Another Balck man killed by Police. part 2

[dutch508]

Oh... never mind.

IDemo (15,220 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141106994

No Charges in Death of Man Who Told Cops He Couldn't Breathe
Source: ABC News

A grand jury has declined to indict Louisiana police officers who held a man down, with officers at on top of him, while he said, "I can't breathe."

The Advertiser (http://bit.ly/1eK1DxA ) also quotes the FBI as saying it did not find anything the Justice Department's Civil Rights Unit could prosecute.

Thirty-year-old Robert Minjarez Jr. was declared dead five days after his arrest by Carencro and Scott police and Lafayette Parish sheriff's deputies in March 2014.

The coroner's report says the main cause of death was "compressional asphyxia due to face-down physical restraint by law enforcement officers."

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/charges-death-man-told-cops-breathe-31433305

 

valerief (44,936 posts)
1. Of course. Police brutality is rewarded, not punished, in America. nt

 

BlueJazz (22,339 posts)
3. I can understand the verdict being that the coroner's report was in favor of the police.

"The coroner's report says the main cause of death was "compressional asphyxia due to face-down physical restraint by law enforcement officers."

 

Catherine Vincent (32,481 posts)
8. Oh my God. Those motherfvckers didn't give a damn about this man.  I guess since there's no video of this man's murder, it won't get the attention of the mainstream media.

 

Lurks Often (4,079 posts)
12. The ABC link is short on details, the local news link is far more informative

Local link: http://www.theadvertiser.com/story/news/2015/05/28/officers-indicted-restrained-mans-death/28075855/

I'm not saying I'm ok with the outcome, but after reading the local news story I have a better idea as to why the grand jury refused to bring charges against the officers. The bold is mine

"The Lafayette Parish coroner's report listed the cause of death as "compressional asphyxia due to face-down physical restraint by law enforcement officers with contribution of rhabdomyolysis and cocaine toxicity."

The coroner's report notes that the day before the fatal encounter, on March 1, 2014, police responded to a complaint that Minjarez was "reportedly agitated, naked and had destroyed a residence." He was treated at a hospital, tested positive for cocaine and benzodiazepine and had symptoms consistent with rhabdomyolysis. He left against medical advice before seeing the doctor.

We don't what was said in the grand jury or the FBI report, but reading between the lines and making an educated guess, the grand jury refused to bring charges because Minjarez was resisting arrest and his pre-existing medical issues were a significant contributor to his death

It could be the fact he died FIVE DAYS after his arrest.

Lurks Often (4,079 posts)
22. Lots and lots of info missing

They didn't believe him? He continued to resist? Being under the influence of cocaine and other substances, according to the autopsy, prevented him from reacting in a rational manner?

Based on the local article, we know it the LA State police conducted the investigation, the FBI also conducted an investigation, that it went to a grand jury and that there was video of the incident.

What we don't know is what was presented to the grand jury and how hard the prosecutor tried to get a conviction, things we'll probably never know.

I doubt they intended to kill him, his death was a combination of the drugs in system, the pre-existing medical condition based on the medical report from the day before, the position he was in and the police on top of him trying to get him cuffed.

Based on my admittedly limited law enforcement training (Army military police, no garrison duty), sometimes things just don't go the way they are supposed. Getting cuffs on someone and getting them to stop resisting was hard enough in training, I can certainly imagine it's a lot harder in the real world. It definitely isn't like TV. 

 

wait a second... MP school but no garrison duty? What did this hero do? get booted out after AIT?

TexasMommaWithAHat (1,370 posts)
29. I suspect cops hear accusations like "I can't breathe" and

"you're hurting me" all the time. Good cop, bad cop, evil cop....I'm sure they're used to it and don't take it seriously. It's just another way to protest an arrest.

Imo, they need better training re high risk detainees. 

 

TexasMommaWithAHat (1,370 posts)
30. It's part of resisting arrest!

"You're hurting me!"

"I can't breathe!"

"You're twisting my arm you ****er!"

These kinds of protests are normal, whether or not the person resisting arrest is hurt, which is why LE doesn't take these protests seriously.

Imo, they need more training so they can identify at risk persons. Very obese? On drugs? These are clearly identifiable, are they not?

AND another example of how Police Brutality in teh USA is just another made up lie the leftist spew to demonize the country.

  ow ow ow.... I can't breath...

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

rhabdomyolysis is the mostly likely cause of death. It'll kill a healthy man pretty easily. A combative coke doesn't stand a chance. He'd've been dead in less than a week.

[GOBUCKS]

Robert Minjarez Jr., 30, died five days after officers .. arrested him on March 2, 2014

Sounds like an average lifespan for a junkie on coke and benzos.

[SVPete]

I'd never heard of that medical condition so I nadin'ed it:

Rhabdomyolysis
WebMD

Rhabdomyolysis is a serious syndrome due to a direct or indirect muscle injury. It results from the death of muscle fibers and release of their contents into the bloodstream. This can lead to complications such as renal (kidney) failure. This occurs when the kidneys cannot remove waste and concentrated urine. In rare cases, rhabdomyolysis can even cause death. However, prompt treatment often brings a good outcome. Here's what you need to know about rhabdomyolysis.

Rhabdomyolysis Causes
There are many causes of rhabdomyolysis. The most common causes include:

The use of alcohol or illegal drugs such as heroine, cocaine or amphetamines

Extreme muscle strain, especially in someone who is an untrained athlete. This can happen in elite athletes too, however. And it can be more dangerous if there is more muscle mass to break down.
...
The use of medications such as antipsychotics or statins, especially when given in high doses

I'd heard of the extreme-athletics cause, without the condition being mentioned by name. I don't think being into extreme physical fitness was this dude's problem, IYKWIM.

[obumazombie]

This reminds me, why is cousin nadin not available to the Cave 24/7 to consult about her medic and journo and photog expertise ?

We should not have to nadin these subjects.

We should demand that coach franksolich use nepotism to force his cousin to provide these services.

[RayRaytheSBS]

I'd never heard of that medical condition so I nadin'ed it:

Rhabdomyolysis
WebMD
I'd heard of the extreme-athletics cause, without the condition being mentioned by name. I don't think being into extreme physical fitness was this dude's problem, IYKWIM.

Rhabdo happens when your muscle breaks down and large chunks of muscle protein flood your blood and clog your kidneys, similar to a oil filter clogging in a car. Doing a lot of physical activity in a short period of time and not resting will cause it.

It hurts immensely. I'm amazed he could move if he had rhabdo. Of course, it helps he was self-medicating.