F4lconF16 is the Mike Trout of bouncies

[BannedFromDU]

F4lconF16 (3,213 posts)

Homelessness isn't just physical.

There's a great thread by Hunter up right now talking about shoplifting. In the comments, a few wonderful people told about their experiences with poverty, and how they have helped others. And it made me think. About how your employer with the $12 beets doesn't have a shoplifting problem because you honkies are all loaded?

This morning I was on my way to work (recall that this DUmmy claims to work at Whole Foods)when I stopped to get a cup of coffee (doing 2 eight hour shifts after 4 and a half hours of sleep, two days in a row, reallyyyyy makes you need some). As I turned my bike around, a homeless guy came up and asked if I could get him some food.(Straight out of the bushes, I vouchsafe)

Well, I didn't have a lot of time. So I told him to come over to the shop.(The "shop?" You mean the Whole Foods?) He picked out something, and I told him to grab another. He asked for a cup of coffee, and he got one. And he was appreciative, and I'm glad I did it.(Sounds like you stole from Whole Foods?)

But that's not the point of this. (Yes it is.) While we were waiting(waiting for what?), we chatted a bit about ISIS,(a homeless person has an opinion about ISIS? YOU have one?) the weather, and a couple other things. After we got the coffee, I walked a little ways, and we talked for a few more minutes before I had to leave.(I thought you were on your bike, liar) He said thanks for the food, but even more, thanks for the conversation.(Was he as pompous as your "father?") It'd been weeks since someone did more than just buy him food.

Homelessness is so, so much more than just beng without a home and living in poverty. Too often, it is a loss of both self-respect and being respected. When you're treated like nothing, you become nothing.(And some people, like yourself, are nothing no matter what)

When we donate to food pantries, we have to remember why and who we're doing it for. When we give someone money, we should take the time to talk a little with the person on the side of the street. Recognize their humanity. Because money helps, but it doesn't touch the worst parts.(I've given more to charity this year than you've earned in your life, Sport.)

On of the most rewarding things I do is wandering around at night.(I'm sure that pays better than Whole Foods, anyway.) People are willing to open up.(...their trousers so you can suck the chrome off their trailer hitch) I've learned more sharing a bit of water, cheese, and crackers than I have after $40+ grand in tuition payments. You will never regret taking the time to show a little love for someone.(And sometimes they give you a tip.)

Thanks to all of you who do.

So young, so productive, so much promise to entertain us for years to come. Five-tool DUmmies don't come but a few each generation, folks.

What a pompous dick.

[98ZJUSMC]

[Carl]

20 year old kid wanders the mean streets at night.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

20 year old kid wanders the mean streets at night.

I normally roll my eyes at the whole "mansplaining" trope but check out this exchange FukkinF16yearold had a few months back:

Nuclear Unicorn (16,779 posts)

41. Less than 10% of rapes involve an armed attacker. Of those armed attackers less than half

i.e. less than 5% overall, have a gun. A woman with a gun has a less than 5% chance in being equally armed as an attacker and a better than 95% chance of holding the tactical superiority.

Why disarm over the fantasy that rapists can ninja-away her protection?

F4lconF16 (3,213 posts)

50. Your arrogance is incredible.

You pretend you know rape, that you understand rape. You use some statistics to show us fools why we're so stupid to be opposed to carrying a gun to protect yourself from assault, and you think you've made some kind of strong statement explaining that.

Let me be the first to tell you:

YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND A DAMN THING ABOUT RAPE.

You clearly like statistics, so let's use some:

82% of sexual assaults were perpetrated by a non-stranger.
47% of rapists are a friend or acquaintance.
25% are an intimate.
5% are a relative.

Yet you advocate carrying a gun. Do you have any idea how stupid that is? Do you really think people are going to just shoot someone they know? Do you have any idea what kind of damage killing someone--especially someone you know--does to your psyche?

The fact that you don't think that's a problem says a lot about you. Your disrespect for the sanctity of life is sickening, and sadly typical of people who think guns will solve a systemic problem entrenched in our society, our culture, our politics, and our economics.

Rape is not black and white. It's not always a big stranger who preys on you in the darkness. It's your best friend. It's your boyfriend. It's your spouse. It's your uncle. It's the man you met at the bar and decided to go home with because you were drunk and not thinking clearly. It's being roofied at a frat party. It's the guy you thought would never do that type of thing.

And your suggestion is to point a ****ing gun at them?

You don't know a damn thing.

And let me tell you: I hope that the people I know that were beaten and abused for years NEVER happen to have a gun in an assault situation. Because of two reasons: first, it would destroy them to kill. It would **** them up bad. And you want to know why I really hope they never have one around?

Because I'd bet almost anything they'd be more likely to use it on themselves than on anyone attacking them.

And that's something I don't expect you to ever understand.

Get off your ****ing high horse. You don't know shit.

Nuclear Unicorn (16,779 posts)

63. I do not subscribe to the, "be a good girl and take one for the team" philosophy.

Nothing you wrote abrogates a woman's right to self defense. If she is entitled to self defense then she is entitled to the most effective means of self defense. You can call that "arrogant" and "disrespect for the sanctity of life" but the "life" you're favoring is the life of a rapist over the victim.

How telling.

friendly_iconoclast (11,902 posts)
69. It's not a touch on *your* arrogance and mansplaining, dude:

Nuclear Unicorn is a woman- You are not. Furthermore, you have the luxury of
choosing single combat.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6668520

...Then, since I am a tall man who is quite physically fit, I have the luxury of using my own body as defense against someone. I have the reach and the speed to avoid most people's blows and remove myself from the situation.

Who are you to tell people how to defend themselves? And all that bloviating about
the "sanctity of life"? You advocate the use of pepper spray, which is not always effective
and can be lethal, despite your claims that it isn't-

Pepper spray is the best option at any point in this situation. I can use it up close or from a distance. It will stop a full-grown adult in his or her tracks. It is non-lethal

see references in:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6672065

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22pepper+spray%22+ineffective&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

I'll just use your own words here:

Get off your ****ing high horse. You don't know shit.

F4lconF16 (3,213 posts)

74. Point taken.

My assumptions, and arrogance, if you want to call it that, got the better of me. My irritation stems from seeing that bs statistic used again and again to promote a more havily armed society without any grounding in reality. I admit the hostility could have and should have been dialed back. I tend to ignore my inhibitions as far as saying what I'm thinking while online, and I need to work on it.

I stand by what I said, though, because despite my unnecessary tone, I think I am correct.

I can kill someone with a fist to the face, but punching is generally non-lethal. Same with pepper spray, though I realize it has it's problems. Your links are good, and there is a definite risk in using it. Two things, though: first, almost all the issues with pepper spray stem from police abuse and not quick uses in self-defense, and second, that in no way means a gun is a better option. Pepper spray is the most effective tool for the least lethality that I know of.

I advocate for the use of relatively non-lethal defense over just about any other lethal option. The number of times a gun will be a useful tool is vastly outweighed by the risks inherent in owning, carrying, and using a weapon--even with training and responsibility. That's an entire other argument, though, and not one I wish to get into.

You have the right to defend yourself however you choose to do so. I also have the right to advocate a certain method of doing it. Yes, I am a privileged male, but for the most part I am only echoing the concerns of women and the abused that I know.

friendly_iconoclast (11,902 posts)
79. Your screenname refers to a widely used fighter-bomber...

...that is seeing combat use even as we speak.

https://www.google.com/search?q=saudi+f16&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=saudi+f16&tbm=nws

http://www.janes.com/article/51439/update-moroccan-f-16-lost-over-yemen

The Royal Moroccan Air force (FARM) F-16C Block 52 multirole fighter that crashed in northern Yemen on 10 May was not hit by ground fire, according to Saudi military spokesman Brigadier General Ahmed Asiri.

"We are definitely sure it wasn't shot down," he told AFP on 12 May, adding that other aircraft flying in the same formation "did not notice any firing from the ground".

It has been reported that Morocco has contributed six jet fighters to the Saudi-led coalition that has been bombing the Yemeni group Ansar Allah and allied military units since 25 March. Two FARM F-16s have been seen at the Saudi air base at Taif along with F-16s from other coalition members.

A lot of people have been (and will be) killed with them in the Middle East.
Forgive me if I'm skeptical about your commitment to "the sanctity of life"...

F4lconF16 (3,213 posts)

84. My screenname is from years ago.

I gave up my dream of becoming an aerodynamicist in that industry precisely because I believe I could help my community better in other ways. I realized that I would not be able to participate in that industry and environment. I gave up one of the things I am most passionate about so I didn't support what it so often is used for.

My username has nothing to do with who I am.

"What a douche."

[Carl]

Now wait a minute.

F4lconF16 (3,213 posts)

84. My screenname is from years ago.

I gave up my dream of becoming an aerodynamicist in that industry precisely because I believe I could help my community better in other ways. I realized that I would not be able to participate in that industry and environment. I gave up one of the things I am most passionate about so I didn't support what it so often is used for.

My username has nothing to do with who I am.

Yet this from just a week ago.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027085853
 Mon Aug 17, 2015, 03:49 PM

Star Member F4lconF16 (3,200 posts)

To the older folks at DU from a 20-year-old, about protests, confusion, and love for one another
My generation is fighting a whole new fight. I'm scared to death, excited, hopeless, and hopeful. In the last few months, I've been in marches, protests, and "riots" for the first time in my life. I've changed minds, and had mine changed.

We're seeing a future slip away that may never have existed in the first place, and we're desperate to hold on to it and create a new one at the same time. We live in a world of distractions, of ignorance and incredible knowledge. We're a confused generation, one that really doesn't know what it wants yet, or how to get it, but one that knows that something, SOMETHING has to change.

For now, not all of us know what we're doing. We're learning. We may not protest in a way that people like, we may not protest in "the right way" for you, but we're learning to influence thoughts and opinions as we go.

Help us, but don't block our way. Give us advice, but make sure you're listening, too. We have a new perspective, one that's just as valid and important as yours--if not much, much more so.

Give us your love, and we will return it. Stand up for us, and we will stand up for you. This fight is all of ours, and we're well aware of that.

There will be times, as recently, when our relationship will be tested. Stand strong for us now, when we really need you. We will make ourselves heard either way, but it will be a whole lot easier with you than without.

There will be a time when our fight is succeeded by our progeny, but for now...it is ours, and we will fight, however we have to, however we can. And we are just beginning.

As Frank said truly years ago..."DUmmies lie,all the time they lie."

[JohnnyReb]

I gave up my dream of becoming an aerodynamicist in that industry....because it be hard and all.

[67 Rover]

Pepper spray is the most effective tool for the least lethality that I know of.

What about vomiting or wetting yourself as the demoRats have suggested is the proper response to a rape rape?  I would also argue that it is even less lethal to do that to "defend" yourself. Fagot. 

Edited to fix spelling errors

[BannedFromDU]

I gave up my dream of becoming an aerodynamicist in that industry....because it be hard and all.

     Why be an "aerodynamicist" at the age of 20 when you can shuck overpriced groceries by day and roam the streets as a male prostitute at night?

[Big Dog]

     Why be an "aerodynamicist" at the age of 20 when you can shuck overpriced groceries by day and roam the streets as a male prostitute at night?

The DUmmy's dream evolved. He really has his heart set on stuffing sacks and sucking dicks.

[98ZJUSMC]

F4lconF16 (3,213 posts)

74. Point taken.

My assumptions, and arrogance, if you want to call it that, got the better of me.

Going out of your way to bouncy yourself as "tall and very physically fit"    yet seemingly an expert at pepper spray.   

Star Member F4lconF16 (3,200 posts)

We're a confused generation

Not quite the word I would choose.

[Chris_]

F4lconF16 (3,200 posts)

We're a confused generation

It is entirely self-inflicted.

[BlueStateSaint]

It is entirely self-inflicted.

Especially with all of the pharmaceuticals they consume.

[BannedFromDU]

Star Member F4lconF16 (3,200 posts)

We're a confused generation

I'd say you are, F4. You're a butt pirate, for openers.

You're a sanctimonius little entitled prick about your college choice.

You take your folks' money for college while they're hurting for work.

You got dumped by an epileptic victim of abuse...God knows what you did to her.

But you still plan to have kids.

And you really don't want anyone knowing about your use of hard drugs.

Which I don't understand, seeing as how you don't want to be an aerospace engineer anymore (psst - moron: not all airplanes deliver bombs).

...and you now want to be poli sci major, effectively wasting your parents' precious resources.

In the meanwhile, the queer half of you seems to be winning the battle.

Even with all of that, you're developing into quite the DU Stalinist.

Who has a revolving portfolio of jobs.

But you finally lucked into union monkey status.

My advice is this:

Drop the poli sci crap, quit wasting your parents' dough, make your butt an exit only, and leave DU. You're an articulate kid. Don't blow it.

(don't blow HIM, either)

[Ralph Wiggum]

BannedFromDU, love your posts my friend.  But you sold me with "The Mike Trout" of bouncies. Nicely done!

[BannedFromDU]

BannedFromDU, love your posts my friend.  But you sold me with "The Mike Trout" of bouncies. Nicely done!

     

[Carl]

Who has a revolving portfolio of jobs.

Yet another new job and it is creating a problem for his drug use.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027115619
Star Member F4lconF16 (3,215 posts)

I really like my new job. But the employment process is actually pretty terrifying.
I just switched jobs this week, and I'm working for a much (much) smaller company. There's a total lack of privacy. Was it ever not like this? I don't know--I've only been in the work force a few years.

First, there's drug testing. That's one of the biggest legal ways to discriminate among not just lines of class, but of color. I'm lucky that this company isn't going to mind if I don't pass the test--it helps to be in a legalized state. But I have to do it because a large corporation that our company is associated with has decided anyone who's connected with it needs to be screened. And it sucks to have that go on record like there's anything wrong with it.

So there's that, and then there's the thing I was forced to sign for my background check. I didn't want to in the slightest. Read it, really:

I have carefully read and understand this Candidate Disclosure, Authorization & Consent for the Procurement of Consumer Reports form and the attached summary of rights under the Fair Credit Reporting Act.

By my signature below, I consent to the release of consumer reports and investigative consumer reports prepared by a consumer reporting agency, such as --------, to the Company and its designated representatives and agents.

I understand that if the Company hires me, my consent will apply, and the Company may obtain reports, throughout my employment.

I also understand that information contained in my job application or otherwise disclosed by me before or during my employment, if any, may be used for the purpose of obtaining consumer reports and/or investigative consumer reports.

By my signature below, I authorize law enforcement agencies, learning institutions (including public and private schools and universities), information service bureaus, credit bureaus, record/data repositories, courts (federal, state and local), motor vehicle records agencies, my past or present employers, the military, and other individuals and sources to furnish any and all information on me that is requested by the consumer reporting agency.

By my signature below, I certify the information I provided on this form is true and correct and will be valid for any reports that may be requested by or on behalf of the Company.

Yeah. ****in' terrifying.

and other individuals and sources to furnish any and all information on me that is requested by the consumer reporting agency.

They can know anything about me from anyone. And I just had to agree to that and them being able to do that not just once, but throughout the entire time I'm with this company.

[delilahmused]

F4lconF16 (3,213 posts)

50. Your arrogance is incredible.

You pretend you know rape, that you understand rape. You use some statistics to show us fools why we're so stupid to be opposed to carrying a gun to protect yourself from assault, and you think you've made some kind of strong statement explaining that.

Let me be the first to tell you:

YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND A DAMN THING ABOUT RAPE.

You clearly like statistics, so let's use some:

82% of sexual assaults were perpetrated by a non-stranger.
47% of rapists are a friend or acquaintance.
25% are an intimate.
5% are a relative.

Still doesn't mean you can't shoot the bastard.

Cindie

[RayRaytheSBS]

Still doesn't mean you can't shoot the bastard.

Cindie

Indeed, hi5 given. That is what a REAL woman would do to defend herself.  Not piss and crap on her assailant.