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Offline dutch508

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That well regulated militia.
« on: August 27, 2015, 06:59:17 AM »
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A well regulated militia. A WELL REGULATED militia. Well regulated. WELL REGULATED


Even the very thing that is THE obstacle to ending gun violence in America has the words "well regulated" written right there in it, in black and ****ing white. And yet still, Americans don't give a shit. Other countries don't have it in their constitutions, and lo and behold, they have no gun violence. Not at these dystopian levels. Chicago: 250+ gun murders so far. Toronto: 17.

But we'll still have the same old bullshit about mental health, about poverty or race, about media, about video games and movies, same old shit being said about how it's anything other than the gun laws. It will be posted right here, and people will agree with it, and a few will be trolls, but many will NOT be. Many will still actually BELEIVE what they're saying, despite all the evidence against them.

And when you point out to these people that EVEN THE SECOND AMMENDMENT HAS THE WORDS WELL REGULATED in there, they will show how illiterate they are by not understanding the meaning of those words. They will.cling, yes CLING, to their guns. Obama was right when he said that, but people don't like to hear the truth about their vices and fetishes.

And legally, because there's that stupid notion of gun ownership being some kind of human "right" (Hint, it's not), nothing can ever get done without a complete and total repeal of those dated words. And go ahead and try to convince Americans to do THAT. I know I'm a pessimist on this one, I really know. But Sandy Hook was a turning point for me. If Americans don't give a shit about 20 little kids being gunned down, I don't see how a TV crew on a live broadcast will make a dent.

It's hopeless and it's sad and it makes me sick.

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

They always **** this up.

On May 8, 1792, Congress passed "[a]n act more effectually to provide for the National Defence, by establishing an Uniform Militia throughout the United States" requiring:

[E]ach and every free able-bodied white male citizen of the respective States, resident therein, who is or shall be of age of eighteen years, and under the age of forty-five years (except as is herein after excepted) shall severally and respectively be enrolled in the militia...[and] every citizen so enrolled and notified, shall, within six months thereafter, provide himself with a good musket or firelock, a sufficient bayonet and belt, two spare flints, and a knapsack, a pouch with a box therein to contain not less than twenty-four cartridges, suited to the bore of his musket or firelock, each cartridge to contain a proper quantity of powder and ball: or with a good rifle, knapsack, shot-pouch and powder-horn, twenty balls suited to the bore of his rifle, and a quarter of a pound of powder; and shall appear, so armed, accoutred and provided, when called out to exercise, or into service, except, that when called out on company days to exercise only, he may appear without a knapsack

No, due to changes in the country in reference to race and gender it should be EVERY CITIZEN OF THE NATION, AGE 18 TO 45 SHALL BE ENROLLED IN THE MILITIA.
Each shall have in their possession:
1 AR-15 with seven 30 round magazines
1 Bayonet and webbing gear
1 3 day Assault Pack with necessary items to sustain them for combat
240 rouns 5.56mm ball ammunition.

wouldn't that make the leftists shit themselves.

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TreasonousBastard (25,977 posts)
1. The Supremes seem to have made that part of it irrelevant...so we're stuck with guns as the ultimate aphrodisiac.

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2. Regulated is not the same as restricted -- which is all this is really about.

Because the words, "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" is also in black and white yet remains ignored.


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Not at these dystopian levels. Chicago: 250+ gun murders so far. Toronto: 17.

Yet, Chicago is the gun controllers Utopia for laws and regulations that harass law-abiding gun owners. Remember, it was Chicago that was going to send Otis McDonald to jail for owning a gun that gave us Chicago v McDonald.

They are so predictable.
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Re: That well regulated militia.
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2015, 07:39:06 AM »
The writers of the Bill of Rights understood what DU-folk (and other Libs/Progs) can't/won't. Familiarity and skill with fire arms is a critical skill for a "militia". By guaranteeing the right to "keep and bear arms" the 2nd Amendment guaranteed that militia members came to muster or war already having that critical skill.

That is the reason keeping and bearing arms is a "right of the people" not a right of the militia or a right of state governments.

"There is none so blind as he who will not see."
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Re: That well regulated militia.
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2015, 07:49:00 AM »
Chicago: 250+ gun murders so far. Toronto: 17.

Toronto has more community organizers?

Toronto has fewer hood rats?

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Re: That well regulated militia.
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2015, 08:05:39 AM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on August 27, 2015, 07:49:00 AM
Chicago: 250+ gun murders so far. Toronto: 17.

Toronto has more community organizers?

Toronto has fewer hood rats?

When liberals point to other countries with lower crime rates and gun deaths, they like to credit the lack of guns in those countries. They avoid mentioning the lack of minorities in those countries.
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Re: That well regulated militia.
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2015, 08:11:46 AM »
Quote from: thundley4 on August 27, 2015, 08:05:39 AM
When liberals point to other countries with lower crime rates and gun deaths, they like to credit the lack of guns in those countries. They avoid mentioning the lack of minorities in those countries.

Plus the 50 years of freebies with absolutely no requirements attached.
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Re: That well regulated militia.
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2015, 08:39:15 AM »
primitives, the answer is NO!!

The right to keep and bear arms is one of the main things keeping you libs from wanting to establish the left-wing totalitarian dictatorship you keep yearning for, evidenced by the posts you make on Skin's island, koskiddieland, and elsewhere. Most of you might not use those exact words (left-wing totalitarian dictatorship), but the message you're conveying by use of other phrases and expressed desires comes shining through.

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Re: That well regulated militia.
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2015, 08:45:12 AM »
Read this f'n moron:

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34. I need mustard gas

for self defense. Single action long guns will work until I can get the gas.

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40. The 2A does not cover chemical weapons.

but you knew that.

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safeinOhio (9,294 posts)
46. Nor auto loading or cartridge weapons.

But you knew that too.

Read again, DUmbass:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

You see anything in there delineating between flintlocks and semi-automatic weapons, dipshit? Any other type of weapon? No? Then STFU.
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Re: That well regulated militia.
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2015, 09:00:33 AM »
Which is the preferred delivery system for land mines....UPS or FED-X? The entitl.....uh....deer are shoplifting my garden.
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Re: That well regulated militia.
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2015, 10:28:24 AM »
Quote from: SVPete on August 27, 2015, 07:39:06 AM
The writers of the Bill of Rights understood what DU-folk (and other Libs/Progs) can't/won't. Familiarity and skill with fire arms is a critical skill for a "militia". By guaranteeing the right to "keep and bear arms" the 2nd Amendment guaranteed that militia members came to muster or war already having that critical skill.

That is the reason keeping and bearing arms is a "right of the people" not a right of the militia or a right of state governments.

"There is none so blind as he who will not see."

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Re: That well regulated militia.
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2015, 10:51:29 AM »
Many moons ago, the guns on fighter aircraft, we're xxxxxxxxx, to impact to a point down range.
Free cookie to the DUmmie that gets it.
There was another term, however, we'll leave it out.
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Re: That well regulated militia.
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2015, 11:09:02 AM »
I have a feeling that the OP is the latest sock puppet of not gay,not black Rolex Randy Smith.

From another thread.

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #16)

Thu Aug 27, 2015, 11:38 AM

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18. His about **** YOUR STUPID ****ING GUNS

How about that? I wonder what kind of person cares more about their guns than the constant daily death on the massive scale that is happening right now. You're aware of the fact that your ****ing fetish is contributing to people dying RIGHT NOW, right? Do you care? At all?


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Thu Aug 27, 2015, 11:46 AM

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26. The only fantasy is yours

The FACT is that gun laws HAVE worked in countries that got real about this issue. But I get it. Facts are hard for you. You'd rather live in your delusion.


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Thu Aug 27, 2015, 11:52 AM

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31. You're lying your ass off right now, and everybody knows it

You'd don't give a **** about logistics, nor do you care about this issue other than to do whatever you can to make sure that your precious ****ing guns are as easy to get as ever. Australia did it, the UK did it, all these other places on Earth did it and you're talking like "oh no its so hard can't be done". We all know where you stand here so just stop it.

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Thu Aug 27, 2015, 11:39 AM

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20. Yes, yes, its IMPOSSIBLE!!! No one else has ever done it before!

Can't be solved! Throw up your hands! Other countries tried and failed!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027115121


Same hysterical screeching as the pink panties bunch up.
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Re: That well regulated militia.
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2015, 11:27:55 AM »
It's possible in the DUmmie mind to take away a couple hundred million guns but impossible to deport 11 million illegal aliens.
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Re: That well regulated militia.
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2015, 11:33:45 AM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on August 27, 2015, 11:27:55 AM
It's possible in the DUmmie mind to take away a couple hundred million guns but impossible to deport 11 million illegal aliens.

While the war on Drugs is a pointless waste but banning and confiscating everyones guns is guaranteed to work.
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Re: That well regulated militia.
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2015, 02:07:57 PM »
Quote from: Skul on August 27, 2015, 10:51:29 AM
Many moons ago, the guns on fighter aircraft, we're xxxxxxxxx, to impact to a point down range.
Free cookie to the DUmmie that gets it.
There was another term, however, we'll leave it out.

Following your lead, sort of ...

It was Alvin York's expertise with guns as a civilian that enabled him as a soldier in WW1 to pick off a bunch of Germans and intimidate the rest in a whole unit to surrender.

One of the things that helped US WW2 fighter pilots was their familiarity with using guns - "leading" moving targets, trajectory.

But like I said, Libs and Progs keep their minds from "going there".
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Re: That well regulated militia.
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2015, 02:28:20 PM »
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46. Nor auto loading or cartridge weapons.

But you knew that too.

According to your logic, DUmbass, the computer you're using isn't covered by the 1st Amendment.  Maybe you should think before you post...   :whatever:
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Re: That well regulated militia.
« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2015, 02:39:22 PM »
Don Lemon got TS'd. Now they need to link that to RandyS who is creating socks.

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Re: That well regulated militia.
« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2015, 02:54:57 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on August 27, 2015, 08:05:39 AM
When liberals point to other countries with lower crime rates and gun deaths, they like to credit the lack of guns in those countries. They avoid mentioning the lack of minorities in those countries.

The solution is obvious, make it illegal for Blacks and Hispanics to own guns, with immediate non-bailable imprisonment and stiff sentences.

 :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: (In case anyone was wondering).
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Re: That well regulated militia.
« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2015, 04:05:47 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on August 27, 2015, 02:54:57 PM
The solution is obvious, make it illegal for Blacks and Hispanics to own guns, with immediate non-bailable imprisonment and stiff sentences.

 :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: (In case anyone was wondering).
One of the best sarcastic gun control ideas I've heard in a long time....and one that could do wonders if enforced.
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Re: That well regulated militia.
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2015, 04:32:51 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on August 27, 2015, 08:05:39 AM
When liberals point to other countries with lower crime rates and gun deaths, they like to credit the lack of guns in those countries. They avoid mentioning the lack of minorities in those countries.

Black population of Toronto makes up 8% of the total.

Black population in Chicago makes up 32% of the total.

Just a MINOR detail.
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Re: That well regulated militia.
« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2015, 06:07:48 PM »
"Other countries don't have it in their constitutions, and lo and behold, they have no gun violence. Not at these dystopian levels. Chicago: 250+ gun murders so far. Toronto: 17."
Switzerland has one of the highest gun- ownership rates on the planet, and it has no real gun- violence problem.
Chicago, in contrast, has horrifically oppressive gun laws, and yet its gun murder rate is so high.
Why, you'd almost think that criminals don't care about following strict gun laws!

"But Sandy Hook was a turning point for me. If Americans don't give a shit about 20 little kids being gunned down, I don't see how a TV crew on a live broadcast will make a dent."
Sandy Hook was committed using a gun the shooter stole from his mother. In other words, a gun he illegally owned.
btw, Sandy Hook was a "Gun- free zone." According to liberal "logic," that fact should have stopped Adam Lanza in his tracks and prevented the shooting.
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Re: That well regulated militia.
« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2015, 06:09:15 PM »
≠Black≠Gay Randy will change his tune once somebody robs him of a watch or two at gunpoint. Maybe the 7K one he bought to commemorate the life of Robin Williams.
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