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Ichingcarpenter (34,271 posts)

A mathematician may have uncovered widespread election fraud, and Kansas is trying to silence her

Last edited Fri Aug 7, 2015, 11:07 AM - Edit history (1)
Kansas loves them some voter fraud hysteria. From going to the Supreme Court to try and make doubly-sure that non-citizens can’t vote in their elections to setting up a voter fraud website where citizens can report every kind of voter fraud except the kinds that have actually happened in the state, Kansas is on the forefront of voter fraud readiness and protection.

Except, perhaps, when it comes to the machines they use to record their votes.

According to the Wichita Eagle, Wichita State mathematician Beth Clarkson has found irregularities in election returns from Sedgwick County, along with other counties throughout the United States, but has faced stiff opposition from the state in trying to confirm whether the irregularities are fraud or other, less-nefarious anomalies.

Analyzing election returns at a precinct level, Clarkson found that candidate support was correlated, to a statistically significant degree, with the size of the precinct. In Republican primaries, the bias has been toward the establishment candidates over tea partiers. In general elections, it has favored Republican candidates over Democrats, even when the demographics of the precincts in question suggested that the opposite should have been true.

Clarkson’s interest in election returns was piqued by a 2012 paper released by analysts Francois Choquette and James Johnson showing the same pattern of election returns, which favor establishment Republican candidates in primaries and general elections. The irregularities are isolated to precincts that use “Central Tabulator” voting machines — machines that have previously been shown to be vulnerable to hacking. The effects are significant and widespread: According to their analysis, Mitt Romney could have received over a million extra votes in the 2012 Republican primary, mostly coming at the expense of Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich. President Obama also ceded significant votes to John McCain due to this irregularity, as well.

You can read the paper in full here.

http://americablog.com/2015/08/mathematician-actual-voter-fraud-kansas-republicans.html



In 2002 in Comal County in Central Texas 3 Republican candidates each won with exactly 18,181 votes. What do you think the odds are for that? Would you trust a lottery that hit the same numbers 3 weeks in a row? It gets worse. Two more Republicans in nearby states also won with exactly 18,181 votes. All five on the same type of ES&S voting machines.
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/htdocs/dcforum/DCForumID12/114.html Convert the numbers to the alphabet: 18181 18181 18181 ahaha ahaha ahaha - were they laughing at us? The voting machine company Diebold also uses a voting software called GEMS version 1.81.81. More laughter? Since brothers Bob and Todd Urosevich, founded ES&S and then Bob then went to run Diebold, perhaps both companies share a sense of humor. Diebold and ES&S, together, count about 80 percent of the votes in the United States.


You remember Florida in 2000? Remember how Gore conceded for a minute? Did you know that the computerized voting machines in just one Florida county gave Gore a NEGATIVE 16,000 votes and mistakenly added 4,000 votes to Bush's totals thus giving Bush an extra 20,000 fake votes. That was why CBS called the election for Bush and was one of the reasons Gore thought he'd lost. http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/3/2004/834

In Abilene, Texas the poll workers became suspicious of a lopsided vote that gave a landslide victory to a Republican, When it was checked they found the Democrat actually won by a large margin. (How many places is it never checked?) The voting machine company blamed a supposedly defective chip. When I have a defective chip my computer just stops working instead of giving me fake results.

http://www.newsgarden.org/columns/alllietrust.shtml


from the book The Dragons of Eden by Carl Sagan


"In time of rapid social change there are bound to be conspiracies, both by those in favor of change and by those defending the status quo. The latter more than the former in recent American political history. Detecting conspiracies when there are no conspiracies is a symptom of paranoia; detecting them when they exist is a sign of menial health. An acquaintance of mine says, "in America today, if you're not a little paranoid you're out of your mind."

page 190

malaise (131,566 posts)

1. Bradblog has been exposing this for over a decade

Voting machines are designed to rig elections for ReTHUGs.

The voting machines demanded by dems after 2000.


BTW -- BradBlog was the haunt fo convicted terrorist bomber Brett Kimberlin who also conducted lawfare and SWATted conservatives who wrote about his criminal activities.

billhicks76 (2,753 posts)

64. Democrats Idiots For Not Aggressively Confronting This

Thanks to the conspiracy label frightened wing of spineless coincidence theorist Democrats. Bradblog is where real democrats debate. No room for the cowardly. The facts are on our side for those who haven't noticed.

^ This is why Proglodytes are so comfortable with illegals voting. They feel entitled to cheat to even the odds.

valerief (46,112 posts)

67. Except the rights of the people have been dissolved. We're merely human resources

for the .01% to chew up and spit out.

^ Believes the rights of the people have been stolen

Will permanently ignore anyone who is pro-2nd Amendment

Godhumor (3,672 posts)

7. "Patriot Bev Harris"? Really?

There are quite a few of us who remember her history here and would disagree with that vehemently.

Godhumor (3,672 posts)

50. Here's the official DU stance on Bev Harris from years back

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x108750

Not addressed here is when she and other advocates slandered Andy accusing him of faking the illness that eventually killed him. They went so far as to set up and publicize a website dedicated solely to besmirching his medical fight and never apologized after he passed.

A lot of us old timers have zero patience in seeing her name here in any context.

Kind of a low post count for such a long memory.

HassleCat (1,322 posts)

29. We've known this for years

Remember when the exit polls were mysteriously wrong? But only wrong in precincts where Diebold machines were at work? Meanwhile, they try to distract us with voter DI laws and other means of keeping Democrats away from the polls.

moondust (10,256 posts)

35. I've had suspicions for decades.

Going back at least to Reagan's 49-state landslide in 1984, maybe further. From rigging the machines to simply calling in the wrong numbers to the central tabulators, there would seem to be several approaches for corrupt politicos to place their operatives in key positions and produce their desired outcome. I could see Nixon's, Reagan's, and the BFEE's criminal operatives doing something like that. Just look at all the anti-democratic gerrymandering and voter suppression the GOP is responsible for. As Stalin once said, "The people who count the votes decide everything."

Disclaimer: I can't prove anything.

KamaAina (64,809 posts)

40. No small planes, Beth

lostnfound (9,172 posts)

41. I stayed up all night in 2004; personally downloaded & analyzed

The numbers being reports during the night and discovered a certain flat percentage distortion appearing on certain counties correlated with the type of central tabulator software wing used in those counties.
I compared bubble charts for 2000 and 2004, and showed an inexplicable growth in ratios of republican votes, in spite of large Democratic voter registration drives that had occurred in between.

One had to conclude that either
1) a bunch of 2000 Gore voters decided to vote for Bush in 2004
OR
2) Republicans became much more motivated to go vote in 2004 than in 2000, compared to less motivated Democrats,
OR
3) there was voting tabulation fraud in certain counties, correlated by machine type

SomeGuyInEagan (1,437 posts)

68. My senator, Al Frankin ...

... Used to regularly dismiss any talk of hacking or mass voter fraud when he had his Air America show. Loved the show, love him as a senator, but the speed with which he dismissed and outright ridiculed any discussion always struck me as odd. Regardless of who brought it up in discussion.

Yeah, that was one of the missed opportunities in 2009.

Franken was only elected because they kept counting the votes til they got one they liked then quit.

pansypoo53219 (11,079 posts)

47. WHAT I ALWAYS SAY. its the VOTE COUNTERS is where the fraud is + usually

COMMITTED BY THE RITE!

underthematrix (1,093 posts)

51. I tweeted out immediately following the 2010 and 2012 elections that 30% of

GOP House and Senate members obtained their seats through election fraud. How about that.

Unknown Beatle (1,659 posts)

58. Document after document,

TV specials, eyewitnesses, and computer experts all agree that republicans are stealing elections using voting machines, with facts, no less, yet nothing is being done to address the problem.

This should be on the top of the list to right a tilting ship, a ship that is tilting to the right, btw, but nary a peep from the MSM.

IHateTheGOP (344 posts)

61. This is some serious ****ing shit people. Where the hell is the Justice Department?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027052614

[GOBUCKS]

Poor addled DUmmy grasswipe Judy Smith, up there in suburban Portland almost exposed this whole Republican conspiracy:

Fri Aug 7, 2015, 08:12 PM
grasswire (43,448 posts)
57. once more for the record, here is what I found in 2000

Posted here on DU a couple of times since then:

In 2004, I posted the following:

It's complicated; please follow along.

Since 2000, I've been sitting on something I stumbled over on the net. I was not able to take the research further, because doing so requires knowledge about stock sales and transfers, corporate buyouts, etc., and I have no expertise in that.
In 2000, this story sounded like something from the blue -- like the craziest of conspiracy theories. Now, after Ohio and after the AG mess has ripped the curtain off the Mayberry Macchiavellis, do you think it is far fetched? Impossible?

................

In late 1997, a Texas corporation that had previously consisted of a solid business in auto parts outlets and industrial supplies began to suddenly buy up companies related to voting machines and election services. The company was Tyler Corporation and the CEO was William Oates, founder of Business Resources Corporation and CEO of Business Records Corporation, which he also started.

Blah, blah, blah...

Here's where it gets even more interesting. After buying an enormous share of the elections business starting in late 1997 and installing Oates (an elections old hand) as CEO, this previous autoparts business-now elections services corporation Tyler started dumping this elections segment of its holdings in December 2000, post election. Oates left then. I've lost my notes on the stock sales, but I was following some records of insider trading.

Blah, blah, tinfoil blah...

Is there a story here? Some questions beg to be answered. Why did Fred Meyer leave Tyler in 1997? Did he remain a de facto force? Was Oates hand-picked by Meyer?

Blah, blah, blah...

I have no background in mergers, acquisitions, the corporate world or the stock market. Some of these corporations have changed names, been bought out, bought up, stopped and re-started, merged, etc. There probably are a lot of ways to track more information that I'm just not familiar with. It is true that things are not always what they seem (skim milk masquerades as cream) but the trail begs following.

Luckily for the repuke election thieves, right at the verge of proving their crimes, poor addled grasswipe was sidetracked by her investigation into dear Andy's death at the hands of the nicest person one could ever hope to meet.

[Big Dog]

Ichingcarpenter (34,271 posts)

A mathematician may have uncovered widespread election fraud, and Kansas is trying to silence her

I stopped right here:

According to the Wichita Eagle, Wichita State mathematician Beth Clarkson has found irregularities in election returns from Sedgwick County

Sedgwick County is a Democrat county. Wichita is a Democrat city. Sedgwick County Election Commissioner Tabitha Lehman is a registered Democrat.

If systematic election fraud is going on in Sedgwick County, then it is Democrat fraud.

[Wineslob]

Of course to DUmmies if the elections aren't 100% Dem. it HAS to fraud.

 

[Karin]

she and other advocates slandered Andy accusing him of faking the illness that eventually killed him.

I thought Frank killed Andy. 

[ChuckJ]

Ain't it just a bit early for the 'they stole the election' camp fires? They must really be scared this time. Too bad Wee Willie Piss is not around to tell them to bank.on.it.

[GOBUCKS]

I thought Frank killed Andy.

The DUmp thinks coach killed the sodomite by sabotaging his PayPal account and delaying his treatment.

Actually, he used a huge socket wrench.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

The DUmp thinks coach killed the sodomite by sabotaging his PayPal account and delaying his treatment.

Actually, he used a huge socket wrench.

In the Conservatory.

[delilahmused]

Voter ID would prevent almost all voting fraud.

Cindie

[DumbAss Tanker]

Did TIA get a sex-change operation?  Like his incredible statistical constructions, hers seems to be based on overlooking fundamentals, in this case "So we know what the demographics are, but who actually showed up to vote?"

[98ZJUSMC]

Ain't it just a bit early for the 'they stole the election' camp fires?

It never ends.

They must really be scared this time. Too bad Wee Willie Piss is not around to tell them to bank.on.it.

There can be no other reason for the loss of their superior (just ask them!) Socialists.

underthematrix (1,093 posts)

51. I tweeted out immediately following the 2010 and 2012 elections that 30% of

GOP House and Senate members obtained their seats through election fraud. How about that.

Well, aren't you Mommy's special little girl.

moondust (10,256 posts)

35. I've had suspicions for decades.

Going back at least to Reagan's 49-state landslide in 1984, maybe further. From rigging the machines to simply calling in the wrong numbers to the central tabulators, there would seem to be several approaches for corrupt politicos to place their operatives in key positions and produce their desired outcome. I could see Nixon's, Reagan's, and the BFEE's criminal operatives doing something like that. Just look at all the anti-democratic gerrymandering and voter suppression the GOP is responsible for. As Stalin once said, "The people who count the votes decide everything."

It's everywhere. eLeBiNty!!!11

Disclaimer: I can't prove anything.

So, no key, then?

.01%

My, how that number keeps getting smaller and smaller..............

[miskie]

This is for you, DUmmies..

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urglg3WimHA[/youtube]

[I_B_Perky]

Hmmm.... this is the earliest the dummies have pulled out the election fraud meme. Could it be that we are smelling dummie desperation?

I know the MSM is desperate. There was the fact check crap in the local liberal rag about the debate.* The one that got me was on Jeb Bush. He said something like he created X number of jobs and left the state better than when it was when he got elected. Factually true. According to them, Jeb's last year in office was 2006. Boy they spun that. Talking about the housing boom, etc. Then they said by 2009 the state had lost y number of jobs. Long after Jeb was gone. Basically said he was a liar.

The one I liked best, it was about a month ago, was Cruz's statement that x number of people were no longer in the workforce. Well they went ballistic and beat him over the head for lying until his campaign emailed them and said that the statistics he was using were from the federal government.  Factually true! Boy that put them in a bind. Obama is lying if it isn't true, Cruz was telling the truth if it was.

What to do, what to do, said the biased fact checkers? Well they parsed the figures, from the federal obama government, and came up with a way to make it seem like Cruz was lying.


The MSM is running scared. They see a GOP in the whitehouse next election. Personally I hope it is a landslide.

*I find the fact check humorous. The MSM came up with it because they were accused, rightly, of being biased. So they get the same biased idiots to do the fact checking. Riiiight.  Can't make this shit up.