed to co-sponsored) that became law that was not ceremonial (e.g., observing the anniversary of the Revolution, naming a federal building).

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12779409 (Daily Kos: Job titles do not necessarily equate to accomplishments.)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12779243

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12779238

flamingdem (30,875 posts)
4. That's why we have to unite. People have to GOTV

People have to vote. If the millenials and Bernsters refuse to vote all the downticket and then later midterms will screw us for 4-8 years.

Beyond that.. what can we do.

Than stay home on Election Day 2016.

Goblinmonger (19,395 posts)
8. I guess I'm a "Bernster" and if Hillary wins the nomination

I'll realize I'm voting for a centrist, but I'll vote for her because I'm not stupid.

And by all means, turn your back on the millenials instead of giving them a reason to vote. Sweet Jesus, I know you don't like Bernie, but did you not hear the truth that Dems win when more people get out to vote? How about you quit with the jabs at groups you are going to want to vote for you.

A BernieBot.

BlueCaliDem (9,589 posts)
30. They miscalculated and underestimated the vote of PoC. Minorities gave Pres.Obama his win and his

reelection when the White vote and the Millennial vote abandoned him in 2012.

Hillary Clinton had the Black and Hispanic vote solidly on her side back then, even as Senator Obama was in full running mode. He didn't have my vote, that's for sure.

But Blacks and Hispanics didn't trust him and didn't think he'd win until President Bill Clinton's "Jesse Jackson" gaffe. That pissed off a LOT of Black voters who then rushed to support Senator Obama.

To date, three months before the first presidential elections will be held in Iowa and New Hampshire, Senator Sanders has yet to get PoC - the most reliable Democratic voters - to warm up to him.

Don't me wrong...Senator Sanders has wonderful ideas and he's correct on the vast majority of issues that matter (except guns, immigration, Gitmo, calling for a primary challenger to President Obama in 2012), but he hasn't made any friends in Congress and, as you know, without the backing of Democrats in Congress, his agenda will never come to fruition. At least, not without a LOT of compromising, which would water down his proposals and defeat the purpose of his campaign.

SheilaT (19,420 posts)
78. Are you familiar with the term self-fulfilling prophecy?

Every time someone says Bernie can't win the General that's what they're buying into.

And do you really think he isn't willing to stand up to Republicans? Or that he hasn't done so already?

Hillary promises Republican Lite at best. No real support for defending and expanding Medicare, Social Security, the minimum wage, and all the other things that actually matter to most of the people in this country. Still defending her Iraq War vote. In bed with Wall Street, big Pharma, and so on.

I get seriously depressed when I think of a Clinton Presidency.

Another BernieBot. Hillary Clinton is Republican Lite??????????? 

Phlem (4,687 posts)
29. Could be but if Bernie wins

He will still not only have deal with Republicans but Corporate Democrats who like the status quo. Yeay Third Way!

librechik (26,893 posts)
74. Bernie and Hillary had nearly identical voting records when they served together

Hillary a little more liberal on certain issues and vice versa.

She identified herself as progressive during the debates. Given that politics is an ever-changing landscape, I am pleased as punch with Hillary instead of Jeb!

 She will need a vice president, and except for the fact we need them in the Senate, Bernie or Elizabeth would be great. If Bernie gets the nom,, I'd support him too.

I used to be a Hillary Hater. None of us can afford that luxury now. We need to pull together ASAP.

[Ken8521]

Goblinmonger (19,395 posts)
8. I guess I'm a "Bernster" and if Hillary wins the nomination

I'll realize I'm voting for a centrist, but I'll vote for her because I'm not stupid.

And by all means, turn your back on the millenials instead of giving them a reason to vote. Sweet Jesus, I know you don't like Bernie, but did you not hear the truth that Dems win when more people get out to vote? How about you quit with the jabs at groups you are going to want to vote for you.

I guess that is open to interpretation

[Chris_]

Lying, obfuscation, dishonesty, contempt, and spite for anyone not 100% on her side.

Yeah, that's a Clinton presidency in a nutshell.  Didn't you idiots pay attention last time she was in the White House?

[franksolich]

librechik (26,893 posts)     Sat Oct 24, 2015, 12:56 PM
   
74. Bernie and Hillary had nearly identical voting records when they served together.....

Uh huh.

This is what makes the Bernie bullies so pathetic; their preference for a candidate being based solely upon a prevaricating slogan.

It was the now-banned Skippy, the NYC_SKP primitive, who made up this Big Lie that Methuselah is "further left" than Messalina Agrippina, knowing fully well it would then make BS the primitives' favored candidate.

Even though there's not a dime's worth of difference between the two.

Messalina Agrippina is just as "left," if not more so, as BS Methuselah.

I can't figure out why the primitives supporting the worthier candidate for the Democrat nomination haven't pushed this--Hell, they haven't even ever mentioned it--fact.

But the primitives supporting the worthier candidate for the Democrat nomination have been weak, near spineless, in standing up for her anyway.

[USA4ME]

Goblinmonger

8. I guess I'm a "Bernster" and if Hillary wins the nomination

I'll realize I'm voting for a centrist, but I'll vote for her because I'm not stupid.

You're worse than stupid; you're spinless.

You tell everyone that Billary is a corporate whore who will cater to Wall Street and the 1%, and yet you'll vote for her anyway. You have no convictions that you aren't willing to toss on the dung heap, which means you're undependable, which mean the Dem party will use you for your vote and then toss you to the side, which means you'll let them just like you always have, which means you deserve it.

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[dutch508]

She identified herself as progressive during the debates.

Bruce Jenner 'identifies' himself as a woman.

hmmm...

[thundley4]

PoC - the most reliable Democratic voters

Dey luvs dem sum frey shiite.

[Boudicca]

Goblinmonger (19,395 posts)
8. I guess I'm a "Bernster" and if Hillary wins the nomination

I'll realize I'm voting for a centrist, but I'll vote for her because I'm not stupid.

And by all means, turn your back on the millenials instead of giving them a reason to vote. Sweet Jesus, I know you don't like Bernie, but did you not hear the truth that Dems win when more people get out to vote? How about you quit with the jabs at groups you are going to want to vote for you.

Fixed it for you, Gobsmacked


KamaAina (67,322 posts)

I have a sinking feeling we just saw a preview of a Hillary Presidency. [View all]
 Unless we can take back Congress, next to impossible without Gerry Mander's vote  , they'll be sniping at her like that for four, if not eight, solid years.

Wow, that Gerry must be almost as powerful as those ebil Koch brothers 

[Patriot Guard Rider]

Goblinmonger (19,395 posts)
8. I guess I'm a "Bernster" and if Hillary wins the nomination

I'll realize I'm voting for a centrist, but I'll vote for her because I'm not stupid.

And by all means, turn your back on the millenials instead of giving them a reason to vote. Sweet Jesus, I know you don't like Bernie, but did you not hear the truth that Dems win when more people get out to vote? How about you quit with the jabs at groups you are going to want to vote for you.

Fixed it for you, Gobsmacked


KamaAina (67,322 posts)

I have a sinking feeling we just saw a preview of a Hillary Presidency. [View all]
 Unless we can take back Congress, next to impossible without Gerry Mander's vote  , they'll be sniping at her like that for four, if not eight, solid years.

Wow, that Gerry must be almost as powerful as those ebil Koch brothers 

AS far as I remember, Gerry was born when DemocRATS demanded congressional districts be redrawn to get more minorities elected. Take a look at Cynthia McKinneys old district.

[thundley4]

AS far as I remember, Gerry was born when DemocRATS demanded congressional districts be redrawn to get more minorities elected. Take a look at Cynthia McKinneys old district.

Gerrymandering has been around the US almost as long as there has been elections.

[Boudicca]

Gerrymandering has been around the US almost as long as there has been elections.

True, but how long has that all powerful fella Gerry been meandering Mandering about?


The DUmmy can't spell.