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[Carl]

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Fri Sep 4, 2015, 08:38 PM

Star Member Liberal_in_LA (38,693 posts)

Oregonians putting 'No Californians' stickers on for sale signs




Oregonians are fed up with the rising home prices in Portland and seem to think Californians are to blame.

"No Californians" stickers are mysteriously popping up on for sale signs in front homes that are on the market.

The stickers resemble a no smoking sign with a silhouette of the Golden State slashed out in red.

Realtor Lori Fenwick told The Oregonian that she learned about the trend when one of her buyers sent her a photo of a sign with one of the stickers. When Fenwick posted image on Facebook. she immediately heard from colleagues who had spotted the same sticker on signs.

Gosh,I wonder why? 

Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Fri Sep 4, 2015, 09:00 PM

Star Member LuvNewcastle (8,177 posts)
1. I've heard that some people in Oregon and

Washington call Californians "Californicators." There's even a bit of friction between southern and northern Californians. I guess I can understand how Oregonians and others feel about the rise in prices. People who live in coastal CA will have to look for other places to live. It's too expensive and there's the water shortage. People in OR don't want California's problems. I hope the signs are meant in jest, however. The signs are probably illegal and definitely in bad taste.

Or outside of leftist cities,you mutts are as popular as hemorrhoids.

Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Fri Sep 4, 2015, 09:22 PM

Star Member dsc (42,995 posts)
5. the reason for the signs make no sense

Wouldn't sellers want prices driven up?

Response to dsc (Reply #5)

Fri Sep 4, 2015, 09:30 PM

1939 (560 posts)
9. Sellers aren't putting the stickers on

Folks that eventually want to be at lower prices are doing it.

And the reason for that is?

Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Fri Sep 4, 2015, 09:23 PM

kiva (3,769 posts)
6. 25+ years ago in western Colorado

this was exactly the sentiment. Americans have every right to move to another state and pay however much they choose for a house, but the influx did lead to rising housing costs but without a corresponding raise in wages...Californians were not popular in Grand Junction.

Just what leftists do after they make money and then foul their own nests,they move on and rinse,repeat.

One of the big three shows his racism.

Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Fri Sep 4, 2015, 10:34 PM

Star Member Elad (11,290 posts)
17. Housing is a huge issue in Portland right now.

When I moved here 10 years ago I got a 600 sq ft apartment in the heart of what is now a heavily gentrified popular part of town for $530. Similar aparments in this area are now about $1,200. My old ones were converted to condos.

Real estate prices have skyrocketed in all the desirable parts of town, pricing out the former apartment dwellers that can't afford their aparments anymore.

Like it or not tons of people are moving here and they're not all from California. Like me, a lot of them are from the Midwest. But the perception, fair or not, is that the culture the Californians bring with them is having a negative effect on neighborhoods.

Favorite dive bars are being replaced with fancy wine bars, cheap cafes with $15/plate restaurants, and old houses are being torn down to build more condos/giant luxury homes that don't fit into the neighborhood.

All that is happening, but personally I don't think the growth is a bad thing. I might be biased because I do own a home in one of those desirable neighborhoods that I managed to get in on right before the market got really insane, but who knows. I do, however, think there is a difference between young migrants coming to a place they were looking to find other out-of-the-box thinkers (much like me ten years ago) vs. wealthy migrants coming in and trying to turn neighborhoods into cheaper versions of wherever they came from because the money they made selling their houses in more expensive areas allows them to live like kings here. No matter where those people are coming from.

But bottom line is it is happening so, well, get used to it or find somewhere else to live.

This cartoon was going around Facebook recently and sums it up nicely.

You mean lily white don`t you Elad.

Demented old Judy weighs in from the adult day care center.

Response to Elad (Reply #17)

Fri Sep 4, 2015, 10:45 PM

grasswire (43,525 posts)
18. growth is not inevitable...

...and the destruction of beautiful established neighborhoods is strongly resented. All for the buck in the developer's pocket (and maybe one in the pocket of the city council, too).

Look to the example of Petaluma California as a model for restricting growth. In the 1970s, Petaluma took steps to limit permits for new housing drastically. The city's right to do this was upheld in court all the way to the Supreme Court, which refused to hear the action against Petaluma.

Growth is not inevitable. Not everyone who wants to move to a particular city has any right to do so if there is no room for growth or desire of the populace for it (as expressed through elected city council members).

Response to grasswire (Reply #18)

Fri Sep 4, 2015, 10:51 PM

taught_me_patience (4,652 posts)
20. It's the anti-growth nimbys that's causing rents to skyrocket

It's really a pathetic "I got mine **** you all" mentality.

Response to taught_me_patience (Reply #20)

Sat Sep 5, 2015, 02:31 AM

grasswire (43,525 posts)
23. no, it's not

It's the unregulated influx of people and the willingness to destroy neighborhoods AND affordable housing in order to accommodate people who have sold their homes for profit elsewhere. Where do you think the 400,000 people expected to migrate here in the near future are going to live???

We need to STOP thinking we must assimiilate all those people. It just can't be done without destroying the city as far as liveability is concerned.

Donald Trump just chuckled.

Response to Elad (Reply #17)

Sat Sep 5, 2015, 11:57 AM

teach me everything (91 posts)
31. Here in my state

we are already house hunting, and many of them are priced out of our range. I'm hoping we'll get some help - we have spotted a nice little house not too far from where we live (about a half a mile away) that is 3br 3ba, beautiful kitchen, for about $369k. Most houses nearby are already at high 600k to 2 million for houses in a nicer neighborhood.

People are moving in because we have one of the top 10 best cities to live and work for. Condos, apartments and houses are being built EVERYWHERE. You can't even step outside of anywhere without seeing something being built - that's the truth. And because of that, the costs of house/condo ownership or apartment rentals has gone up. It's surreal.

But it is all the GOPs fault right?

Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Fri Sep 4, 2015, 10:49 PM

taught_me_patience (4,652 posts)
19. Portland is where the loser rejects from LA move to

Guys (mostly wannabe hipster toolbags) who cannot hack it in Los Angeles move there. Portland, as a city, is inferior to Los Angeles in every way. No wonder they don't want our rejects moving in.

Racist.

[docstew]

I seriously doubt that a city (Portland) that placed a limit on how much it could grow and spent billions revamping its public infrastructure to emphasize public transport doesn't want liberals from CA for political reasons. I'd bet it has more to do with maintaining their "weird" vibe.

[thundley4]

I seriously doubt that a city (Portland) that placed a limit on how much it could grow and spent billions revamping its public infrastructure to emphasize public transport doesn't want liberals from CA for political reasons. I'd bet it has more to do with maintaining their "weird" vibe.

Those signs should be mandatory in Texas and several other western states.

[Skul]

A couple decades ago, there was a flood of Californicators move to the foothills of  Colorado.
They brought their ways with them. Colorado cities pretty much went to hell.

[thundley4]

A couple decades ago, there was a flood of Californicators move to the foothills of  Colorado.
They brought their ways with them. Colorado cities pretty much went to hell.

Liberals shit where they live.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Liberals shit where they live.

If they confined their shitting exclusively to where they live that would be one thing but they insist on shitting where everybody else lives as well.

[Patriot Guard Rider]

A couple decades ago, there was a flood of Californicators move to the foothills of  Colorado.
They brought their ways with them. Colorado cities pretty much went to hell.

Liberals piss me off. They move out of their high tax, highly regulated areas (california, anyone?) (because they voted for the people that would raise taxes and regulate business and residences out the wazoo), and move to "rural" areas to get away from that sh*t. The first thing they do is vote for the type of people that will highly tax and regulate, then they bitch about high taxes and regulations and move again. (leaving behind the people that wanted nothing to do with what they voted for).

LIberalism is a mental disease.

[Skul]

If they confined their shitting exclusively to where they live that would be one thing but they insist on shitting where everybody else lives as well.

In other words, they're cats.

<<<<<<<<< Not that kind.

[thundley4]

If they confined their shitting exclusively to where they live that would be one thing but they insist on shitting where everybody else lives as well.

That's what I mean. They turn their own home places to shit, and then move where decent and civilized people live and repeat the process.

[98ZJUSMC]

It's the unregulated influx of people Whaaaaaaaa? and the willingness to destroy neighborhoods AND affordable housing in order to accommodate people who have sold their homes for profit elsewhere. Where do you think the 400,000 people expected to migrate here in the near future are going to live???

We need to STOP thinking we must assimiilate all those people. Whaaaaaaaa? It just can't be done without destroying the city as far as liveability is concerned.

Donald Trump just chuckled.
 

[delilahmused]

I seriously doubt that a city (Portland) that placed a limit on how much it could grow and spent billions revamping its public infrastructure to emphasize public transport doesn't want liberals from CA for political reasons. I'd bet it has more to do with maintaining their "weird" vibe.

From the time I was a kid I can remember signs that said "Welcome to Oregon, now go home!", directed at California. A lot of it is economic, though. Housing prices are so inflated in CA, the tiniest hovel brings in enough money to afford a home in an exclusive area here. And they bring with them the attitude & political values that made CA a cesspool. Doesn't do any good to move somewhere to excape something if you're just going to recreate it in someone else's backyard. If I wanted to live like a Californian, I'd move there. I went to college there and met my husband there. We lived in Petaluma. Restricting growth meant cramped apartments everywhere.

Cindie

[jtyangel]

Funny how many use the same logic that's applicable to massive amounts of illegals coming in without even having the good sense to apply that logic to a more relevant and pressing situation. Most of the cries point out that unfettered growth and migration without assimilation is bad...um squirrel...nut. what a bunch of feeble minded idiots.

[franksolich]

Primitives can be so contradictory.

grasswire (43,525 posts)   Sat Sep 5, 2015, 02:31 AM

23. no, it's not

It's the unregulated influx of people and the willingness to destroy neighborhoods AND affordable housing in order to accommodate people who have sold their homes for profit elsewhere. Where do you think the 400,000 people expected to migrate here in the near future are going to live???

We need to STOP thinking we must assimiilate all those people. It just can't be done without destroying the city as far as liveability is concerned.

I take it this means Judy grasswire's now anti-illegal aliens?

This reminds me of some months ago, when Skippy reminded the big guy in Bellevue that de-salting facilities for making drinking water in California wasn't a good idea, because if fresh water were available, more and more people would move to California, and California's already overcrowded.

I took that to mean that Skippy was anti-illegal aliens too.

So.....exactly how are we supposed to accommodate all the illegal aliens the primitives want here?

[GOBUCKS]

the willingness to destroy neighborhoods AND affordable housing in order to accommodate people who have sold their homes for profit elsewhere.

Poor addled grasswipe Judy is clearly anti-American. She only wants to restrict the movement of American citizens who might raise the standards in her blue hellhole.

However, to maintain her DUmp cred, she must favor the unrestricted free movement of illegal aliens, especially when they swarm into heretofore red states.